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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:16 PM
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From a source inside News Corp: "Holy ****. Oh man. Those shells are landing closer and closer. "
Andy Coulson became the Conservative Party's director of communications from July 9, 2007 until 2010. Then he became Director of Communications for Prime Minister David Cameron from May, 2010 until he resigned under pressure on January 21, 2011. ----Link



Meanwhile, what was going on over in the US during this approximate time period?


FOX News' Tony Snow Among Possible White House Spokesman Candidates, April 19, 2006



White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, Tuesday, May 16, 2006, fields questions during his first briefing after replacing Scott McClellan. White House photo by Paul Morse Link




White House photo by Eric Draper

President Bush discussed his policies with conservative radio hosts last month at the White House, including, from left, Mike Gallagher, Neal Boortz, Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Michael Medved.


NYT
By JIM RUTENBERG
October 17, 2006


WASHINGTON, Oct. 16 — On an overcast Friday morning last month, White House aides ushered an influential group of conservative radio hosts into the Oval Office for a private audience with the president.

For an hour and a half, Mr. Bush discussed his case for the war in Iraq, his immigration proposals and even the personality of his Scottish terrier Barney, who scratched on the door during the session until the president relented and let him into the office, according to several hosts who attended.

The meeting, which was not announced on the president’s public schedule, was part of an intensive Republican Party campaign to reclaim and re-energize a crucial army of supporters.... And Mr. Bush granted an on-camera interview to Bill O’Reilly of the Fox News Channel. The first of three parts ran Monday night.

Still, officials said, the meeting with the radio hosts gave Mr. Bush a chance to speak intimately with a group that reaches an overwhelmingly Republican audience of 30 million people per week.

.....(Old DU thread)







Now 3.25 years since the NYT exposed Pentagon's domestic TV propaganda program using retired generals

MESSAGE MACHINE; Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon's Hidden Hand, April 20, 2008



James Murdoch Faces Scrutiny From U.K. Lawmakers as Rebekah Brooks Resigns

By Robert Hutton and Thomas Penny - Jul 15, 2011 11:43 AM ET


U.K. lawmakers switched their focus to James Murdoch after Rebekah Brooks resigned as chief executive officer of News Corp. (NWSA)’s British publishing division amid the scandal over phone hacking at a tabloid she edited.

Since July 4, when the Guardian newspaper reported that the News of the World had hacked the mobile phone of a murdered schoolgirl and deleted messages, politicians of all sides have abandoned the practice of the past three decades and attacked Rupert Murdoch and his newspapers. Yesterday, in the face of a formal summons, Murdoch and his son were forced to back down and agree to give evidence to a Parliamentary committee on July 19.

Their decisions to close down the News of the World, drop a bid to take full control of British Sky Broadcasting Group Plc (BSY) and now accept Brooks’s resignation have done little to satisfy opposition Labour Party lawmakers. Some want to ask James Murdoch, who is deputy chief operating officer of New York-based News Corp., about his approval of out-of-court settlements that included non-disclosure agreements.

“It’s now about the Murdochs,” said Chris Bryant, a Labour lawmaker who called the emergency debate on the News of the World held on July 6. “James Murdoch has got to answer questions about their hush money strategy. Did the board agree to it?”

.....



Murdoch lieutenant Les Hinton quits over scandal (Wall Street Journal publisher/Dow Jones CEO)


Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:12pm EDT

(Reuters) - Les Hinton, the top executive of Rupert Murdoch's Dow Jones & Co, resigned on Friday after becoming a target of criticism for the phone-hacking scandal that occurred when he oversaw News Corp's British newspapers.

"I have watched with sorrow from New York as the News of the World story has unfolded," Hinton, who also served as publisher of the Wall Street Journal, wrote in his resignation letter.
"That I was ignorant of what apparently happened is irrelevant and in the circumstances I feel it is proper for me to resign from News Corp, and apologize to those hurt by the actions of the News of the World," he added.

News Corp, parent of Dow Jones, has been at the center of a storm over a voicemail hacking scandal at its tabloid News of the World.
Another top Murdoch confidante, Rebekah Brooks, who worked under Hinton when she was News of the World's editor, also resigned earlier on Friday.

Hinton, 67, has worked alongside Murdoch for more than five decades, rising through the ranks until he was tapped to run News International in 1995, and later Dow Jones after News Corp bought the publisher of the Wall Street Journal.

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Sure. Mr. Hinton. You've been with Rupert Murdoch for more than 50 years, and you knew nothing about it.




Michael Wolff is the biographer of Rupert Mudoch and author of The Man Who Owns the News, written in 2008.



July 15, 2011, approximately 5:05 pm:

From Randi Rhodes' twitter feed:

MichaelWolffNYC Michael Wolff
by randiradio
From a source inside News Corp: "Holy shit. Oh man. Those shells are landing closer and closer. "
15 minutes ago






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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:19 PM
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1. Yes, yes they are
INCOMING!!!!!

(Now push James out of the foxhole... I suspect that's coming)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 01:50 PM
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24. Wolff says if he were a betting man
he'd bet that James will be indicted. He has no doubt that Brooks will be indicted and if she's heading for prison so is Hinton.
:popcorn:
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:22 PM
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2. K and R for all the Steve Doocy fans
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Oh there is one that will have an issue finding a job
worst case scenario, He is just a water carrier... but not too bright
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:27 PM
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5. He used to be the local news goofy weatherman here in DC
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:26 PM
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4. It's only a matter of time before we find out a politician here was hacked
If they did it in UK, there's no reason why they wouldn't do it here too.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:31 PM
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7. A continuation of Watergate
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 01:57 PM
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25. It never actually ended.
It is still going on to this day. That would be my guess.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:43 PM
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8. Remember the hacked judicial nomination memos in Senate Dems' offices?
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 06:45 PM by seafan
Senate Inquiry Into Memos That Went Astray Nears End


By NEIL A. LEWIS
January 23, 2004


WASHINGTON, Jan. 22 — The Senate's sergeant-at-arms said on Thursday that he was nearing an end to an investigation into how several confidential memorandums written by Democratic staff aides about dealing with judicial nominations ended up in the hands of Republican staff members.

The investigation by the office of the sergeant-at-arms, William Pickle, was undertaken last November after parts of the memorandums appeared in news accounts in The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Times and a column by Robert Novak.

Some of the memorandums from the offices of Senators Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts and Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, both Democrats, discussed strategy and tactics on dealing with President Bush's judicial nominees.

.....

After the Democrats complained that their confidential memorandums were being stolen and distributed to conservative news outlets, Mr. Pickle began an investigation on Nov. 19. He had committee computers seized and used Secret Service agents and a computer expert from General Dynamics to determine whether and how the Democrats' computer files were hacked into as part of a possible improper political operation.

.....




In light of what is unfolding now at lightning speed, it looks like the horses are out the barn and have been for quite some time.


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:25 AM
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13. Excellent post
I remember lots of DUers talking about the Snow job.
Murdoch and ReTHUGS worked together.
http://gawker.com/5814150/
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:31 AM
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15. go read the guardian's blog - 12:12 post
read what the second law firm found among the emails.

Then remember the "millions of erased emails" from the archives. I think Rebekah's comments about things coming out in the next year that will make it clear to the NoTW staff as to why the paper had to be closed lies within those emails.

KaBoom when we learn the contents.

Btw - will be tied up for much of the day - if there is anything big that breaks that you see, could you let me know (by pm - or respond to it here and I'll check 'recent posts'.) Thanks - and have a great, great day!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 08:31 AM
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16. Done
Back at you - enjoy the day :hi:
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 05:51 PM
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33. From that post:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/16/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch?commentpage=4#start-of-comments#block-7
News International requested a return of the email file from the law firm earlier this year and passed it to another firm, Hickman and Rose Solictors who in turn hired a former head of the Crown Prosecution Service, Lord Macdonald of Glaven, to provide a report.

Lord Macdonald told the Telegraph he had found evidence in the file of "indirect hacking", breaches of national security and evidence of serious crime. He said he advised News International to go to the police "and they did".

On Friday Murdoch told the Wall Street Journal the law firm had made a "major mistake" in underestimating the scope of the problem.

Harbottle & Lewis's managing partner, Glen Atchison told the paper: "We are unable to comment substantively at this time as the matters raised are the subject of an ongoing investigation by the Metropolitan Police. Moreover, it is not our usual practice to comment on our clients' affairs or advice which we may or may not have provided."
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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 01:26 PM
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22. Any early on Murdoch /Abramoff connections ?
Edited on Sat Jul-16-11 01:27 PM by Selena Harris
I seem to recall some older DU posts here talking about Abramoff having a LOT of IT clients and repped for some firms that put communications systems in the White House.

Anybody remember this? leveymg are you out there? Didn't you do some posts on Abranmoff and his IT friends some years back?
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 12:06 AM
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37. There are more than 5 million emails "missing" from 2003-2007 in the Bush White House
Edited on Sun Jul-17-11 12:10 AM by seafan
Murdoch and Abramoff? Interesting question. Apparently this is on Martin Bashir's mind as well:

July 14, 2011

Appearing on Thursday's NBC Today, MSNBC host Martin Bashir shared his thoughts on the tabloid phone hacking scandal in Britain and proclaimed that News Corporation owner Rupert Murdoch was "...a combination of Jack Abramoff, the lobbyist, and someone like James 'Whitey' Bulger, the mobster."
Link


It's a good bet there are many people looking for these connections.


Here are some of the news items from 2007. We've still got our own "missing White House email" scandal on this side of the pond:


Waxman Reveals New Evidence Showing White House Use Of Political E-mail Accounts

By Faiz Shakir on Mar 29, 2007 at 4:45 pm
ThinkProgress


U.S. News reported recently that several White House aides “said that they stopped using the White House system except for purely professional correspondence. … ‘We knew E-mails could be subpoenaed,’” said one aide.

In a new letter to White House counsel Fred Fielding, House Government and Oversight Committee Chairman Henry Waxman reveals new e-mail communications that provide further evidence that White House employees were trying to circumvent the archives system: (linked pdf not available, but clips are below)

New Scott Jennings E-Mails. Scott Jennings, the deputy director of political affairs in the White House, and his assistant used “gwb43.com” e-mail accounts to communicate with the General Services Administration about a partisan briefing that Mr. Jennings gave to political appointees at GSA on January 26, 2007. When Mr. Jennings’s assistant emailed the PowerPoint presentation to GSA, she wrote: “It is a close hold and we’re not supposed to be emailing it around.”

New Job Appointment E-Mails. Mr. Jennings also appears to have used his “gwb43.com” account to recruit applicants for official government positions through the “Kentucky Republican Voice,” an internet site that describes itself as “the best source for Kentucky Republican grassroots information.” One posting from May 2005 advertised 17 vacancies on assorted presidential boards and commissions. A second posting from May 2006 sought applicants for various boards within the Small Business Administration. In each case, these postings encouraged applicants to contact Mr. Jennings at his “gwb43.com” address.

New Abramoff E-Mails. Susan Ralston, who was Karl Rove’s executive assistant, invited two lobbyists working for Jack Abramoff to use her RNC e-mail account to avoid “security issues” with the White House e-mail system, writing: “I now have an RNC blackbeny (sic) which you can use to e-mail me at any time. No security issues like my WH email.” Ms. Ralston similarly wrote Mr. Abramoff: “I know have an RNC laptop at the office for political use. I can access my AOL email when necessary so if you need to send me something that I need to read, you can send to my AOL email and then call or page me to check it.”


.....



CREW Asks for House Investigation into White House Violations of Presidential Records Act, March 15, 2007


Entire CREW press release here, due to high site traffic, April 12, 2007



I still believe Susan Ralston is a critical component to much of this. She worked for Jack Abramoff before sliding over to Rove's office.


Subpoena SUSAN B. RALSTON. She holds the key to WH e-mail systems, election night '04 and Abramoff., March 26, 2007



Election Night 2004: Karl Rove and right-hand assistant Susan Ralston

(Hat tip to DUer bleever)



Upwards of 5 million "missing" emails in the Bush II White House between March, 2003 and October, 2005...


Bet there are a lot of prosecutable actions in those.


Maybe those emails have something in common with these-- if they do, it will be found. Of that I am sure:


News of the World phone hacking: email evidence 'deleted', 9:32PM BST 08 Jul 2011




And now, new GOP governors (Rick Scott in particular in FL) are intentionally circumventing government email accounts to avoid accountability for whatever it is they are doing behind closed doors. This has got to stop.







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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:41 AM
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39. Mike Connell and the WH servers-Murdoch connection?
Thank you for the reply Seafan...Do you recall the year NeoCon IT whiz kid Connell died in that plane crash-on the eve of testimony regarding the hijinks in Ohio elections ? Wasn't he tasked with setting up the IT system in Congress? It would be interesting to note if Murdoch ever used Connell's companies .
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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:55 AM
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40. FLS=DCI,Rove ,and McConnelll
Lagniappe: Connell, Rove and the GOP Boys, ...www.huffingtonpost.com/.../norm-coleman-website-is-s_n_155653... - Cached“Connell, Rove and the GOP Boys, Positioned for McCain? ... also created and ran the 2004 George Bush and Ken Blackwell websites as ..... claimed by FHLS ...

VELVETREVOLUTION.US : Protect Elections, Prosecute Rovewww.velvetrevolution.us/prosecute_rove/ - CachedSimilar
Mr. Connell, the GOP's top computer expert, was subpoenaed based on a September 19th court ..... Connell, Rove and the GOP Boys, Positioned for McCain? ...

The website for the FLS-DCI site contained a ststement of endorsement from Rove,himself. One of the founders of the firm FLS,was also Mike Connell's partner in founding his(Connell's) firm.
.
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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 11:05 AM
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41. The background on Gov Tech and FLS-DCI
GovTech Solutions - Mike Connell Woman-owned small business & $28 ...GovTech Solutions - Mike Connell .Woman-owned small business & $28 million BushCo Connection.
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all...
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:16 PM
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42. Here are more quite useful links. Thanks for caring about this, Selena Harris.
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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:37 PM
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43. AT&T connection?
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 12:38 PM by Selena Harris
Seafan, can you find a link to any article referring to Murdoch owning shares in AT$T?

FLS-DCI ,the GOP go-to PR firm,was involved in astro-turfing,fake grass roots campaigns. AT&T was one of their biggest clients.FLS was responsible for the robocallings in many a GOP campaign ,including grooming and promoting Sarah Palin.
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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:44 PM
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44. This fits in with the 2006 timeline of your thread
http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2006/nf2...

President George W. Bush has bestowed on his intelligence czar, John Negroponte, broad authority, in the name of national security, to excuse publicly traded companies from their usual accounting and securities-disclosure obligations. Notice of the development came in a brief entry in the Federal Register, dated May 5, 2006, that was opaque to the untrained eye.
Advertisement

Unbeknownst to almost all of Washington and the financial world, Bush and every other President since Jimmy Carter have had the authority to exempt companies working on certain top-secret defense projects from portions of the 1934 Securities Exchange Act. Administration officials told BusinessWeek that they believe this is the first time a President has ever delegated the authority to someone outside the Oval Office. It couldn't be immediately determined whether any company has received a waiver under this provision.

The timing of Bush's move is intriguing. On the same day the President signed the memo, Porter Goss resigned as director of the Central Intelligence Agency amid criticism of ineffectiveness and poor morale at the agency. Only six days later, on May 11, USA Today reported that the National Security Agency had obtained millions of calling records of ordinary citizens provided by three major U.S. phone companies. Negroponte oversees both the CIA and NSA in his role as the administration's top intelligence official.

...

William McLucas, the Securities & Exchange Commission's former enforcement chief, suggested that the ability to conceal financial information in the name of national security could lead some companies "to play fast and loose with their numbers." McLucas, a partner at the law firm Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale & Dorr in Washington, added: "It could be that you have a bunch of books and records out there that no one knows about."


NOTE: Didn't AT&T have that server on the west coast that was tapping domestic calls?My memory is fuzzy on that.Apologies if I am mistaken.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 01:19 PM
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47. 'Yes' to your note at the end of your post re the ATT secret switching room in SanFran, etc
Remember this? Whistle-blower says AT&T gave spy agency access to network, April 14, 2006



.....

Klein said the NSA built a secret room at the company's San Francisco central office in 2003, adjacent to a “switch room where the public's phone calls are routed.” One of the documents under seal, Klein said, shows that a device was installed with the “ability to sift through large amounts of data looking for preprogrammed targets.”

Other so-called secret rooms were constructed at AT&T sites in Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego, the statement said.

Other documents under seal show that fiber optic cables from the secret room tapped into WorldNet Internet subscribers, Klein said. The documents also instructed technicians how to connect cables to the secret room. Klein said he was required to connect circuits that fed information to the secret room.

The NSA declined directly to address the lawsuit or Klein's allegations, which covered activities at AT&T Corp. before SBC Communications Inc. bought it and became AT&T Inc. late last year.

.....



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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 01:41 PM
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48. Wiki on AT&T lawsuit
In May 2006, USA Today reported that all international and domestic calling records had been handed over to the National Security Agency by AT&T, Verizon, SBC, and BellSouth for the purpose of creating a massive calling database.<53> The portions of the new AT&T that had been part of SBC Communications before November 18, 2005 were not mentioned.

June 21, 2006, the San Francisco Chronicle reported that AT&T had rewritten rules on their privacy policy. The policy, which took effect June 23, 2006, says that "AT&T – not customers – owns customers' confidential info and can use it 'to protect its legitimate business interests, safeguard others, or respond to legal process. "<54>

On August 22, 2007, National Intelligence Director Mike McConnell confirmed that AT&T was one of the telecommunications companies that assisted with the government's warrantless wire-tapping program on calls between foreign and domestic sources.<55>

NOTE; Pretty interesting that AT&T says thet THEY,not their customers own their customers' confidential info. Wonder if those companies got the presidential waiver from being required to report their earnings to SEC,as mentioned in an earlier post upthread?
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Selena Harris Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 01:47 PM
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49. Fox allegedly had a secret room,also
Jan 10 2008 12:00am EDT (Portfolio magazine blog,excerpt)

Fox News Knocks Down 'Brain Room' Claim

Has Roger Ailes been keeping tabs on your phone calls? A disgrunted former Fox News producer claims he has the capability thanks to a secret "brain room" that the network uses for "counterintelligence and black ops."

Potentially the most explosive among(Dan) Cooper's many lurid claims, assuming anyone believes them, arises from his account of how his agent, Richard Leibner, dropped him as a client. Leibner did so, asserts Cooper, under pressure from Ailes, who had discovered that Cooper was an anonymous source for a New York magazine story about him, written by ex-Republican David Brock. And how did Ailes learn that?

Certainly Brock didn't tell him. Of course. Fox News had gotten Brock's telephone records from the phone company, and my phone number was on the list. Deep in the bowels of 1211 Avenue of the Americas, News Corporation's New York headquarters, was what Roger called The Brain Room. Most people thought it was simply the research department of Fox News. But unlike virtually everybody else, because I had to design and build the Brain Room, I knew it also housed a counterintelligence and black ops office. So accessing phone records was easy pie.


Read more: http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/mixed-media/2008/01/10/fox-news-knocks-down-brain-room-claim/#ixzz1SU3zbQi2
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #8
30. Everyone should understand the comments coming from
ReTHUGS that there is no need for investigations.

Thou protesteth too much McGramps and St Rudy of 9/11!!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 03:57 PM
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31. + The Milky Way and Andromeda. n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:29 PM
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6. Hey Righties... what's it like believing Frauds?
are you that cheap? How much morality are you willing to sell?
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 04:34 PM
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32. How much are you willing to pay?
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 06:51 PM
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9. kick
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 07:34 PM
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10. Tony Snow was a Freeper, so was Hannity and Levin.
I wonder who is funding FR?

They all started out on FR, as far back as 98 when most of us had not yet discovered the internet as a political tool.

There is no way Murdoch's Empire was not spying on people here.

Thanks for putting this together.

Shameful that someone like this was allowed to have so much power in this country. And those who gave it to him are traitors, imo.
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oldbanjo Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 06:33 PM
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36. Look at the power that the people that have bought off the Republicans
have. Right now our economy is about to collapse, these rich people control our Congress. I used to worry about the Russians now I worry about the Republicans.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:14 AM
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11. Is this suggesting that Murdock is/was an assets for our Govt.?
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:54 PM
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46. Murdock was an asset for the Bush Government and ...
The government was an asset for Murdock.

I've said it before, we're going to find this trail leads all the way to the Bush White House. They probably trained Murdock's hackers or told him who to hire that was already trained.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:22 AM
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12. i think it's more like 50ml a week radio audience, at times up to 20% + americans were saying they
got their news from talk radio.

maybe its down now but it should explain a lot as to why we're in this mess.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:26 AM
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14. just read reference to another possible bombshell: national security (UK) breaches among the hacked
Post is about a call to bring investigation to the first lawfirm hired by News Intl to review and report back on the first batch of hundreds of emails in 2007 (in response to the nascent controversy) which concluded the breaches were limited - and there was no indication of broader criminality.

It goes on to describe that more recently a second lawfirm was asked to review the same emails and.... (excerpt below)

from the guardian blog:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2011/jul/16/phone-hacking-rupert-murdoch#block-7
The Daily Telegraph reports that Labour MP Tom Watson has reported the firm to the legal watchdog, the Solicitors Regulation Authority and asked them to investigate.

News International requested a return of the email file from the law firm earlier this year and passed it to another firm, Hickman and Rose Solictors who in turn hired a former head of the Crown Prosecution Service, Lord Macdonald of Glaven, to provide a report.

Lord Macdonald told the Telegraph he had found evidence in the file of "indirect hacking", breaches of national security and evidence of serious crime. He said he advised News International to go to the police "and they did".


get that ?? Breaches of national security and evidence of serious crime.

Note - this is just a scouring of about 300 emails. Remember when the story broke it was revealed that *millions* of emails had been scrubbed from the archives from 2007 and 2009. I think the story was in the context that the police were working to retrieve said emails.

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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:03 AM
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17. Of course Murdoch is
behind all of this evil activity. Do you think anyone in his organization would do anything to cross him??? He rules w/ an iron first...a cruel, evil one.

I want to see him shackled.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:37 AM
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18. This is a hugely important post. When we take a step back
and add a little chronology, the big picture becomes crystal clear.

It seems, though, that they rely COMPLETELY on the amnesia of the American people. Isn't that paradigm breaking down now, finally? The internet (as free as it is right now) makes keeping the past in the past much harder..
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:48 AM
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19. K&R. I hope more is revealed about their US activities.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 11:55 AM
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20. K&R n/t
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 12:46 PM
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21. Evil bastards!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 01:36 PM
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23. K&R
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 01:58 PM
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26. K&R
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 02:01 PM
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27. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, seafan.
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uberblonde Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 02:01 PM
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28. We should be looking a little closer to home than that.
The National Enquirer has been using similar tactics for years -- many of them illegal. Why has no one complained about them?
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 03:21 PM
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29. K&R
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MaeScott Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 06:10 PM
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34. K and R. nt
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 06:16 PM
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35. Lies will always be uncovered
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:47 AM
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38. i cant wait till someone is pimp'n Murdock an Son's ass's in prison for cigarettes
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:49 PM
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45. OMG
:wow: excellent post
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