Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:35 PM
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Can progressives trust a "binding commission" on entitlements to do the right thing? |
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2. Can we trust that the appointments to the commission will be those that have the most appropriate priorities?
3. Can we trust that the deliberations of the "binding commission" will be transparent?
4. Is this democracy?
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:38 PM
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1. Put me down for multiple No's n/t |
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:38 PM
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:39 PM
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3. "No" on all counts. - n/t |
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:39 PM
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4. Hell no, are you kidding? |
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Just go ahead and call it the Foregone Conclusion Commission.
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Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:42 PM
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6. I'm not kidding. How is it that this is apparently going to be shoved down our throats? |
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:44 PM
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Catfood Part Deux.:banghead:
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:41 PM
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5. Negative on all counts. |
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:45 PM
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8. After the Warren Commission, the 9/11 Commission, and the Catfood Commission |
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I wouldn't trust a commission to tell me there are fires in Hell :evilfrown:
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:53 PM
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13. Don't forget the Greenspan Commission. |
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Boy was that ever a raw deal for the middle class.
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Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:12 PM
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22. & we can thank the Boskin Commission for our "no inflation" CPI/COLA statistics. |
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Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 11:12 PM by Faryn Balyncd
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Sat Jul-16-11 12:09 AM
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36. I don't think they're going to be able to hide behind a commission on this one. |
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We're about to see how that third rail thing works, don't you think?
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:48 PM
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:49 PM
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:50 PM
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11. Commissions are made because politicians can't do the right thing |
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:51 PM
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12. + 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! |
Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Jul-15-11 10:57 PM
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14. So do you think the commission would decide to HONOR the obligations to those that have funded SS... |
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Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 11:01 PM by Faryn Balyncd
....with decades of contributions?
Or would the commission make it easier for politicians to renege on those obligations because they could blame it on the binding commission?
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Sat Jul-16-11 12:10 AM
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37. they would provide cover for politicians to renege on the |
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obligations. For the record, I am absolutely 100% against any changes to SS or Medicare. The politicians idea of strengthening is to make it more difficult for people to get their benefits.
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:01 PM
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commissions are made to provide cover to politicians when their trying to do the wrong thing(which is pretty much all the time).:banghead:
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:11 PM
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21. That is more accurate. |
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Sat Jul-16-11 12:05 AM
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:10 PM
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20. Exactly! It's the modern equivalent of Pontius Pilate washing his hands |
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and giving in to the crowd.
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:57 PM
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32. Is that a double mataphor? |
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I think it is. And doubly descriptive.
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:43 PM
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29. Commissions recommend solutions politicans would like to distance themselves from. n/t |
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:02 PM
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:04 PM
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17. It is time to clean house on the Hill. We need people who believe |
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in something strongly enough that they will fight to protect Democratic Principles.
This Business of being too weak to do their job is getting sickening.
They are just covering their royal behinds. They think they can tell their constituents. I had to do what the Commission said.
You better believe every commission will come up with a Right Leaning Solution. Even the Bowles-Simpson Commission. Go back and look at every commission and you find similar. Oh yeah, they had this commission on SS once. Same thing--privatize.
My point is: The Congress should do their job or consider retiring.
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:05 PM
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18. Morris the Cat and the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse have promised to be very fair & balanced. |
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:07 PM
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19. Uh...no. Especially if its composition is similar to the Catfood Commission. |
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:16 PM
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23. It's not just progressives -- it's ANY American counting on the social safety net. |
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:23 PM
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26. You are absolutely right. That includes a large majority of Americans (even Republicans in denial). |
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:44 PM
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30. But, per usual, it's the progressives doing all the heavy lifting. |
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Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 11:50 PM by WorseBeforeBetter
Trade agreements. Repeal of Glass-Steagall. Election fraud. No WMDs in Iraq. Jobs. Marriage equality. And on and on and on...
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:21 PM
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..fuck their silly "commissions" and "studies"... cut the crap and get to work, boys and girls...!
fucking delusional corporatists....
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:22 PM
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25. Rhetorical question? nt |
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Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 11:22 PM by Zorra
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Faryn Balyncd
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:28 PM
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27. Yep....posed because it appears that a "binding commission" is now the axe of choice to cut SS & MC |
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:39 PM
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28. My question was rhetorical as well. |
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:53 PM
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31. NO!!.......NO!! .......... NO!! |
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I believe that is one of the reason that we fought the first major war in this country
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
What do we need congress for if they are just going to bypass them?? Might as well have commissions come with ideas and have all the people vote up or down on it...........
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Fri Jul-15-11 11:58 PM
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33. I love commissions. Commissions are made up of important experts who know what's good for us. |
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We need this commission because we are too stupid to know what's good for us without the commission telling us. We ought not to be questioning our betters.
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Sat Jul-16-11 12:08 AM
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And who would appoint the members of the Commission?
Obama virtually let Pete Peterson control it last time.
This is a cop-out and a dastardly idea.
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Sat Jul-16-11 12:53 AM
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38. Commission of more crimes, perhaps. |
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So by a "binding commission", they mean "a crime that we're going to get away with, and can't be undone."
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Sat Jul-16-11 12:55 AM
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39. To Be Blunt, Sir: Fuck No |
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Sat Jul-16-11 12:59 AM
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40. This Proud Firebagger Since 2005 says no. |
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Sat Jul-16-11 01:24 AM
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41. Are they in Washington and do their lips move? |
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Sat Jul-16-11 02:05 AM
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42. 911 Commission foreshadows |
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:27 PM
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44. Not in a million years |
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:54 PM
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45. No, No, a thousand Times NO |
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There is no reason to trust anyone except Elizabeth Warren and maybe Sheila Bair, Alan Grayson, Sheldon Whitehouse, and Dennis Kucinich most days.
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