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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 11:18 PM
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Illegal immigrant working inside nuke plant arrested
PHOENIX - Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's deputies arrested an illegal immigrant working inside the Palo Verde Nuclear Plant, the nation's largest nuclear plant and one of the most closely monitored in the country.

Cruz Loya Alvares was taken into custody by Sheriff Deputies on Wednesday and interrogated by the Sheriff's Human Smuggling detectives.

Deputies determined that the worker is, in fact, here illegally. Cruz admitted he has been in the U.S. illegally for most of the past 15 years. He was detained and deported in 2000 but paid a coyote for re-entry into the U.S. And last month, Cruz admitted that in June 2011, Mesa Police cited him for driving with a suspended license.

According to Sheriff Arpaio, Cruz tried to gain access to the Nuclear power plant on Monday but was denied entrance because his Mexican Driver's license was expired.

He then returned on Tuesday, this time as a passenger in a contractor's vehicle. Cruz presented an Arizona Identification card and was permitted into the facility. When plant authorities more carefully examined the card some time later, officials thought it may be illegitimate and contacted the Sheriff's Office.

Read more: http://www.kvoa.com/news/illegal-immigrant-working-inside-nuke-plant-arrested/
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 12:52 AM
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1. kick
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 12:56 AM
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2. Why did you kick this?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 01:02 AM
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3. Read another article about Arpai raiding a bakery for illegal immigrants.
Edited on Sat Jul-16-11 01:02 AM by Liberal_in_LA
He's on a illegal immigrant tear! But I guess it's appropriate in this case because one should not be working at a power plant under false pretenses.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 01:08 AM
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4. Did you read the article? It is a "scary foriegner" piece of crap propaganda.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 05:10 AM
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5. "Get Ready for the Alarmists: Illegal Immigrant Found Working at Nuke Plant"
http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com/por-que/details/get-ready-for-the-alarmists-illegal-immigrant-found-working-at-nuke-pl/8954/

Yes, I know he was illegal, yes I know it was a nuclear power plant but lets get the facts and that doesn’t mean tuning in to the Fox network.

The fact that Cruz has been in the U.S. (albeit illegally) for the past 15 years and much of that time without incident will be forgotten. It will also be forgotten that authorities at the Palo Verde Nuclear Plant have stated “the safety of the plant and public were never in jeopardy.” It doesn’t even appear that Alavares worked full-time at the plant but rather was working with a contractor for the day. What will be remembered is that he is undocumented, illegal and therefore a danger.

Arpaio who never found a camera he didn’t like and an illegal he didn’t hate couldn’t dream of a better arrest. To fan the flames of xenophobia that only Arizona and Arpaio can do as well he raises the question: “How safe is Palo Verde really if an illegal alien can gain access to this nation’s largest nuclear power facility?”

Joe - he was working there and in a low-level position and was never allowed into the plant itself or any secure areas according to officials. What was he going to do throw the hedge clippers at the reactors? Or worse take the grass trimmings and mix it in with the plutonium. Let’s remember that when nuclear secrets have been spilled the majority of the time it was at the hands of American citizens and the last major nuclear incident was an act of God in Japan.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 05:19 AM
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6. The fact is he was taking one of our citizens much needed jobs
FACT IS! That you need to understand. Nothing else matters here.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 06:07 AM
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8. Yes, but do you think that Arpaio and his repub/teabaggers supporters really care about American
workers. I think we can all agree that republican governors, state legislators and Sheriff Joe (who pass and enforce these state immigration laws - there aren't any in Democratic states) care little about their welfare. To them this is a useful scare tactic just like they do with the "danger" that gay marriage will corrupt America or an Islamic community center will spit in the faces of 9/11 victims or "Obamacare" will kill off grandma...

Illegal immigration is not a good thing. The real question is what to do about it. Repubs/teabaggers want to "round 'em up and ship 'em out" which has a nice "law and order" ring to it. Teabaggers support the strategy because they fundamentally "want their country back" and too many "others" (Hispanics, Muslims, Asian, Blacks-at least those who happen to be the president) here are a big problem to them.

Other repubs know that anyone who has researched the problem has concluded that voluntary self-deportation will never work and that the idea of arresting and deporting them one-by-one is an expensive pipe dream. Knowing this corporate repubs push the "enforcement" strategy. That keeps them looking tough on illegal immigration while it insures that a large pool of exploitable workers will be here indefinitely.

Also knowing this labor unions, civil rights organizations and the progressive caucus push comprehensive immigration reform as the only way to deal with the presence of a large number of easily exploitable workers which is bad for American workers. Unions, civil rights groups and the progressive caucus are not against enforcement. They just see the repub sole focus on it as worse than a distraction from finding a real solution to the problem. They see it as tactic to make sure that illegal and exploitable workers are never effectively dealt with which will make unscrupulous employers (big repub supporters) very happy.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 06:21 AM
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9. Yeah but thats a whole different subject though
I'm all for immigration reform too but as it stands today if a person is here illegally and working they are more than likely working for a lower wage than what our citizens want/need to be paid. In other words the fact they are illegal and working here is driving wages down and that is not a good thing for my brothers and sisters.

I'm part immigrant too, also part Indigenous and I'm not a teabagger nor a puke
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:00 AM
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11. I think the progressive caucus and unions agree that enforcement is a key ingredient.
They just believe that the laser-like focus that repubs/teabaggers have on "enforcement, enforcement, enforcement" to the exclusion of all else is a clever tactic to avoid solving the problem and keep both the teabagger base and unscrupulous employers happy.

Praising the "successes" of the republican's misdirected immigration strategy probably seems counterproductive to the unions and progressive caucus since these perceived "successes" help repubs avoid, or at least delay, a real solution to the problem. (Indeed some on the left criticize the Obama administration for deporting record numbers and, in their view, playing right into what the repubs want. Why would repubs want to agree to a comprehensive solution when they are getting the "enforcement, enforcement, enforcement" that they espouse?)

They know that repubs are invested in not solving the problem. The "brown invasion" is red meat they can use every 2 years to fire up the base and repub employers are happy if the problem is not resolved.

If you're "all for immigration reform" then we are on the same page in that respect.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 12:30 PM
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17. Yes we are on the same page
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:30 AM
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14. "They're stealing our jobs!"
They said that about the Irish, too, upon a time. And before them the Palatine Germans. And it's just as stupid and wrong now as it was then.

How much do you want to bet this poor bastard wasn't making even minimum wage and was getting paid cash? If you want to blame anyone here blame the employers for not wanting to pay a fair wage, not people like this.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 06:42 AM
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10. I disagree with this sentence in your response: "What will be remembered
Edited on Sat Jul-16-11 07:08 AM by Obamanaut
is that he is undocumented, illegal and therefore a danger."

What will be remembered is that he is undocumented, illegal, and had been sent back to his country of origin and then returned again, illegally.

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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:15 AM
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13. I suspect Sheriff Joe will be disappointed if that is all that is remembered.
Joe is hardly known as an objective, non-political enforcer of the law. If he were, you'd be right that "(w)hat will be remembered is that he is undocumentd, illegal, and had been sent back to his country of origin and returned again, illegally." That is what progressives will and should remember from the episode.

But if the "tea party sheriff" has his way though, you can be sure that this will be spun to maximize the danger that was posed by a person labelled as "illegal" who "broke into" a nuclear power plant. As you know "fear mongering" is one of the repubs best tactics and Joe is one of their best at it. I doubt that he will pass up the opportunity to spin this in a way that maximizes the "fear factor".
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 05:23 AM
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7. Bid deal. . Another republican guest worker makes headlines.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-11 07:02 AM
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12. Ah-ha. So the voucher system strikes again......
Take the word of the good ole boy$ as gospel since we all know that the good ole boy$ would never lie, misrepresent or knowingly hire people who are here illegally.

Yep. Worked great on Fort Bragg and Tyson and Triangle Paving and Grading - worked until someone dropped a dime on 'em or they get killed on the job and still, it's the workers who faced the wrath of the illegal immigration police NOT the contractors or big businesses themselves. Sure they hear a little fussing out, pay a couple bucks in fines and made to promise that they'll never ever do it again. :sarcasm:


Two different people working in security at the power plant also told Sheriff's officials that drivers of contractor's vehicles can "vouch" for the passengers if no identification documents are on hand at the time of entry.

"In post 9/11 times, "vouching" for employees who contractor's know little about is not good practice for a facility as critical as a nuclear power plant," Arpaio added.


When are we going to ever sincerely address these issues?
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