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Sat Jul-16-11 09:05 PM
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Poll question: Who would be your preferred primary challenger to President Obama in '12 |
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Edited on Sat Jul-16-11 09:28 PM by Ken Burch
(give your answer regardless of whatever any possible candidate has said about running)
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:06 PM
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1. Howard, but nobody is going to challenge him. nt |
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Sun Jul-17-11 08:18 PM
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Yes, I am a Deaniac. And have spoken with the Governor and his people. He won't even get near the idea. I respect his stance and know he will do what is right. I also know how he feels about Russ. I know privately he would LOVE to see Russ run, or even the draft russ campaign start dominating the topic of a challenger. Russ is our best bet. Recently, I signed up to help. We need to start doing something rather than just keep taking the temperature and arm-chairing.
We need Democrats to come home. And we need a Democrat in the White House.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:07 PM
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2. Sam Nunn. Anyone with a D behind their name. |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:26 PM
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14. Sam Nunn is to Obama's right. What would be the point of having HIM run? |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:27 PM
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16. Exactly. Why not ex-Senator David Boren. just as bad |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:49 PM
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31. Why not Zell Miller? I live in Georgia and we lead the country in Crazy! |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:08 PM
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:11 PM
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4. I had dinner with Bernie last night... |
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...wouldn't get my hopes up.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:12 PM
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5. You have no Feingold option so I cannot vote. |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:14 PM
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7. I was hoping Feingold would be our nominee at some point. :( |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:27 PM
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15. My assumption is that Feingold would run for Wisc. governor |
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And I supposed I thought if I had him on the list, people would argue that his Senate defeat disqualified him.
Maybe I can still add it, though.
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:09 PM
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37. He is my first choice for Wisconsin Senator, Governor, |
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and President, or anything else that he wants to run for. We love him. :loveya:
He would have no problem getting a populist following but I think he is a loyal Democrat and would not want to do something that might split the party up and help a Repulican get back in the White House. He has said he won't run against Obama and I don't see how that would change, and we do have suspicions that he's going to run for governor and clean up Wisconsin after we get rid of Walker.
I can see Feingold being really really annoyed if Obama screwed with Social Security, but not enough to run against him for President.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:29 PM
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18. I've now added Russ to the poll |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:56 PM
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34. Did you rename the first Other to Feingold? |
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Sun Jul-17-11 08:08 PM
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We already have some momentum with Russ.. He will not be running for Governor or Senator in WI. russforpres.com Russ Feingold for President 2012
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:14 PM
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:30 PM
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20. Does HE even have a birth certificate? |
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Sat Jul-16-11 11:38 PM
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44. He could claim his birthplace was Bethlehem |
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Sun Jul-17-11 03:49 AM
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54. ...so that's why he did the miracle of the Loaves and the Scrapple... |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:15 PM
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8. I'd almost like to see the candidate Obama from 2008 run against |
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Sat Jul-16-11 11:40 PM
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Sat Jul-16-11 11:50 PM
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48. Yup - Candidate Obama sounded pretty good, didn't he? |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:16 PM
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9. You know we aren't doing a primary. Unless... |
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If necessary, and I doubt it, he will be told to decline to run.
No Democrat is going to challenge a sitting president.
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Sat Jul-16-11 11:48 PM
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47. I really wish he would decline to run - "I shall not seek, and I will not accept..." |
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I keep fantasizing about those words...
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Sun Jul-17-11 01:54 AM
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51. Me too. I have never ever felt this way about a Democratic president. |
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I think some of it is because I have more information about Obama than about previous presidents.
All politicians need to understand that the voters are watching their every policy stance. Obama cannot get by with the underhanded stuff that Clinton could do with impunity.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:19 PM
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:30 PM
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19. It's not a choice of Obama by acclimation of President Palin |
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And, at one level, letting him have it without a fight is basically giving up. We know he can't be progressive in a second term.
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Sat Jul-16-11 11:54 PM
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49. Let us know how that works out for ya. n/t |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:21 PM
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11. You had plenty of room in the poll, but no choice for no challenger. |
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Why is that? It would have been simple to do or are you just not interested.
I'm not entirely happy with Obama but I think it would be stupid to primary him based upon the Republicans' desire to self destruct, plus I don't think that any Democrat is foolish enough to pour their time and life at considerable expense into tilting at that windmill.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:36 PM
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24. I left out "no challenger" because, in a poll about who should be the challenger |
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it seemed superfluous and out-of-place. You have the right to believe that not challenging makes sense if that's how you feel.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:22 PM
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12. As long as they are Pro-job,anti-war,pro-tax,and pro-tariff |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:22 PM
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The Honorable Stinky T. Clown, Esq.
"A rubber chicken in every broom closet"
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:59 PM
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35. sold, you've got my vote...where's my rubber chicken?....n/t |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:28 PM
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17. I'm more concerned about congress than Pres. Obama. |
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Maybe if we actually had a congress that would pass some progressive legislation for our president to sign, so many people wouldn't be acting like the president rules by decree.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:31 PM
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Sun Jul-17-11 04:35 PM
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66. Well, at least he would put an end to the insanity called offshore drilling. |
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And he could cut the defense budget considerably. Who the Hell needs a Navy when you can command sharks and giant squids?
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:32 PM
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22. Russ Feingold or Peter DeFazio |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:34 PM
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Still, it seems to me his logical next step would be to try to get into the next vacant U.S. Senate seat from Oregon, or possibly challenge Ron Wyden(if Wyden keeps being a right-winger on the healthcare issue).
DeFazio would also make sense as an Obama running mate if the prez did the sensible thing and cut Biden loose. That guy's been useless for the whole term. Every time Biden speaks, he reminds you of why he never had any chance of winning the nomination.
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:34 PM
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39. Ha, Obama probably has no idea who DeFazio is. |
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Sun Jul-17-11 04:31 AM
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But that also might make him an unexpectedly strong challenger, or a less-threatening choice as a 2012 running mate designed to reach out to progressives.
Dumping Biden would be no great loss.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:38 PM
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25. None of them - I want Obama to win! But I do hope that Grayson runs in 2016. n/t |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:39 PM
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26. until further notice.... |
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....Howard Dean, because the Good Doctor might be able to cure what ails us....
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:41 PM
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what we need is a challenger who supports the Libya mission because lives are being saved, charter schools and Medicaid block granting. Obviously, a "progressive" favorite!!! Dean 2012!!!
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Sun Jul-17-11 10:10 AM
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61. Peopl her that think Howard Dean is to the Left of Mr. Obama know NOTHING about Dean, |
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his postitions, or how he governed.
I like Howard Dean, but he is not anywhere near as 'Left' as most people believe he is.
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:42 PM
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:46 PM
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29. Looks like 40 or so people want President Bachmann. |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:48 PM
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30. other (unknown candidates who lose) n/t |
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Sat Jul-16-11 09:52 PM
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33. ANYBODY! Please! Even a rock would have let the Bush tax cuts expire. Worse, |
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The guy is going through this whole kabuki theater - that he could have prevented by doing nothing - without ever mentioning the wars or pentagon budget.
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:09 PM
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:52 PM
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41. Why not cut the military war budget instead of Social Security? |
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:15 PM
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38. Catchphrase of the Week: "Kubuki Theater" |
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Edited on Sat Jul-16-11 10:16 PM by CakeGrrl
Wonder which "Progressive" blogger coined that one?
Usage: When Obama does something perceived as good, blow it off as "Kabuki Theater" to assure yourself that it was just an act, because he's incapable of doing ANYTHING good.
Wow. Down to nominating a rock. Someone PLEASE do it.
:rofl:
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:39 PM
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40. The phrase "Kabuki theater" has been used to describe phony |
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political fights for a long time.
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Sat Jul-16-11 10:56 PM
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42. +1 it replaced meme as one of the most overused catch phrases. |
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Sun Jul-17-11 09:58 AM
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59. It's the appropriate term. Obama is going to punish grandma to foster pointless war, how |
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is that remotely good?
The 10,000 pound gorilla in the budget talks is the pentagon. It must be slashed as mercilessly as our drones maim children in the wars-for-profit.
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Sat Jul-16-11 11:34 PM
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43. Can we revive Kurt Vonnegut? |
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Sat Jul-16-11 11:46 PM
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46. now THAT would actually be awesome. |
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Edited on Sat Jul-16-11 11:47 PM by dionysus
be even better if it was Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
;)
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Sun Jul-17-11 01:51 AM
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50. I would be happy with any one of the above. |
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There is also Sherrod Brown and there are a number of other people.
My Congressman Xavier Becerra would be great, but he probably would not want to run. Might be able to draft him though.
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Sun Jul-17-11 02:34 AM
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53. Well if there is going to be a primary challenger |
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I guess Dean would be the one. Even my Repuke brother at one time said he would vote for Dean. I don't know if he feels that way today though.
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Sun Jul-17-11 08:57 AM
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56. What's the point of this? None of those people have expressed |
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any interest or intention to run. Most of them have made it clear that they will not do so.
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Sun Jul-17-11 09:00 AM
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57. Ahhh ... the daily Primary Obama thread. |
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I was so hoping this one had a new twist.
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Sun Jul-17-11 10:00 AM
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60. And it's getting to be too late! |
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None of the people mentioned are doing it or going to, and they've have to have started their campaign by now.
And of course the solution is always the Presidency. Any one of the idols listed above would still have to deal with Congress.
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Sun Jul-17-11 09:36 AM
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It would just serve as a distraction and offer up one-liners for the GOP to use against Obama.
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Sun Jul-17-11 10:27 AM
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63. Please stop this shit. |
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Nobody is going to primary the President. Give it up. PLEASE!!!!
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Sun Jul-17-11 10:31 AM
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64. This is the song that never ends... |
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it just goes on and on, my friends...
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Sun Jul-17-11 04:37 PM
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67. howard dean is ab unabashed, 100% supporter of Obama. |
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Pointless to even speculate on this.
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Sun Jul-17-11 04:41 PM
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68. Howard Dean or Russ Feingold would be fine with me. |
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Neither of them will do it, of course.
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Sun Jul-17-11 04:44 PM
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If it's not Hillary, I'm not interested.
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Sun Jul-17-11 08:12 PM
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72. Easy: russforpres.com |
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Russ Feingold is the only and best choice we have. According to his people in Madison, he will not enter the Senate OR Gov. race. The Russ Feingold for President 2012 draft campaign has already gathered momentum in WI, MA and ME (and that's just what I know about). In my mind, this is great and it is a no-lose situation. I have already submitted my name to volunteer. russforpres.com
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Sun Jul-17-11 08:16 PM
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primary him, Burch?
I'd love to hear your detailed plan on how you'd run the country. Here's your big chance.
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