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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:39 PM
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Fmr. Fox News Executive: Americans' Phones Were Hacked
Edited on Sun Jul-17-11 01:43 PM by FourScore
Sun Jul 17, 2011 at 10:56 AM PDT
Fmr. Fox News Executive: Americans' Phones Were Hacked
by The AnomalyFollow

Former Fox News executive Dan Cooper has claimed that a special bunker, requiring security clearance for access was created at the company's headquarters to conduct “counterintelligence” including snooping on phone records:

“Has Roger Ailes been keeping tabs on your phone calls?”

That’s how Portfolio.com began a post back in 2008, when a former Fox News executive charged that Ailes had outfitted a highly secured “brain room” in Fox’s New York headquarters for “counterintelligence” and may have used it to hack into private phone records.

After helping chairman Roger Ailes create the Fox News channel in 1996, Cooper was fired for doing an anonymous interview with New York Magazine:

”I'm frightened right now,” said a former Fox employee, noting the vast array of powerful connections Ailes maintains throughout the political and media worlds. “I've been told that if Ailes figures out I talked to you, he'll hunt me down and kill me.”

Negotiating the ground rules for an off-the-record meeting, Ailes came on like an Edward G. Robinson character in a B movie. “Three people in the world hate me,” he blustered. “You're not going to get to them, and everyone else is too scared.... Take your best shot at me, and I'll have the rest of my life to go after you.”

Cooper says that Ailes discovered he was the source by gaining access to his phone records through Fox's “brain room”.

Cooper claims that his talent agent, Richard Leibner, told him he had received a call from Ailes, who identified Cooper as a source, and insisted that Leibner drop him as a client--or any client reels Leibner sent Fox would pile up in a corner and gather dust. Cooper continued:

“I made the connections. Ailes knew I had given Brock the interview. Certainly Brock didn’t tell him. Of course. Fox News had gotten Brock’s telephone records from the phone company, and my phone number was on the list. Deep in the bowels of 1211 Avenue of the Americas, News Corporation’s New York headquarters, was what Roger called the Brain Room. Most people thought it was simply the research department of Fox News. But unlike virtually everybody else, because I had to design and build the Brain Room, I knew it also housed a counterintelligence and black ops office. So accessing phone records was easy pie...”

MORE: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/17/995568/-Fmr-Fox-News-Executive:-Americans-Phones-Were-Hacked?via=siderec
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:43 PM
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1. Kickety K&R nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:44 PM
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2. Get thee to the greatest page
because we just knew
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:44 PM
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3. I hope Roger gets his, much sooner than later...nt
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 03:47 PM
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30. +1
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:13 AM
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91. Laws apply to Right Wingers? Since when? I'm still waiting for Bush/ Cheney
to "get theirs".
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:45 PM
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4. the daily revelations are exhilarating !!!!
recommended
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:19 PM
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21. I agree!
It is delicious!
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:35 AM
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78. YOU KNOW WHAT is hitting the fan. Fox is going down
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:46 PM
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5. I await Ailes' perp walk.
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farscape Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:18 AM
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94. Absolutely!
That alone would almost make me believe in a god.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:48 PM
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6. May Ailes and Murdoch share a cell. nt
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 11:38 PM
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73. At least one should share a cell with the tossed salad man.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #73
74. That's cruel and unusual.
Love it. :thumbsup:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:48 PM
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7. House of cards is coming down...
and it cannot fall fast enough!!
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oldhippydude Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:58 AM
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79. John Dean was right
as one who spent an inordinate amount of time following watergate... this thing has the same "feel" to it..
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:50 PM
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8. Cooper does not say that Fox actually wiretapped. He just says
they tracked phone records.

That is not the same as listening in on conversations.

I would like to know whether Fox also listened in on conversations.

If you can get someone's phone records, how hard is it to listen in on their calls?

What is the technology involved in eavesdropping on phone calls? I'm not asking about the technical details. I want to know how hard it would be for Fox News to do that? They seem to have managed it in the UK and to have done it a lot.

How could anyone even manage to find the time to listen in to all the boring back and forth of personal phone calls? What a boring thing to do?

How are you dear? Oh, I had a sinus infection but it's better now.

How are the kids? Great. Marcy had her first piano lesson today. She is all excited and practices constantly. (I am dreaming.)

Etc. Can you imagine listening in to other people's trivia on and on and on?

The Facebook nightmare all over.

At least on DU you can simply move to a different post if one is too boring.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:18 PM
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20. Jude Law says he was hacked in New York.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:21 PM
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23. It would have involved bribing someone at the phone company
To get billing records which contain call info. And it is not difficult at all to tap someone's phone.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 04:27 PM
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34. Used to work at the phone co. way back when. It would have been
easy at that time. But now everything is transmitted and connected electronically. I suppose it could be done, but would you need inside-the-phone company help?

And wouldn't the number of phone companies in the US make it hard to corrupt that many of them?

What is the reality of this.

I don't know. I am just curious, especially since I remember seeing the old-fashioned system.

(Couldn't work in the technical part because of color-blindness. Pits, isn't it.)
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #34
60. I'm missing your point?
or maybe I'm just confused by your agenda. Yeah, that's probably it.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:43 PM
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68. How could they hack (how did they hack) people's phones
when there are so many different cell phone companies?

I can understand how the government does it, but how would Fox News do that?

There was a guy named Anthony Pellicano who was accused of doing something like this in California some years ago, but where do they hack the phones?

Do they hack place something on the phone? If the phone is wireless, how could that work?

I can't picture how this works.

Sorry. I'm just curious about how things work.

I don't have an agenda except that I might want to protect myself from this sort of thing (not that anyone would be that interested in anything I would say on the phone).
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:21 PM
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24. True that, but if you had phone records of employees, enemies, rivals
and big stars, what good would that do if you couldn't hack into their Voice mails, or, better still, their actual phone calls, to get leads on stories, or quash your enemies?

I'm sure that, if one is going so far as to check phone records, they would go further when they they thought they were onto something.
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brewens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:42 PM
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28. I think it's easy to get info from phone calls if you have the right
system. A system programed to red flag certain keywords. Just like the government uses.

What would be fun is if it was revealed the Bush administration helped Ailes set all that up
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 04:14 PM
Response to Reply #28
31. You can forget anything that would implicate
the Bush Administration. Obama's DOJ would fight tooth and nail to defend Bush no matter what he did.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 04:27 PM
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35. How sad but true, Enthusiast.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:09 PM
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62. They don't listen to it all--they data mine it by using filters. They
specify certain words or phrases as search terms, and then when those show up in a conversation, an alert is automatically sent, and that segment is lsitened to by an actual person.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:59 PM
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70. OK, I'm really older and I don't know about today's equipment.
How do they get to listen into specific phone lines in the first place?

Do they have to put a device on a phone or in a phone? How do they do that?
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tiny elvis Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 07:58 AM
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83. it is a little like asking how a cell phone works
if you get the gist of this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_Identity_Module
then you can see how a device can hack a device
i have not seen accusations of listening to phone conversations yet
murdoch has hacked voice mail, stored outside personal phones
and possibly uncleared text messages

off topic
reactionary neo-what-have-yous call their spying counter intelligence
what do reactionary neo-what-have-yous mean when they speak of counter terrorism?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #70
100. Cell phones don't have phone lines. They are basically radios.
With the right equipment, anyone can listen to a call.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:51 PM
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9. K & R
I'm sorry, this news brings me happiness.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 01:58 PM
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10. Fox if true this is the end of News Corp, period
mafia comes to mind
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. The Republican Mafia
so was the Patriot Act passed to facilitate Rupert???
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #12
19. It was ready to go
and yes you are right... if this goes deep enough it could sink a party too...

Come with me down the proverbial... well rabbit hole

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:20 PM
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22. It should but will it?
It is way beyond time for investigations
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:01 PM
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11. "Most people thought it was simply the research department..."
Well, since anyone can tell how much "research" fox does, it stands to reason that the "Brain Room" had to have been for something else.

It's a stroke of genius calling it the "Brain Room," though. Or even referring to it as a "research department." This ensured that the on-air people at fox would avoid it like the plague.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:07 PM
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13. Kaboom!
:nuke: :rofl:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:08 PM
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14. We've been waiting for this
:rofl:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:11 PM
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16. !
:hi: Who knew Hugh Grant was a Jedi? Hugh Grant-Skywalker. :rofl:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:14 PM
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18. Tomorrow, call all your elected reps from any party.
Ask them if they were hacked by Fox. Ask if they were blackmailed by Fox. Ask if they will investigate Fox.

Tell them to pull Fox's FCC license.

Make them feel they need to get out in front of this.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:09 PM
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15. RepubliCON propaganda pimps Vs. America & Decency
What steenking low low low values and ethics the Republicons have. They are at war against decency and America.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:12 PM
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17. Ailes is a serial bully
of the most dangerous kind, an Intimidator with a vast network of less powerful bullies under his command.

Intimidators use lethal threats to rob people of their willpower to stand up for what they know is right. It is extremely difficult to bring Intimidators down once they've established themselves at the top of an organization, country or social circle. But eventually, these infantile tyrants must fall into their own carefully laid traps, and that is what will happen to Ailes if enough whistleblowers keep stepping up to the plate and hit back.
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #17
39. But he looks like such a sweet, grandfatherly type.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #39
48. LOL, yes he does look cuddly
... and so did his forerunner, Joseph Goebbels, when he was in his element.

Here he is, telling the German people what's what:


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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #39
63. I think he has a Jabba the Hut aura about him. I expect to see him eat some sentient being alive at
moment.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 05:26 AM
Response to Reply #39
82. Look more closely
outer appearances often deceive (R)
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #82
85. Sorry, I should have put the sarcasm emoticon on there. It
seemed so obvious to me. Maybe it's not to late to add it here:
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
:sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm::sarcasm:
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freshwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #17
58. Ailes was a major player in the 2000 coup. Along with GE's Jack Welch.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:24 PM
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25. k and r
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:27 PM
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26. We already knew it..
no surprise hear. They all are frightened because some of them know they were involved and many have done so much dirt that they probably have forgotten some of it.

Please let Hannity,Ailes and a variety of assorted nuts at Fox be involved...
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:31 PM
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27. Like Ailes could resist...it's a News Corp. best practice
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Sportsguy Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 02:49 PM
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29. Now For The Stolen Elections Revelations
Well, something with their role in them anyway.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 04:21 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Anything connected to politicians. And the Kochs and friends.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 04:23 PM
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33. K and R for all the Steve Doocy fans
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 04:38 PM
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36. I'm hoping this is true. But, Cooper was fired in1996 according
to "The Nation" article. I think we gotta see how this plays out.
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cy18 Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 04:46 PM
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37. Media
I think a media revolution might be on the horizon guys.
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:11 PM
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38. Here's hoping that it
comes to something other than an empty apology from Murdock.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:16 PM
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40. Ask Governor Blago...
what he thinks?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:20 PM
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41. KNR!
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:22 PM
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42. Sorry for shouting but . . . . . I WISH I COULD REC THIS 100,000 TIMES!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:23 PM
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43. k&r...
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:25 PM
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44. Thank Dog for the Patriot Act!!!
Edited on Sun Jul-17-11 05:26 PM by HCE SuiGeneris
Where would we be without our orchestrated Reichstag?

And so it goes...
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:27 PM
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45. Check John Kerry, 2004. If not Fox, check Rove. n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:30 PM
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46. I believe that one of the reasons for this is to get blackmail material
to keep targets in Congress, in the courts, and elsewhere in line with the neocon plan. It's not just to get juicy tabloid news to sell papers and draw viewers. There's more at stake than this.

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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 05:55 PM
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47. Is it dangerous to eat a bushel of popcorn every day?
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 11:05 PM
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71. LOL. Pass it over here.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 06:25 PM
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49. K&R n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 06:28 PM
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50. "That's all, folks!"
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:20 PM
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51. K&R
:kick:
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:39 PM
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52. Ailes is crazy paranoid
Gawker's devoted a number of posts detailing how he's obsessed with his personal security and image in his chosen home town:

http://gawker.com/5793012
http://gawker.com/5800439/roger-ailes-continues-to-ruin-his-adopted-home
http://gawker.com/5797078/fox-news-chief-roger-ailes-cant-stop-calling-the-cops
http://gawker.com/5807533/i-locked-my-keys-in-my-car-and-other-reasons-roger-ailes-calls-the-cops

Knowing this increases the possibility that he would transfer that paranoia to the employees and subjects associated with his job.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:40 PM
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53. nazis
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:43 PM
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54. K & R
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:46 PM
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55. k&r!
go DOWN, Faux!
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:58 PM
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56. K & R
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 07:58 PM
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57. Once again under bush/Cheney/Rove .....
.... The NSA did the spying, the DoJ was the muscle, the U.S. Attorneys were the button men, and Fox news was the
propaganda wing. Who really thinks that all those NSA wiretaps were to stop "the terrorists?" The first phone taps
went in Feb. & March 2001 long before 9/11 and in Ohio 2004 Kerry & the Democrat's phones were hacked and tapped.

ATTN: Eric Holder Do you want to do something?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 08:42 PM
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59. K & R for the beginning of the end of FOX! n/t
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Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:01 PM
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61. I imagine a lot of Congress dare not cross News Corp
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:17 AM
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87. Wait for the first one to crack.
He'll want to trade immunity over what he knows, and who told him, for any potential jail time for what he was party to.

It will happen; there is always one coward ready to rat out all his criminal buddies in order to save his own ass.


He knows they were blackmailing him with personal information, but is more afraid of becoming an accomplice to a massive crime than have his wife find out about his teenage mistress.
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Prana69 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:38 AM
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102. Undoubtedly. And then wait for the news report that said whistleblower has turned up dead.
"Authorities say XXXXX died of natural causes and are not treating the death as suspicious".

P69
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:23 PM
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64. K&R.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:28 PM
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65. Please let this be the downfall of Fox....
Right into the Rabbit hole!!! Be Gone with ye!
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:29 PM
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66. K + R. Great post! Hax News. n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:35 PM
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67. I bet a lot of Republicans
eh em Rove, Junior, Cheney and others are sweating.......Murdoch and Ailes hung out with these guys....they didn't just hang out...
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 10:51 PM
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69. kick..............get em...all of em...nt
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-11 11:13 PM
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72. The old "Enemies List" again.... repugs are always done in by their paranoia and vindictiveness.
Edited on Sun Jul-17-11 11:14 PM by reformist2
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Firebrand Gary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:46 AM
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75. Are you F&%$#*& kidding me?
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ignatzmouse Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:22 AM
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76. Is there more to veiled death threat?
”I'm frightened right now,” said a former Fox employee, noting the vast array of powerful connections Ailes maintains throughout the political and media worlds. “I've been told that if Ailes figures out I talked to you, he'll hunt me down and kill me.”

This has a very familiar ring. Recall the claim in the Andrea Makris lawsuit via Bill O'Reilly that Roger Ailes could have people taken out. He specifically mentions a not-so-veiled threat that Ailes would snuff Al Franken. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/13/bill-oreillys-loofahfalaf_n_319201.html?slidenumber=5

Ailes, Murdoch, News Corp., these guys are mobsters. They conduct their business as a criminal enterprise. So, I ask is there more to these threats and fears? Is it just an intimidation tactic or have they actually hurt people? The narrative is coming from somewhere.
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tcaudilllg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:27 AM
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77. Be brave... we can bring FOX down.
Although I just want to see the news channel dead. I like the one the runs the Simpsons.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 11:51 AM
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99. D'oh!!!

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PuffedMica Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 05:18 AM
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80. Keep pressing. Keep showing public outrage. Bring FOX down
The truth is out of the bag and FOX is going down.
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PuffedMica Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 05:18 AM
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81. K&R
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Chorophyll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 08:01 AM
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84. And there it is!
No big shocker, but I'm glad it's coming out.

:kick:
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Weird Liberal Head Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 08:27 AM
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86. Yup
Let the investigations here in America begin!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:28 AM
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88. Ailes needs to go DOWN HARD.
Fox should be dismantled. Murdoch needs to be a fleeing man without a country ... with no haven anywhere. Persona non grata with no access to his billions.

THEN we'd see some real HOPE AND CHANGE. Not until then.

Of course, I'd like to see Murdoch behind bars, but I'm realistic enough to know that will never happen.

Bake
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RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 09:52 AM
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89. I think that severe damage to Murdoch's American interests is unlikely
Even if it becomes clear that hacking occurred here. This scandal very well may be catastrophic to his British interests, but I don't see some sort of 'Foxmageddon' happening in the US.

For one, the scandal may fizzle out over here. Extensive hacking may not be uncovered, in which case Fox won't suffer very much long-term damage at all. But let's say for a second that they do uncover hacking on a similar scale as has occurred in Britain (including soldiers and 9/11 victims).

Such revelations would certainly energize everybody who is opposed to Fox, but what would that really accomplish? You might see congressional hearings or legal action and maybe heads would roll at News Corp . . . but in the end, Fox will still have a large base of viewers, many (I'd say most, actually) of whom would be willing to forgive if the alternative were having to rely on CNN, MSNBC, or the networks for their news. Even if a large American scandal did hurt their numbers somewhat, they could still take a decent sized hit and keep going. That hit might be temporary, too.

And all of that is assuming a major scandal does break out here, which is not at all certain. Fox is going to have egg on its face over this no matter what and they will continue to eat negative headlines in the short term . . . but a year from now I doubt things will be all that different than they were before the scandal.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:16 AM
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92. It would have been a major scandal 20-30 years ago
when the MSM was a little more interested in journalism and laws applied to both the Left and the Right. But today? I won't hold my breath.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:21 AM
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95. A lull in the news and natural disasters could be a problem
After years of drilling the response on when to be quiet, it just might happen badly for those furry tail bastards
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:08 AM
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90. Anyone remember the Retroactive Ruling for AT&T's involvement with Hacking
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 10:24 AM by fascisthunter
question I have, will it be used to sheild FOX as well?
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farscape Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:17 AM
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93. I'm shocked!
I'm shoocked, shocked I tell you! *eye roll*

The systematic dismantelling of News Corp, the long slog to the utter destruction of Conservatism, has begun.

And who do I have to thank for this? Hugh Grant???? lol If we didn't live in bizzaro world already, I'd think that was unusual and, well, bizarre.
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greymattermom Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:33 AM
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96. to those who think this will disappear
remember that this company has very deep pockets. The trial lawyers can smell those pockets from many miles away.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 10:59 AM
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97. K & R!
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 11:48 AM
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98. K&R
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 12:42 PM
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101. Republicon propaganda pimps spying on honorable Americans
Disgustipating...
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BNJMN Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:45 AM
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103. "The rats are coming out of the sewer..."
What kind of world do we live in? People suspiciously bumped off.
Of course that was 'not suspicious'.A professional knows how to do it.

We may never know the extent of it. Or really want to.
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BNJMN Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:46 AM
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104. Bigger than fox. Wholesale corruption of gov'ts by media outlets. But I do love watching ol' Rupert
ssssssqqqqqquuuuuirm.
bastard.
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