Prussian Blue (young nazi girl band) renounce old ways

[MouseFitzgerald]

Lamb and Lynx Gaede, the dimpled tween rockers whose Nazi-themed pop band, Prussian Blue, sparked an exuberant media firestorm several years back have grown up — and had a change of heart.

“I’m not a white nationalist anymore,” Lamb told The Daily in an exclusive interview, the twins’ first in five years. “My sister and I are pretty liberal now.”

“Personally, I love diversity,” Lynx seconded. “I’m stoked that we have so many different cultures. I think it’s amazing and it makes me proud of humanity every day that we have so many different places and people.”

Now 19, they both still speak in a disarmingly girlish singsong. Their message, however, was not always so sweet. In 2006, the sisters, who formed the band at the suggestion of White Nationalist leader William Pierce, drew international notoriety with songs like “Hate for Hate: Lamb Near the Lane,” a dreamy folksong cowritten by Lamb and the late David Lane, a member of the violent terrorist splinter cell The Order, who was then serving 190 years in prison for his involvement in the murder of Jewish talk show host Alan Berg in 1984 (he and Lamb were pen pals).

http://www.thedaily.com/page/2011/07/17/071711-news-nazi-twins-1-6/


Its pretty cool to see that these girls were able to get over all the brainwashing they experienced. I also think its amazing that they say that marijuana basically helped save their lives.

[David__77]

1. Good to hear.

Their ideological transformation is 15% complete.

[Skittles]

2. I remember feeling so sorry for them back then

and wondering why teaching hate is not child abuse......I'm glad to see they have evolved nicely, although their mother still sounds like garbage

[Fokker Trip]

8. I thought exactly the same thing.

They were so young when their "career" was started. They should have been taken from the parents. Didn't that guy who named one of his sons Hitler have his children taken away? What happened to these young ladies was worse in my opinion. Disgusting when parents use their children to serve their own ends. Child abuse pure and simple.

Look up some of their "music videos" and get ready to puke.

[Chimichurri]

25. Me too. The Hitler mustache on their smiley faced t-shirts was just sad.

[XanaDUer]

132. Me too

nt.

[slay]

3. Marijuana can be a real eye opener

i know i could see through bullshit like it was water when i smoked. glad it could help these girls as well. wonder if that's part of why the government keeps it illegal - cause everyone would see through their bullshit in a second.

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. They did smoke pot

and I think it helped change or elevate consciousness.....

Remember this guy?

[Vinnie From Indy]

4. Fuck the both of them!

I would not piss on either of them if they were on fire.

[slay]

5. They both seem like very nice young women who were brainwashed as kids

i do not understand your anger towards them. did you read the article?

[Taverner]

10. Saying "oopsie" does not make up for what they did

Now they spend a summer building homes with Habitat for Humanity in NOLA for a year, then we can talk forgiveness...

[seabeyond]

14. saying oopsie to the world does a whole lot... i one is open minded enough to see

the advantages.

young people listened to them, and watched them reject what they were taught. can be a wonderful lesson for others.

[Taverner]

17. Any good caused by young people learning is negated by the hordes they whipped up into a frenzy

If they were not white and blonde, would everyone be so quick to forgive them?

If so - when do we start the "Pardon Lee Boyd Malvo" petitions?

Actions have consequences.

Like I said - if they really want to make amends, a summer in NOLA rebuilding the lower 9th ward would more than show their seriousness

[seabeyond]

88. or woud they be more quick to forgive them? dont have a problem with accepting a person has learned

a lesson. i dont care who it is. or how bad they were. to learn from their experience and be a better person is the journey of ALL our lives.

[RSillsbee]

122. What "hordes" I think you should watch some of their videos

I think the largest crowd they ever played to was like six people

[yardwork]

28. They were just little kids. Their mother was responsible for what they did.

[fujiyama]

35. I find it easier to forgive a bunch of kids

that were brainwashed into such a sick and twisted culture of hate.

It sounds like they've already learned as adults that what they did was wrong. Hopefully they will continue to do so.

Wasn't Malvo several years older than these two were when he went on the killing spree with Allen? Besides, Malvo actually pulled the trigger in several cases. These two sang hateful songs. I see quite a difference. I would agree if these two had actually committed violent acts. As far as I can see, they were just tools for racist propaganda.

[Taverner]

48. Yes there is a difference, but that does not negate the double standard at play

Malvo may have been a little older, but he was still "brainwashed" like they were. So was Patty Hearst, and she went on to be in movies.

There is a huge double standard, and the best we can do is feel sorry for the poor little white girls?

[Marrah_G]

68. One has cancer, the other works as a maid.........

They had a change of views when they started going to public school at age 14........ They have avoided publicity for 5 years.

What exactly do you want done to these girls?

[slay]

100. +1

exactly. they were brainwashed. i don't blame those girls one bit for prussian blue - and they don't have an easy life by far.

[JI7]

117. Malvo was like 17 years old, old enough to know what he was doing was wrong

these girls stopped what they were doing by that age and now at 19 , only 2 years older than Malvo acknowledge their wrongs.

[piratefish08]

16. brainwashed children taking control of their lives.....

and welcoming diversity.

yeah, gee, what a fucking horror story, huh?

[frylock]

39. the narrowmindedness on display on a supposedly liberal website never ceases to amaze me

[slay]

102. It bothers me too frylock

:(

[Marrah_G]

41. They were brainwashed children.........

who haves since grown up and have very different views from what they were indoctrinated with.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

51. They were little kids

And then they grew up. It's important to remember this when we see young tea partiers trying to please mom and dad that you ultimately change and stand on your own ideals.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

61. See #59. -nt

[FLPanhandle]

73. That says a lot more about you than it does about them

And you come off looking worse than the ex-Nazi girls.

[chrisa]

80. What a completely heartless, bizarre post

They were 14 when it happened. I think you're just trying to get a reaction.

[Rabrrrrrr]

87. I prefer to stand on the side of life that says redemption is not only possible, but a good thing.

And should be celebrated.

[devilgrrl]

89. How about other former skinheads etc... that changed their ways?

:crazy:

[Deep13]

125. They were children.

The basically got out as soon as they were old enough to get out from under their parents' thumbs.

[Ichingcarpenter]

6. They said going from Home school to Public school changed them

The rest of the story is pretty cool so be sure to read the rest.

[ret5hd]

7. Maybe they figured there was more money to be made...

than by focusing on the few hundred hardcore haters.

[divineorder]

115. What money?

If they wanted money, they could have kept going with their band-they would have made even more money as young nymphets singing racist songs-started a record company of their own and everything. They lost money by stopping what they were doing and denouncing it.

Now that they denounced everything, they can't make money-they were never all that talented to begin with.

[Taverner]

9. "Sorry" doesn't exactly cut it

Yeah, they were brainwashed, that doesn't mean they weren't responsible...

[NutmegYankee]

12. I disagree - we do not hold Children as accountable as adults.

And they were just children brainwashed by their parents.

[Taverner]

15. So if a teenager murders someone, are they off the hook?

Should Lee Boyd Malvo, who WAS brainwashed, be let off the hook? Given a pardon?

[NutmegYankee]

18. We used to have a juvenile court system...

Not that singing racist music is the same as murder.

[TheUniverse]

37. How many people did Lamb and Lynx murdered?

These were girls who were forced to sing stupid pop songs containing lyrics about how great a guy Hitler was in front of angry skinheads when they were preteens. They are victims of child abuse, and they have overcome it. If you want to keep insulting them because they have a terrible mother who forced them to do terrible things, go ahead, but I will not join your cause.

[Taverner]

45. Oh noes!!! We can't be mean to the poor widdle blonde girls!

I never said they murdered anyone - but merely pointed out that there is a BIG double standard at play - and if you missed that, then you're either not paying attention, or think its OK that whites get preferential treatment, even among so-called progressives.

I'll buy their sob stories, and Paul of Tarsus moments if they actually do something to make up for what they've done. So far, all they have done is gone "oopsie!" and then "sorry."

When my kids do that, they don't get a free pass and neither should Lamb and Lynx.

[Marrah_G]

64. So what should be done to them?

[Taverner]

67. Done to them? Nothing

But I'm not forgiving them for calling for my destruction, or wanting to bring back the concentration camps, or naming themselves after a product that was used to kill millions of my people.

Not unless they earn it.

That's all I'm trying to say.

[Marrah_G]

70. one has cancer , the other is a chambermaid

They have stayed out of the public eye for 5 years and quit singing after entering public school at age 14. Not quite sure what people expect from them.

[Taverner]

78. I don't expect anything from them. But they don't get my sympathy. Sorry.

That is all.

[TheUniverse]

83. And I am sure they will lose sleep over the fact that they don't have your sympathy.

[Taverner]

84. You're missing the point

I don't really give a rat's ass what they think

But I find it alarming how many here on DU are willing to forgive and forget, as if all they did was to get a DUI - wait, no scratch that. If they had a DUI, half of DU would be calling for their heads on a stick. But somehow channeling racism, hatred and genocide gets a free pass.

[Maru Kitteh]

113. What they are channeling here is redemption from hate.

I suspect your problem with them has much more to do with their gender than their message of hope after enduring a childhood of isolation and indoctrination.

[tabasco]

135. And I don't give a rat's ass what you think.

Your post indicates a lack of intelligence.

Have a great day!

[Taverner]

144. So being a Holocaust Denier is OK?

The two mammals (Lamb and Lynx) still deny the Holocaust

Make of that what you will...

[RSillsbee]

96. Prussian Blue is a color of paint

I think you mean Zyklon B

[Taverner]

111. They are one and the same:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

[RSillsbee]

121. Prussian Blue

From Your wiki article: Holocaust deniers say that Zyklon B gas was not used in the gas chambers, relying as evidence on the low levels of Prussian blue residue in samples of the gas chambers found by Fred A. Leuchter, which Leuchter dismissed as the results of general delousing of buildings

From My wiki article : Prussian blue is a dark blue pigment with the idealized formula Fe7(CN)18⋅14H2O.<1> Another name for the color Prussian blue is Berlin blue or, in painting, Parisian blue. Turnbull's blue is the same substance but is made from different reagents.

From another Wiki article: The band was named after the color Prussian blue. In an interview with Vice Magazine, the twins stated, "Part of our heritage is Prussian German. Also our eyes are blue, and Prussian Blue is just a really pretty color." They also remarked, "There is also the discussion of the lack of 'Prussian Blue' coloring (Zyklon B residue) in the so-called gas chambers in the concentration camps. We think it might make people question some of the inaccuracies of the 'Holocaust' myth."<4> This is a reference to the claims<15><16><17> made by many Holocaust deniers that the Holocaust either could not have happened as historians and observers have asserted or that the number of victims could have been far lower.

[Taverner]

123. So...we're both right?

[RSillsbee]

130. Nope

you can't be right and hate at the same time

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[RSillsbee]

149. No , I'm not a racist

I just think you're taking this a little too far. These two are kids, their brains aren't even completely developed yet. They got caught in mom's little world of hate and now they want out. Let it go man

[NutmegYankee]

106. A paint color killed millions of people? nt

[Taverner]

112. They are one and the same:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B

[NutmegYankee]

119. No they are not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_blue

[Taverner]

120. Clarification: Prussian Blue is the residue left by Zyklon-B

And the alleged lack of residue is something holocaust deniers bring up, citing it as "proof" the Nazis couldn't have killed as many as claimed.

[NutmegYankee]

129. Which has nothing to do with the band.

They named themselves after the color as has been stated in interview after interview.

As for the color, I have bathroom tiles that are Prussian blue, among other shades. It's used as a commercial paint pigment. It is a cyanide based compound, hence the reference to Cyclon B, which was also cyanide based and would have left a residue from the chemical reaction. The color existed as a color before the death camps of WWII though. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_blue#History

[Taverner]

145. No - it was a nod and a wink to the holocaust deniers

And BTW, they still are...holocaust deniers that is

[NutmegYankee]

147. That may be so, but they still named their band after the color.

It's called facts - deal with it.

[frylock]

42. these girls murdered somebody?

are you capable of forgiveness?

[Taverner]

46. See post #45

Forgiveness is earned, not given

[Marrah_G]

40. They were brainwashed children

Now they've grown up and thinking for themselves.

[Taverner]

47. So was Lee Boyd Malvo

And he's in jail for life.

Yeah yeah, Lamb and Lynx never directly killed anyone, but if you don't think there is a double standard at play here you are either blind or think white privilege is deserved.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

53. Has Lee Boyd Malvo renounced his beliefs? (n/m)

[Taverner]

54. More than that...

As of 2011 Lee Boyd Malvo, Virginia Department of Corrections # 1180834, Inmate # 330873, is incarcerated at the Red Onion State Prison.

On October 2, 2007, Malvo called a daughter of one of the victims, Cheryll Witz, to apologize for his role.

Malvo reportedly sent a letter, dated February 21, 2010, to apologize to John C. Gaeta for shooting him. Malvo wrote: "I am truly sorry for the pain I caused you and your loved ones. I was relieved to hear that you suffered no paralyzing injuries and that you are alive."

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

62. Good for him

Unfortunately for him, he participated in murder.....

[Gormy Cuss]

58. Malvo was 16 or 17 when he participated in that murder spree.

Not 11.

And FWIW, Malvo probably should have the possibility of parole because of his age and the circumstances which led to his participation.

[Marrah_G]

60. I disagree

I doubt we will come to any agreement on this topic so I'm going to just wish you a nice day and step out for lunch.

[Taverner]

66. Chew your food

That comment is neither here nor there except when I get angry, emotional and frustrated I forget to chew and end up choking on my food. Not good.

[NutmegYankee]

108. Malvo also had his life spared because he was a juvenile.

His mentor got the death penalty.

[divineorder]

118. Lee Boyd Malvo killed someone and was old enough to rebel

So even if he renounces everything, he has a penalty to pay for that. He can't be just let out as if nothing ever happened. Patty Hearst was convicted and needed a pardon for her crimes-but her crimes were minor compared to her kidnappers, and she never killed anybody.

Neither girl seems to have harmed anyone or broken any law, just believed what their controlling mother told them. And what a belief system-filled with hate and resentment-hardly something that made them happy to hold those beliefs. Imagine being told to basically fear anyone not exactly like them-and then meeting them and finding out what you were told wasn't true at all-that they were actually nice to you and overlooked a lot of stuff. Then you were introduced to an even wider circle of friends thanks to pot, who hadn't been told to live in hate and fear all their lives, and were pretty mellow to boot.

Taverner, those girls are too sick and too poor to build buildings in the Lower Ninth Ward. So the best they can do is let people know they have changed.

[WatsonT]

13. Neo-nazi twins discover pot and become laid back hippies. That's so . . . sitcom

maybe in college they could share a dorm with homosexual jewish guy and a black nationalist.

[LanternWaste]

19. I imagine many people may believe...

I imagine many people may believe that personal growth is often "sitcom-ish"

[WatsonT]

21. I suspect it's more "this gimmick isn't working anymore" and "it sucks having no friends"

than actual personal growth.

[GaYellowDawg]

30. Whatever makes the change.

And you have to think that our society is making a little progress when you have a realistic explanation based on the idea that blatant racism leaves you friendless.

[entanglement]

20. Good for them. I bet they are far less racist than the average "respectable" conservative.

[Poll_Blind]

23. I bet you're probably right.

PB

[Poll_Blind]

22. I'm surprised at some of the people who are not willing to forgive these girls.

I don't know how many of you bothered to read the article, but I took the time to do so. They seem genuine. This does not seem to be so much a change of heart as an escape from a racist ideology. Again, I would suggest folks read the article. It explains much more than the snippet does and also describes the fact that the girls are aware they have now become "race traitors" to their formerly fascist fans and that there is a real element of physical danger involved in them coming out and rejecting the beliefs they were taught as ignorant children.

I don't see anything that indicates they're not 100% genuine in their comments. The late Senator Robert Byrd was the most eloquent, informed and enthusiastic protector of Liberty and Freedom. Yet, he was once a member of a Ku Klux Klan. He wasn't a homeschooled child raised by racist parents- he was a full-grown man when he joined- but I've never seen a wary eye cast at him when he was alive because of it.

He, just like the twins, learned right from wrong, made better choices. The difference is, he should have known better.

Anyway, people can think whatever they want of course but I don't get the hate. We're supposed to encourage people to leave these kinds of dead-end, racist, violent ideologies. They didn't change because they were caught in some lie or crime. They could still be touring and probably making good money playing racist songs for racist fans. They stopped, not because it wasn't profitable anymore, but because they learned enough to reject the extremist ideology they were taught.

That's a good thing.

PB

[demmiblue]

26. +1

[Mz Pip]

27. I remember them

and they really creeped me out. If they have seen the error of their ways then good for them. It's not very liberal of people to hold people's former beliefs against them forever.

I don't think I can for give their parents for naming them Lamb and Lynx, though. That really is unforgivable,

[Marr]

95. I remember thinking it was sad that someone had brainwashed a

couple of little girls that way and shoved them onto a stage.

[ProfessorGAC]

29. +1

Well Said.
GAC

[NashVegas]

36. I Can Easily Forgive Their Youthful Stupidity

It's their current PR drive that gives me pause.

[Poll_Blind]

38. What PR drive?

Did you read the article? One of them is in pretty rough shape, medically. To me, it seemed like they just wanted to come out after laying low for a few years because of the threat of violence after their change.

PB

[Taverner]

49. If they spend a Summer in NOLA rebuilding the Lower Ninth Ward, then I'll forgive them

So far, all they are doing is trying to get a new audience.

Color me skeptical.

[Poll_Blind]

57. I'm just curious- did you read the article?

Lamb is a hotel chambermaid, who is dealing with scoliosis among other medical & problems. Lynx is recovering from cancer and lives with her parents. They're both 19.

Both of them hope to enroll in college and work to get medical marijuana legal in all 50 states.

Can you point to why you believe they even have a music career at all, now?

PB

[Taverner]

71. Fine. But that's hardly making up for what they did.

Forgive me if I don't shed a tear. I've known folks who have scoliosis and DIDN'T have the benefit of a music career. Folks who, if caught with medical marijuana, would have been arrested and left to die in prison. Folks who didn't have the benefit of white privilege.

As much as Medical Marijuana is a near and dear issue for me - in the end they are trying to help themselves, not trying to make up for the hate they spread, the empowerment they gave to the Nazi movement.

[RSillsbee]

98. Your refusal to forgive affects them not at all

but allows them to control you w/out even trying

[Union Scribe]

148. That's funny. Aren't you the guy who attacked a Katrina survivor here

a few weeks ago? It was locked as "race-baiting" as I recall.

[NashVegas]

82. The One That Got Them Into a Big Internets Start Up

Very few news stories - especially profiles - especially profiles on relatively obscure entertainment figures - ever get written anymore just because some dedicated news hound got curious and wanted to go after a story. They happen because an editor gets pitched by someone's PR agent, or is doing a favor for that agent in return for landing a much bigger interview.

[frylock]

43. the world and this site in particular aren't short of self-righteous assholes

[Taverner]

72. Fine. The next time someone sings songs celebrating the death of your ethnic background...

I'm sure you'll just chalk it up to "youthful indiscretion"

[frylock]

103. you know what? you're right. best just remain bitter and hateful..

enjoy your wonderful life.

[RSillsbee]

128. Hate

It's not just for Freepers anymore

[immoderate]

52. Sounds like they got enlightened. That's good.

Sounds like some here don't accept a "converted" freeper, and prefer to hate them. We can certainly do better.

--imm

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

59. I don't think ''forgive'' or ''not forgive'' is the right way to look at it.

More like, "Did they really get better? Or is it a facade?"

A healthy dose of skepticism is OK. Naked insults are not.

[Poll_Blind]

65. I can absolutely agree with that sentiment.

I think people aren't taking the time to read the full article, which is fairly explicit about the trials the girls have been through and what they're hoping to accomplish in the future.

PB

[Taverner]

76. Look, Medical Marijuana is very near and dear to me

Being a patient as well as an activist in the movement I understand why this is such a big issue.

But in the end they (and myself - lest I perpetuate a double standard) are doing this for THEMSELVES. They are not trying to make up for what they did. And what did they do? you might ask. Well considering they chose their band name after a product that was used to kill off Jews in large numbers. "Prussian Blue" is Zyklon-B. I can tell you all kinds of stories about that, but oh - the Holocaust is the past. We can't obsess about that.

And that's just the beginning. They also gleefully sang for the death of Blacks, Jews, Hispanics - anyone who isn't white. Now genocide might be a game to you, but for me it is not. I've been to countries where there has been genocide, and guess what - it's no laughing matter. IN fact, it scars a country like you could not imagine.

Ah but they were young and brainwashed! So were the Hitler Youth. So were the young residents of Democratic Kampuchea. And so it goes.

People should take responsibility for their actions. And when you make a quick buck fanning the flames of hate and racism, literally singing ballads to genocide - I'm sorry if I just can't put that away as a youthful indiscretion.

Now - if they really were sorry, they could make reparations for what they did. They could earn their forgiveness (sorry, I'm not a Christian. I don't believe in giving away forgiveness like it's a keychain) by doing something. There are a lot of ways to skin that nazi.

[ebayfool]

85. They are still Holocaust deniers & think people should get over it.

See post 56 - I can't believe everyone is skimming over that part of the article & leaping to their defense!

[Taverner]

86. Very true. The irony that their band name celebrates the genocide, yet they deny it at the same time

Is, well, cognitive dissonance on an epic scale...

[Taverner]

110. Hint: They are still Holocaust deniers

:shrug:

[meow mix]

24. thank goodness

i hated them.. sounds like they deserve a second chance though

[Strelnikov_]

31. My sister and I were home-schooled,” n/t

Now, the Gaede twins say they have changed their views and attribute their earlier political pronouncements to youthful naivete. “My sister and I were home-schooled,” Lynx pointed out. “We were these country bumpkins. We spent most of our days up on the hill playing with our goats.”

[ebayfool]

56. They weren't country bumpkins - they lived in a fairly posh area of Bakersfield.

Which for all it's drawbacks, this family was too extreme to take ... & that's sayin' something! They were homeschooled because the neighborhood they lived in & it's school were horrified when they found out just what this family represented. They weren't homeschooled because they lived out in the boonies.

And from the article they still are Holocaust deniers ...
snip/
Meanwhile, they’ll keep growing up. Impressive as their transformation has been, for instance, their views on World War II still bear traces of the Holocaust denial ideology they were taught as children. For instance, asked whether the Holocaust happened, Lynx replied, “I think certain things happened. I think a lot of the stories got misconstrued. I mean, yeah, Hitler wasn’t the best, but Stalin wasn’t, Churchill wasn’t. I disagree with everybody at that time.”

Lamb concurred. “I just think everyone needs to frickin’ get over it,” she said. “That’s what I think.”

They are old enough & savvy enough that they can't blame their current attitude on their upbringing. Frickin' get over the holocaust? Things got misconstrued?

It's a PR move.

[RSillsbee]

126. I think she means people need to get over Prussian Blue. NT

[RSillsbee]

32. Their mom was the driving force behind Prussian Blue.

They pretty much dumped her the day they turned 18

[ebayfool]

50. Where do you get that they dumped 'mom'? One still lives w/her ...

snip/
The girls are still on good terms with their mother, who they say has been surprisingly supportive of their philosophical evolution. “She said she taught us to question things and that she’s glad we don’t just accept everything she says,” Lynx said.


snip/
Suffering from a number of medical issues, Lynx lives at home in northwest Montana with her mother, her stepfather and her half-sister, Dresden. Lamb, who works as a hotel chambermaid, lives a short drive away, but she often stops by with a bag of dirty laundry.

[RSillsbee]

94. I guess I could have communicated that better

How about they dumped mom's ideology the day they turned 18. There's a big discussion about it on youtube.

[ebayfool]

99. They obviously didn't dump enough of it ...

ie: people should "get over it" & "stories got misconstued" when asked about the Holocaust.

I think it's more of a case of they didn't practice their PR enough.

[RSillsbee]

101. Whatever

They're moving on, we should too

[divineorder]

114. It takes a long time to grow out of something you were raised with

And these kids were not only raised that way, but exploited that way too. Think of the meanest stage mother you have ever heard of, and then add some noxious ideology as well. It takes time to sort all of it out, and time to shake a lot of it off. And I bet they are trying to also shade things a bit so they can still get along with mom as well. They still need a place to stay and work to get, so they can't go too militant against their mom's obsessions. Perhaps if they find a way to move away from home where there is medical pot (California, maybe?) and more diversity, they would grow even more.

[Strelnikov_]

33. Oh, shit, now they're in BIG trouble

Approximately a year ago, Lamb and Lynx stumbled on a new treatment that they say has done wonders for many of these ailments.

“I have to say, marijuana saved my life,” Lynx told me. “I would probably be dead if I didn’t have it.” She discovered pot while recovering from her cancer treatments. She’d been prescribed morphine and OxyContin, which she quit cold turkey. One day when she was having a bout of nausea, a friend offered her a toke. She was reluctant at first. The girls’ biological father had been “a druggie” when they were young, Lynx said.

But the drug worked wonders, and soon Lynx became one of the first five minors to get a medical marijuana card in Montana. Now Lamb has one, too.

Pot has also helped the twins rekindle the creative impulses they once channeled into their music. They’ve both taken up painting — astrological themes, mostly — and Lynx restores furniture. They hope to enroll in college, and intend to dedicate themselves to making medical marijuana legal in all 50 states.

[guitar man]

34. I hope they are sincere

And I hope they can stick with it. I was raised in a farm town in the middle of nowhere with quite a bit of racist influence... not as extreme as these girls, but it was tough to change directions. It's a lot easier to hate and close your mind to those that are different from you than it is to love and try to understand them. And it doesn't just all go away overnight, when something has been pounded into you from an early age. It's not like a light switch that one can just reach up and turn off.

It takes work and personal growth to change it, but the journey is ultimately worth the reward.

[NoGOPZone]

44. Actually, Prussian Blue would be a good name for a strain of marijuana

I wonder how well the stuff would grow in Berlin

[Taverner]

79. LOL. Funny. Sick, but funny.

[RSillsbee]

127. So if he wants to name some weed after

" a product that was used to kills millions of your people' it's OK? but you want these too sold into slavery and flayed?

I'm missing something.

[Name removed]

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[Ikonoklast]

92. I dunno, sounds kinds...authoritarian somehow, yanno?

"Zis new pot, you smoke now, ya?"

[guitar man]

105. I got used to using Prussian Blue

When I was rebuilding hydraulic pumps and doing valve jobs etc.

http://www.permatex.com/products/automotive/specialized_maintenance_repair/rebuilder_aids/auto_Permatex_Prussian_Blue.htm

[Blue_Tires]

55. lolz

I predicted this years ago, when the outrage first started...From the very beginning, I said "This is something they will eventually grow out of..."

[FightingBobsghost]

63. Change of heart

Behold the Power of Pot!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

69. ''We spent most of our days up on the hill playing with our goats.''

Must.

Not.

MUST...

NOT!

[guitar man]

74. I know

It's hard not to.... :hide: :rofl: :spray:

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

90. .

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-13-2011/field-of-dongs

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-13-2011/comedy-repression-therapy

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

136. That was EPIC!

:applause: :rofl: :thumbsup:

[toddwv]

75. They were exploited. Plain and simple.

They were kids. Instead of dragging them off to soccer games, their white trash mother put guitars in their hands and dragged them off to white power rallies.

Along the same lines as sex workers who are sold as young kids, these two were exploited to push the white supremacist message. This isn't exactly a peaceful or forgiving subculture.

By "coming out" like this, they have most likely put their lives in jeopardy. While I'm not going to go so far as to call the shining beacons for all due to their unwavering courage and braveness, I'd like to see them at least given the benefit of a doubt.

If you're going to hate on someone, hate on their white trash mom for exploiting them like this. It sounds like they both are going to live very tough lives and they have both been through alot that will take lifetimes for them to sort out.

I'm glad that they are moving into other things because they weren't exactly blessed in the musical talent department. Their "music" sucked eggs on many levels.

[NeedleCast]

77. Break the Cycle - Good For Them

Haters gonna hate, even on DU.

Takes a lot of courage to do what these girls are doing, especially considering who their new enemies are.

[Uncle Joe]

81. Kicked and recommended, I hope they continue on their path of enlightenment, maybe they can

elevate their mother as well.

Thanks for the thread, MouseFitzgerald.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

91. Once again weed saves the day. nt

[Marr]

93. They have a half sister named Dresden.

Isn't that interesting. For some reason, I was kind of assuming they'd been brainwashed by dad or one of mom's boyfriends, but maybe it was mom. If the half sister is related through the mother, I mean.

I mean, who names a kid Dresden?

[Poll_Blind]

104. Kurt Vonnegut?

Other than that, it is a really weird choice.

PB

[Jack Rabbit]

97. There is more joy in Heaven for a repentant sinner than for a thousand saints

!!

[Maru Kitteh]

107. "“My sister and I were home-schooled,”

From the article:

“My sister and I were home-schooled,” Lynx pointed out. “We were these country bumpkins. We spent most of our days up on the hill playing with our goats. <snip> But after enrolling in public school and moving to Montana — a predominantly white state, albeit one with a decidedly hippie-ish vibe — Lamb and Lynx decided they simply no longer believed what they’d been taught.”
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I'm very happy for these girls. This is a reminder that not all children in these kinds of white-supremacist hells need be lost forever. I also think that home-schooling should be regulated much more closely than it is now. Home instructors should have to pass a standardized examination and the curriculum should be regulated as well.

[elleng]

109. Great color. The rest, not so much,

[proud patriot]

116. good to hear

:)

[Deep13]

124. Good for them. nt

[AverageJoe90]

131. Back in the day, I felt so terrible for these two...........

But in all honesty, I am beyond grateful that these two were able to turn their lives around; and hopefully, it'll be a permanent change. =) (I thought the marijuana story was pretty cool, too.)

[Forkboy]

137. Varg Vikernes had kids?

Who knew?

[Heddi]

138. OMG. I just watched Until The Light Takes Us last night

good looking guy, bad brain.

[Forkboy]

140. Scary because he's smart. I love his music, but he's got issues.

Fenris came across as a dope in the movie, which he kind of is lol.

Pretty good doc altogether though. Interesting insight into that whole ugliness back then.

[July16th-20th]

139. Sorry, but I'm skeptical.

Sounds like they're prepping to go mainstream.

[Odin2005]

142. Wow, the viciousness towards these girls in this thread is disgusting.

They came to their senses and people are shitting on them?

[Taverner]

143. May I PM you my feelings on the matter?

[Odin2005]

146. Sure!

[RSillsbee]

150. AM I the only one that thinks those 2 are lookin' kinda rough these days? NT