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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:03 PM
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Surprise, surprise. Decriminalizing Drugs reduces drug abuse by 50%
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 02:03 PM by 99th_Monkey
Ten Years After Decriminalization, Drug Abuse Down by Half in Portugal
Jul. 5 2011 - 3:09 pm | 7,569 views | 0 recommendations | 6 comments
By E.D. KAIN

Drug warriors often contend that drug use would skyrocket if we were to legalize or decriminalize drugs in the United States. Fortunately, we have a real-world example of the actual effects of ending the violent, expensive War on Drugs and replacing it with a system of treatment for problem users and addicts.

Ten years ago, Portugal decriminalized all drugs. One decade after this unprecedented experiment, drug abuse is down by half: Health experts in Portugal said Friday that Portugal’s decision 10 years ago to decriminalise drug use and treat addicts rather than punishing them is an experiment that has worked.

http://blogs.forbes.com/erikkain/2011/07/05/ten-years-after-decriminalization-drug-abuse-down-by-half-in-portugal/
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:05 PM
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1. k & r
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:19 PM
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2. K and R thanks for posting..
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:19 PM
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3. K&R indeed!
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:21 PM
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4. The money spent on jailing people
Is better spent on treatment and education. It's rather like the business of the death penalty; when it's abolished, the murder rate usually goes down.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:25 PM
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5. "Whatever. I'm making MONEY!"
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:29 PM
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6. Drug warriors often contend that drug use would skyrocket
if we were to legalize or decriminalize drugs in the United States. Repeat the claim often enough to ensure continued funding otherwise we are out of a job.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:33 PM
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8. Of course they do, it's how they pay their mortgages.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:31 PM
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7. When you screw with your average person's decision making capacity by means of coercion, e.g.
unjust laws, it tends to affect the functionality of "decision" outcomes.

Make sure that social contract is respected, i.e. society ensures that there is a decent deal for the necessities of life, with some assurance of the possibility of success FOR ANYONE willing to engage in the bargain, leave people alone as much as possible, without un-necessary constraints, and they DO make the right decisions.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 02:46 PM
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9. Do The Anti-Legalization Hand-Wringers Realize That We've Done This Before?
And they lost on that one too?

Years ago, alcohol shared the same status as drugs do right now. And what did you see going on? Money was being spent left and right to bust speakeasies, stop the importation and manufacture of alcohol, and prosecute "criminal" alcohol users. This was also the heyday of Al Capone and the Chicago gangs, who gained unbelievable power simply by controlling (read, "cornering") the market for alcohol. And guess what? People STILL drank.

Then alcohol was legalized. And what happened? How much money does the government spend regulating alcohol? Less than none (they actually MAKE money by taxing alcohol sales). Where are the Chicago gangs these days? Organized crime has abandoned the alcohol market and moved on to...........say it with me, now.............drugs. Is alcohol use rampant today? Maybe moreso than it was a century ago. But is anyone out there decrying the "epidemic" of alcohol use in America right now?

So why would legalizing drugs be ANY different? Take the billions spent on fighting the "War on Drugs," take a PORTION of it, and dump it into education and treatment programs (and I say a PORTION of it because you'd never need to use ALL of that money for that purpose AND because once the drugs are taxed, the government will be making money hand over fist).

I'm sorry, but for every person who can tell you a "drugs ruined so-and-so-a-person's life" story, you'll find TEN people with a "I like to get high in the privacy of my own home, on my own time, watch TV, eat a pizza, and fall asleep" story.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:01 PM
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10. Yes, but decriminalizing/legalizing would drastically cut into the profits of the Prison Industrial
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 03:01 PM by kath
Complex.
And we CERTAINLY can't have that.
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jeff47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:53 AM
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19. OTOH, it would massively increase the profits of big Pharma
I'm actually kinda surprised they aren't lobbying for an end to the war on drugs.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:10 PM
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11. Kicked and recommended, if we were smart our nation could learn from Portugal.
But we're too focused on either fear, greed or pride.

Kudos to Portugal for their vision, respect for freedom and empathy for their citizens.:thumbsup:

Thanks for the thread, 99th Monkey.
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duhneece Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:29 PM
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12. For me there's no greater injustice right now than the war on drugs
On second thought, the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan are just as unjust.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:39 PM
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14. The War on Drugs is a GREATER injustice than Iraq or Afghanistan.
The War on Drugs is actually a war against our own principles as a free, self-determined people. It is a war to enslave the entire population -- to authoritatively dictate to them what is 'thinkable' and what isn't. The very fact that we can conduct and continue the illogical, anti-freedom, wrongheaded, cruel War on Drugs is what makes it so easy (too easy) to get involved with equally stupid, poorly thought-through "wars" in other places. Our government is deliberately lying to its people. No good will ever come from that.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:31 PM
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13. This is bullshit!
Edited on Mon Jul-18-11 03:32 PM by RegieRocker
1. These statistics are wrong.
2. Portugal isn't America.
3. I have personally witnessed what drugs do to people.
4. No way could legalizing drugs be good for the country.
5. My kids would start doing drugs.
6. Crime would increase.
7. I would become fearful of people I come in contact with .
8. It's morally wrong.
9. Productivity and workplace safety would drastically decrease.
10. Our country would fall into the crapper.

:sarcasm:
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:40 PM
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15. You forgot "It would make Jesus cry."
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 03:53 PM
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16. Damn!
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:28 AM
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17. You had me going for a minute ... then I saw the sarcasm smiley. whew!
But you also forgot that old standard=bearer ...
"Pot is a well known 'gateway' drug to heroine, meth and cocaine."

How could you have forgotten that one, pray tell?
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:10 AM
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18. The War on Drugs is an abysmal failure.
My speculation as to why drug abuse declined at such a spectacular rate:

1) Public education accompanying the legalization
2) Legalization allows people to seek help for their drug problem w/o the fear of arrest.
3) Hard core use becomes "recreational" use as the drug users don't try to finish off their stash in fear of getting caught.

Pure speculation and number 3 is shaky at best. :)
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