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banned from Kos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 05:51 PM
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Sad news - all 399 Borders Book stores to close - 11,000 jobs gone
http://www.ajc.com/business/final-chapter-written-for-1024512.html

"All 399 stores will close soon, some as early as Friday, Borders said in a statement. Liquidation should be complete by September. The company, which employs about 11,000, had not turned a profit since 2006."
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:02 PM
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1. Another sign of the digital revolution
and the times.
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BlueDemKev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:02 PM
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2. Of course it's Obama's fault....
After all, this whole online-shopping craze never would have happened had it not been for health insurance reform, the stimulus, appointing Geithner as Treasury Secretary and his traveling around the world making amends with our allies after the Bush/Cheney years. :eyes:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:04 PM
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4. So happy you made this about Obama
instead of the 11,000 folks losing their jobs.

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demmiblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:09 PM
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6. Word. n/t
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:30 PM
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11. For some only Obama and his image matter.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:33 PM
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13. It was sourchasim bud.....
:hi:
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:35 PM
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15. The post appears to be a sarcastic take on what republicans will
be mouthing about the news. Republicans blame everything on Obama, even the heat waves and global warming inspired weather their party created.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:04 AM
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:03 PM
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3. So sad.
:(
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:07 PM
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5. More green shoots.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:17 PM
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7. It's a bummer
Although I prefer to patronize locally owned book stores most of the time, it's a shame to see any outlet for books (and CDs, and magazines, and DVDs, and games, and DVDs, etc.) go by the wayside.

And those are 11,000 jobs lost really is a tragedy. I've always found the staffers at Borders to be nice, helpful and knowledgeable. Rough times ahead for many of them. :cry:
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:33 PM
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14. Yep. It's a shame.
I was hoping for a last minute bidder to save them. It's a shame all the way around. I really liked our store. We went out of the way to go there as opposed to the B&N. I was always relieved every time ours made the cut.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:39 PM
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16. Indeed
sorry to see this come to pass.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:19 PM
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8. Sad to see that
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:26 PM
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9. We barely held on to our big indie bookstore here in Memphis recently.
I'm glad we did :( We'd really be hurting for places to go.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:29 PM
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10. Damn it the vulture capitalists win again.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:10 AM
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20. It's Technology. Not Vulture Capitalists
Tablets and E-Readers are the wave of the future. No more lugging around and storing books.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:19 PM
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24. The 12 people who "liquidated" Borders all made six and seven figure bonuses.
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:41 PM
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25. You're right and wrong at the same time...
It is technology, but it is people buying paper books over the internet that killed Borders (that and investors fearing your future). I also believe that the majority of books will someday be e-books, but that is the future and Borders didn't make it into the future. Paper has a while still as the dominant medium for books and even longer as a viable alternative. Think radio to television...even once television became available to consumers, it took decades before it passed radio as an entertainment and mass-media delivery platform and then, it still was a viable technology for 50 years.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:31 PM
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12. -11,000 jobs for July...
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-11 06:52 PM
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17. The superstore pioneer, which put countless of mom-and-pop bookshops out of business
Ask me how I feel about that? Or Blockbuster after destroying the mom and pop video rental business....I was one of the FIRST in the country in the very early Eighties with my beloved ex..
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:55 PM
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29. They set in motion their own demise when they started up
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 02:56 PM by SoCalDem
They were the "new thing" that eliminated/crushed/vanquished any bookstore that dared to compete (even though the stores they put out of business had been there for a long time).

They knew that in an economy like we have now, people are attracted to the "big shiny", and they provided it, and then along came e-books, and online book sellers who did them in..

I loathed the big-box bookstores. I did not go to bookstores to drink coffee or buy tee shirts or toys or to listen to odd music.

I feel badly for the employees who are now out of a job, but unfortunately, this is the way it all unwinds:(
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:07 AM
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19. Sad for people losing their jobs....but I never did like Border's much.
They didn't seem to have a very good selection and their prices were higher than other stores or something. I haven't been in a Border's for years, preferred Barnes and Noble.

Oh well, nothing lasts forever.
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:19 AM
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21. wasn't it believed that Borders was neocon-ish?
nt
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:21 AM
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22. It makes me very sad. I had moved from B&N to Borders and then
back to B&N once I got my Nook.

I tried buying e-books through Borders because they were readable on the Nook but they definitely had not invested in their online presence and they made it difficult to both locate and purchase ebooks.

Even before ebooks really took off they were having Amazon fulfill the orders received online. Not very forward thinking.

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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:21 AM
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23. Eventually, there will be no more books, everything will be electronic.
And then, the powers that be can turn us off and we'll be lost.
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:44 PM
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26. We're turnin' the corner.
:puke:

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:46 PM
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27. Didn't Borders offer benefit packages to retail workers?
That sucks...
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:47 PM
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28. Sucks - But They Picked the WRONG business model
In an era when things were starting to lean towards digital media Borders chose instead to expand it's physical inventory of music and DVDs and spend a shitstorm of money renovating its stores. In an age when you need to be thinking ten years ahead, they were looking five minutes into the future. They outsourced most of their online sales to Amazon, which was basically like giving what would become their prime competitor the keys to their headquarters.
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 03:03 PM
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30. Job loss numbers not that clear cut really
It is really tough to quantify the job losses in situations like this. It isn't the same as a Ford plant in the U.S. shutting down and the factory reopening in Mexico...and even that hypothetical example has some complications. With failed businesses, especially chains, it's hard to know how the closure will affect competitors (will B&N now need to hire 5,000 extra clerks?) Will 2 smaller, local bookstores open in the wake of each Borders death?

Restaurants are a great example of this principle...in any city of moderate or larger size, restaurants almost continually go out of business. New ones open at generally a slightly faster rate. So, when the steak house on the corner closes and the 20 people that worked there lose their jobs, a chicken place and a pizza joint open next door hiring 21 people. Although it may be churn and upheaval--the city economy doesn't really blink, unemployment is unaffected, and it ultimately doesn't mean much.

Is it rough on the folks working at Borders? Of course. Is it going to affect the economy or even the unemployment rate significantly? Probably not.
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