obama on the teevee talking to some young Democrats

[Horse with no Name]

I wish he would quit comparing himself to GREAT President's. The only POTUS that he compares with is Hoover...except Hoover was better.

[somone]

1. Great presidents don't offer to sacrifice the elderly and disabled

in order to preserve tax cuts for the rich

[Horse with no Name]

3. Amen.

He took their heat away as an appetizer before he takes their Social Security checks and Medicare.

[SugarShack]

30. Who's left to fool but the kids?

[EFerrari]

2. We won't see the real damage until into his second term

when all those unemployed workers and newly homeless families hit the pavement in numbers that can't be hidden any more.

[Horse with no Name]

4. I didn't have high expectations because he is just as bad as I thought he would be

but he has even exceeded my low expectations.:(

[WCGreen]

9. Yep... there was an old SNL skit by Jon Lovitz that was about lowering your standards...

I tried to believe, I tried hard to get excited back in 2008, I really, really wanted it to be something ground breaking.

And I was excited on election night, you would have to be totally cynical not too be, or a republican or a racist, but as the transition team was assembled and the people he was gathering and the lack of an agenda...

Well, there you have it.

[Horse with no Name]

10. I echo your sentiment

He wasn't someone I was proud to support.

But, the excitement of voting for the first African American President in an African American church was pretty symbolic, to say the least.

And there was a sliver of hope that maybe, just maybe, I was wrong.

But that was quickly swept away when Rahm Emmanuel was appointed....and it has gone downhill from there.

[mistertrickster]

34. +1 Whenever our country faced terrible trials, a great leader emerged.

Washington during the Revolution, Lincoln during the Civil War, FDR during the Depression and WW2.

I thought Obama was going to be that transformative figure in our time of runaway capitalism and the crushing of the middle class.

[coalition_unwilling]

42. I trace the start of my disillusionment to the announcement that

no criminal investigation would be launched in the war crimes and crimes against humanity of the Bush Junta, all in the interests of looking forward.

Or maybe it was when Obama retained Gates as Defense Secretary and nominated Hilary as Sec of State. So much for 'change we can believe in.' More like 'chains we can believe in.'

[emilyg]

13. You express my thinking. Thanks.

[Hawkowl]

32. There isn't going to be a second term

After he is finished fucking over Medicare and SS to save the bondholders, he will not have a chance. If he thinks he's going to be able to spin this positive, he is absolutely delusional insane.

I will cheerfully vote against him if he betrays us.

[Autumn]

5. Did he compare himself to Ronnie or who?

I not sure I have ever heard him mention any great Democratic Presidents.

[Horse with no Name]

7. He is on his Abe Lincoln thing again. n/t

[jaxx]

6. The young Democrats like him.

As do 86% of Democrats in this country. Don't piss in the wheaties.

[Horse with no Name]

8. Maybe you Third Way young guys here on DU

and perhaps he has 86% (doubtful--but I am going to let you throw that out there)...but the second he cuts Medicare or Social Security...I can guarantee you....those numbers will plummet.

[jaxx]

16. Third way young guys?

Who are you talking to? I'm 64 years old and voted for the first time in 1968 for Humphrey. Unless you're a young guy who doesn't know crap, you will remember that was the year Bobby Kennedy was killed or I'd have been voting for him, which was my first choice until it was taken away by some asshole with a gun.

Don't be so anxious to point the finger because you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[Dept of Beer]

38. So are you "Third Way" or not?

Yes or no.

[jaxx]

43. No, I'm a liberal Democrat.

Always have been.

[OnyxCollie]

11. 86% of Democrats?

I thought it was 87% of liberal Democrats, of which 2 out of 5 Democrats claim to be.

[jaxx]

12. There are so many Obama supporters it's hard to keep track.

[OnyxCollie]

14. Put your talking points on recipe cards.

It'll be easier for you to propagandize.

[jaxx]

18. Snark from you, but your dog is nice.

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[OnyxCollie]

17. Then there's no need to blame the far left

when Obama gets his "shellacking."

[jaxx]

20. Making excuses already?

Or just hoping to look tough to the others?

[OnyxCollie]

21. I'm not the one distorting facts

to support an argument.

"86% of Democrats"

:rofl:

[Dept of Beer]

39. No. It seems like she has a fair point of view.

[jtuck004]

33. Stand by. They're gonna count them November of 2012. n/t

[EFerrari]

23. In 2010, people identifying as Democrats was at a 22 year low

and down five points from 2008.



http://www.gallup.com/poll/145463/Democratic-Party-Drops-2010-Tying-Year-Low.aspx

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[jaxx]

28. And about the third way young guys?

[Skittles]

29. wrong

it's REAL DEMOCRATS

[OnyxCollie]

31. Real Democrats™

FUCK YEAH!

[Raine]

41. EXACTLY the real and true Democrats. nt

[mistertrickster]

35. Because celebrity is more important than results. nt

[emilyg]

15. Here's hoping those

young Democrats are listening with their ears and not their hearts.

[Scurrilous]

22. It's garbage OP's like these which make me wonder why I even bother coming to this place anymore.

n/t

[Horse with no Name]

24. Garbage in. Garbage out.

It's what's for dinner these days...at least if you can't afford the catfood.

[TwilightGardener]

40. Pretty much same with me.

[Joe the Revelator]

25. Quite the 3 person pile on in here...

Carry on.

[Horse with no Name]

27. Oh did I forget to ask your permission?

Don't you have another ra-ra thread to start??

[meow mix]

36. a speech of defeatism, cowardice, and weakness.

far cry from the guy he played himself off as.

[Dept of Beer]

37. At least there is a dam named after Hoover.

Time will tell if Obama becomes the first President that a colander is named after.

[BNJMN]

44. Loved the msnbc interview with Frank Rich (today) about how he just took TOO LONG to ...

...get started.

My wife and I had noticed that as well. He got elected, passed a bunch of stuff, then disappeared for about 4 or 5 months. (And I swear I saw him at some warehouse in Ohio slurring his words! Seriously, maybe it was a cold or something but I really thought he may have crumpled under the pressure and gone on a bender. Who knows.)

Then the health care debates draggggged on and by the time THAT was over (a year later) "Citizens United" had been passed, then November Elections and now the recession was in full bloom and the Republicans are howling at the gates of the White House. I know running for office is draining, I guess, but he should have hit them and hit them and hit them and hit them and hit them and hit them and handed the bat to someone while he sipped some water then hit them and hit them and hit them again, never stop.

Now he's playing catch up and it's too late for many people.

Also, he's a centrist and always was.
Not everyone's cup of tea. Whatever.

He's head and shoulders above ANY of the Republican Scumbags in office.