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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:38 AM
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Come on Obama, tell the American people the freaking truth.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 12:43 AM by Elwood P Dowd
Get on the Teeeveee thing and lay it on the line. It will only take 5 minutes.

Hold up a one-page bill and then hold up something the size of the New York telephone book that the repukes want to add to that bill. Tell the people how the repukes want to destroy Social Security, Medicare, and all the other beneficial plans that help millions of our citizens. Stop being Neville Chamberlain and become FDR.

Edit to add: Do it in PRIME TIME on Tuesday night!!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:39 AM
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1. If he told the truth
They'd want to kill him. Oh wait, they want to kill him anyway.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 06:46 PM
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30. Which ones? n/t
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:40 AM
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2. Good post---disappointed ( But I guess not surprised)that my rec just kept it at zero.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:44 AM
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3. My dear abq e streeter...
You laid the groundwork...

Now it's five.

Thank you!

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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:49 AM
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4. I guess i understand his more fervent supporters objecting to the Neville Chamberlain comparison
(or was it Wilt Chamberlain...or the Neville Brothers...?) Anyway, I do understand that, but the general tone was just encouraging him to FIGHT and bust the repubs big time, which i think we all agree with.
P.S.....:hi:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:52 AM
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6. Yes, and I certainly agree with you!
P.S...Nice to see you tonight...:hi:

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Elwood P Dowd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:56 AM
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7. You cannot negotiate with nazis, fascists, tea baggers, or racists (their base).
IOW, you cannot negotiate with the current republican party.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:06 AM
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9. Yep; I don't understand why any Democratic leader hasn't figured that out .
I really don't get it. I sometimes genuinely wonder if the Bill Hicks "comedy" routine on this subject was really no joke at all.
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:09 AM
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11. It wasn't a joke.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:31 AM
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16. So right you are, Elwood P Dowd.
That is why, assuming Obama is not trying to pull something sneaky over on the American people, he doesn't just go directly to the people and explain his proposals and the Republican proposals.

All these secret negotiations just make Americans nervous. How can we trust Obama when he doesn't tell us what is going on with these negotiations. After all, as he pointed out, he has $5 million in his accounts.

Those of us who are just getting by are getting quite frightened by the sneaking stuff going on in D.C.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:34 PM
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28. This is the REAL 'uncertainty' that is hurting the economy. nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:32 PM
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27. That is correct.
And it isn't simple misjudgment by Obama. He knows.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:06 PM
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42. He knows and he agrees. That's the scary part.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:29 AM
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15. Come to think of it
the analogy might be appropriate. Good ole Neville, good ole Obama
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:40 PM
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22. I support Obama....
I have no problems with the OP. I have the same view.
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Petrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 12:51 AM
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5. This should make it 16 . . . K & R
:kick:
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:03 AM
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8. k & r
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:07 AM
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10. Rec'd. This is how he should do it. Enough with the kid gloves!
And this coming from an Obama supporter who will donate to his campaign and vote for him again. But I do feel he needs to step it up a bit.

He needs to slam them.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:59 AM
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12. Not Neville Chamberlain.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 01:59 AM by Lasher
More like Philippe Pétain.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:09 AM
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13. Or Vidkun Quisling.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:12 AM
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17. Yours is the better example.
I bow to your superior intellect.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:23 AM
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14. Why would he do that? He's spent two years setting up his political cover for this moment.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 02:23 AM by Marr
It's why he's so insistent on his "grand deal".
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:50 PM
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24. Exactly "never let a make believe manufactured crisis go to waste"
He's getting what he wants - both the crisis and its Death Knell For The New Deal resolution.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:33 PM
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39. Exactly -- !!! The all powerful GOP ... the minority -- !!! Sadly hilarious ... !!
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:04 AM
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18. He should tell them we can fix it by repealing Rupert Murdoch's $1billion/year tax refunds.
Americans give about a billion a year to the murdoch empire in refunds.

suckers.

'Income tax refunds' of nearly $5 million... Murdoch's News Corp Took $4.8B from US Taxpayers over 4 Years

http://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=2428§ion=Article

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:10 AM
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19. "Be the First. Start a Fashion!"
Pseudolus---A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:38 AM
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20. Hearing politician tell the truth would be like a going on a date with a virgin prostitute.
It would require you to traverse beyond the boundaries of reality and into the realm of the supernatural.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:36 PM
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21. FDR would hang his head in shame if he were alive today! n/t
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:58 PM
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49. More likely, he'd point and laugh at the latest Republican challenger
he trounced handily by telling the American people that he's on our side and that he welcomes the hatred of the entrenched business and financial concerns.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:47 PM
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23. Honestly - why can't people face what he really is?
If he cared about Social Security and Medicare you wouldn't be pleading with him to take the case to the public. That would be his whole strategy.

"Become FDR"? My God, SNAP OUT OF IT, MAN!
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SSDA Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:12 PM
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34. Cult of persona
Cult of personality politics at it's worse. Same as the thugs who defended bush no matter what he did.
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RVN VET Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:32 PM
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35. Obama '12 will still be the lesser of 2 evils
But that's a real huge plunge from Obama '08. He's not the hero of the working and middle classes that we all thought he was back in '08. He is unlike the GOP in that he doesn't want us to be beaten quite as badly as does the GOP. At least that's the story I'm hearing from him (by his actions and inactions) so far.

So I'll probably vote for him in '12. No, actually I won't vote FOR him. I'll just vote against whoever the Repubs run against him. And then I'll go home and drink myself into a coma. :-(
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:09 PM
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43. Christ, he appears weak.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 04:57 PM
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25. The solutions are simple. Kick!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:30 PM
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26. He won't use the TV thing
to help Democrats.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 06:45 PM
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29. If he told the truth he would have to explain why he's giving the wealthy a tax cut.
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russspeakeasy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:13 PM
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44. and it would be a 3 hour lecture that I would not understand
when he was finished...I may not even be able to tell when he is done.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 06:47 PM
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31. It'll never happen. The MIC runs this country, not Obama. Not congress. - K&R n/t
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 07:27 PM
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32. Truth!
And the MIC would never permit any level of honesty that might jeopardize their cash flows.
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SSDA Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:10 PM
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33. Huh???
Do you really buy into this Obama = good. GOP = bad. Nonsense.


Both of these parties and playing us for abject idiots. Obama is getting away with murder here that gab never could and gets a pass because he is democrat.
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Mosaic Donating Member (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 08:48 PM
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36. Truth
Something he obscures all the time, from ignoring the base on bush prosecutions. From his moving forward meme, meant to say don't punish past evil deeds of war criminals. He is a master manipulator. To selling out the middle, and lower classes to the rich. To trashing progressive values on war, which goes against peace that we stand for. I will not vote for him or support him under any circumstances.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:07 PM
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37. It would take a person of immense courage and no fear of death to do what you asked, Elwood.
Too bad our President is neither.

But it's nice to fantasize about it every once in a while.

REC.

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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:10 PM
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38. just fucking stupid.
did the republicans create the catfood commission?

did the republicans put ss and medicare on the table?

obama owns all this bullshit.

obama is bullshit.

the corporate coup is complete.--hedges

if voting made a difference it would be illegal.-berrigan
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:37 PM
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40. That's what an actual leader would do.
Sadly, he is not a very good leader.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 09:48 PM
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41. At this point...Obama is either complicit in crimes...
...or he's going to do something about it.

Yes, I understand--the big, bad neocons and the scary Grover Nordquist, James Baker and
Henry Kissinger will be mad if you speak out.

But what choice does Obama have?

To watch this country slip away into a sick, dark state, or do something?

The dynamics of this are no different from a bunch of junior-high-school bullies picking
on someone and intimidating them with fear and power.

Just tell it like it is. If you don't, soon or later, everyone will know that you said
and did nothing when you could have saved this nation.

Silence is the abusers best friend.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:18 PM
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45. Please don't hold your breath. You are too old and it would be
dangerous.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:19 PM
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46. How about he reads section 4 of the 14th Amendment instead?
It's just ONE SENTENCE but it says it all: The public debt of the United States is not to be questioned.

WHY IS OBAMA ALLOWING THE REPUBLICANS TO QUESTION IT THEN?

He should simply get on TV, read the amendment aloud, and read from the Executive Order he is giving to Treasurer Geithner to PAY the debt and dare the Republicans to take it to court.

Doug D.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:31 PM
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47. I think the communities the prez is now organizing are all gated. nt
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mckara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:32 PM
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48. The Republicans Won the House in a Landslide
Could you do better than the President?

Elections have consequences!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 11:09 PM
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50. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!
:bounce:

:kick:

:hi:
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:07 AM
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51. Do it in prime time EVERY night.
If a lie can be repeated enough to become the truth, imagine what the truth repeated every night could do.
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