Dupnik was over-the-top.

[Jackpine Radical]

Here are some more measured and reasonable comments:


1. Rush Limbaugh: "I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for."

2. Senator Phil Gramm: "We're going to keep building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs."

3. Rep. James Hansen on Bill Clinton: Get rid of the guy. Impreach him, censure him, assassinate him."

4. John Derbyshire intimated in the National Review that because Chelsea Clinton had "the taint," she should "be killed."

5. Ann Coulter: "We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too."

6. Ann Coulter: "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."

7. Bill O'Reilly: "ll those clowns over at the liberal radio network, we could incarcerate them immediately. Will you have that done, please? Send over the FBI and just put them in chains."

8. Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"

[valerief]

1. Who said he was over the top? BTW, your list is terrific! nt

[AlabamaLibrul]

3. The entire media, with exception to last night's KO special, pretty much

[valerief]

18. I'm curious. Did someone use those exact words? I, of course, think

Dupnick is fantastic!

[AlabamaLibrul]

23. The suggestion is that

he "may have been" "worked up" over the whole thing and "using language he'll probably later retract". (because he was friends with Giffords and the judge)

You know, that kinda shit. He's telling the truth for once and must be discredited by all before the people catch on.

[valerief]

26. It was terrific he *reinforced* yesterday's comments with his comments today.

That guy is one of the few *in his right mind* on tv!

[awoke_in_2003]

76. that is good to know...

I was watching live when he called out talk radio and certain TV people- I couldn't believe it. Then he called Arizona the mecca of racial bigotry and intolerance- I was then flabbergasted.

[October]

98. Agreed. It's been more than a decade since I've heard such comments

Liberals and Democrats have been too timid to even state the facts.

My children were with me when the local news station aired a video clip of the Sheriff stating his thoughts in a mild manner. I am quite positive they've NEVER heard anyone criticize the "right" or and their talk show hosts.

Floored that the local station played the tape -- and didn't paraphrase or mute him.

[elleng]

69. He always tells the truth. People should check out his statements

about Arizona's crazy 'show me your papers' law. Seems to me he's a great sheriff.

[awoke_in_2003]

77. yes, he does seem to be great...

he called them like he saw them- you have to respect that.

[ashling]

68. This evening CNN had Neil Boortz on to comment

today Howie Kurtz had some other rightie pundit on. Howie put down Keith's comment saying that he has said a few things from time to time ... of course the part of Keith's comment that they excerpted did not contain his mea culpa admitting just that!

[wtmusic]

4. Candy Crowley implied it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x152095

[spanone]

8. i suggest you read the op

[valerief]

15. I did. I thought someone on tv used the words 'over-the-top' following Dupnik's latest Q&A.

I suggest you don't jump to conclusions.

[Jackpine Radical]

24. The exact words were mine. I didn't put quotes around them.

They were my summary of the reactions to Dupnik's comments.

[valerief]

32. Thanks. Got it. Just curious. I can only watch one network at a time, so I wasn't sure. nt

[Jackpine Radical]

34. Actually, I'm not watching TV.

Never do.

[tblue37]

16. Candy Crowley on CNN said he wasn't in his right mind when he said what he

said, and suggested that he would think better of it when he calmed down.

[valerief]

19. OMG, Candy Crowley is a tool of the hate machine. nt

[Wednesdays]

37. That cat's been out of the bag, oh...around 10 years now.

:spank:

[Jackpine Radical]

45. …as I'm sure Valerie well knows.

But she, like I, decided to go green & save a few electrons by omitting the sarcasm thingie.

[MindandSoul]

100. Yes, she can be vicious in her "subtle, reasonable" way!

[barbtries]

54. candy crowley

can kiss my ass. she's the problem. jeezus.

[awoke_in_2003]

78. Yes, he was in his "right mind"...

if we could only all be so "right" (not political direction)

[Jackpine Radical]

30. I stole the list form another thread somewhere yesterday.

[defendandprotect]

57. We needed to see it -- thank you !!

[Divine Discontent]

80. I wouldn't have yelled if you said my DU name. I'm flattered you found it worthy of repost, I was

going to ask another DUer to repost the list again because I was busy modding, but saw you re-posted it with a great title to connect it to current events, good job.

The extremists must continue to be called out on their hate and denial that we heard from Palin about it. We need to never forget the attacks on us - like the shooter who killed at the Universalist Unitarian church in Knoxville Tennessee, and said he wanted to "kill liberals who are ruining the country"


my 2008 thread had a few comments.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3790402#3790746

Just some of the calls for violence against Democrats/Liberals, Gays, Pro-Choice, etc

Edited on Wed Aug-13-08 03:22 PM by themartyred
1. Rush Limbaugh: "I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus – living fossils – so we will never forget what these people stood for."

2. Senator Phil Gramm: "We're going to keep building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs."

3. Rep. James Hansen on Bill Clinton: Get rid of the guy. Impreach him, censure him, assassinate him."

4. John Derbyshire intimated in the National Review that because Chelsea Clinton had "the taint," she should "be killed."

5. Ann Coulter: "We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too."

6. Ann Coulter: "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."

7. Bill O'Reilly: "ll those clowns over at the liberal radio network, we could incarcerate them immediately. Will you have that done, please? Send over the FBI and just put them in chains."

8. Clear Channel radio host Glenn Beck said he was "thinking about killing Michael Moore" and pondered whether "I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it," before concluding: "No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out -- is this wrong?"


That's just SOME of the spewed filth of the hundreds of incidents where they've advocated violence towards liberals/Democrats, and these are just SOME of the better known repubs doing it - there's hundreds smaller swine of the GOP who've said the same.


There's plenty more of them out there, and even if you can just recall the discussion put it on this thread so we can see it as some people 100% don't believe this goes on, even people on this board.

Here's some other hate -

1. Mel Gibson on Frank Rich: "I want to kill him. I want his entrails on a stick. I want to kill his dog."

2. Fresno City Council Member Jerry Duncan in 2003 wrote in an email that police should "Cap" members of the Human Relations Commission and wrote, "If I had one dirty bomb and I could eliminate all the liberals in Fresno at once." When his comments became public, Duncan said "The response I have gotten from the public on this has been 100% supportive."

3. World Socialist newsletter about how "Republican Right prepares for violence"
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/nov2000/elec-n24.pdf

4. Shooter/Murderer wanted to "kill liberals who are ruining the country", had books of Hannity and other right wing GOPers who told they were doing such - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Knoxville_Unitarian_U...

5. Right winger backer and often a TV guest, Ted Nugent calling for violence -
http://vyan.blogspot.com/2007/08/nugent-calls-for-viole...
(some info obtained from http://www.preemptivekarma.com/archives/2007/07/dancing... )




K&R!

[Jackpine Radical]

93. I didn't use your name because I had lost track of you as the source.

Thanks--both for the list and for this post.

[October]

99. May I add...

That I saw this on DU, as well.

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2011/01/lets-get-this-straight.html


I'm so weary of the anger and hatred, and am glad to see this topic might (!) become part of our national political discourse.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

71. Trolls.

Trolls say that, that's who.

[butterfly77]

92. Fox right now..

on him 24/7 saying he is over the top and needs to control his rhetoric what rhetoric,he simply said what has been going on for years,and has been over the top since a black person was voted in as President.

No matter how much they pretend to tone down their rhetoric we already know they are liars we have been watching this for years now,they are just afraid. Did they listen when we told them how they were putting a target on our President. They were really hoping it would be him and we have plenty of evidence to prove it..

[wtmusic]

2. K&R nt

[malaise]

5. Freaking perfect

Rec

[hlthe2b]

6. That same media on what is being written on the left blogosphere

"Dupnik was over the top."


:mad: (see my point?)

[Jackpine Radical]

44. Sure, but if I worry about people distorting my message,

I will be putting out no messages. They can edit or twist anything, and have often done so, even with a minor-league commenter like me.

(See my point?)

[pinto]

7. Ha.... Good juxtaposition.

:thumbsup:

[WillyT]

9. HUGE K & R !!!

:kick:

[Odin2005]

10. Ha, you got me with the topic line!

:rofl:

[Rex]

11. Interesting, number 8 Glenn asks if he is wrong for wanting to murder

MM!!! WHERE ARE THE EDITORS AND RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE AT FOX...ahahahaha I know I kid. Fookers.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. Thank you. This is what I was looking for.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x150763

[emulatorloo]

13. Send this list to CNN.

Leave it to CNN to defend Hate Radio.

[Wednesdays]

38. Rug. Broom.

End of story.

[jkshaw]

14. Who said that Sheriff Dupnik was

"over the top," Jack? I don't doubt that someone said it, I just wondered who was the lunkhead who said it first.

[Jackpine Radical]

20. Jon Kyl said Dupnik's remarks were "inappropriate," for one.

[valerief]

21. There's no one more inappropriate than that asshat Kyl!!!! nt

[Wednesdays]

41. Interesting how a child was killed, a judge was killed, and several people wounded

...including a U.S. Congressperson.

And yet, the M$M focuses on how "over the top" someone's comments are. :puke:

[gtar100]

84. Good observation! Shows just how screwed up the MSM is.

A gunman kills and injures a crowd of people, including children, and they're worried about themselves. Why anyone would have any regard for what they have to say is beyond me. They are trash. I gave up on them a long time ago and only see them continue to sink deeper into their own shit day by day.

[RoccoR5955]

67. John Kyl is a huge piece of bovine fecal matter...

and that's not over the top!

[xchrom]

17. submit that to big ed, keith, rachel, -- anyone and everyone. nt

[Champion Jack]

22. K & goddam R

[Lint Head]

25. I sent Sheriff Dupnik an email thanking him for his words.

He represents a real American hero that speaks the truth. It's about damn time.

Her is his contact online info:
http://pimasheriff.org/contacts/

[valerief]

27. GREAT IDEA!!! I just sent my note of appreciation to him. nt

[postulater]

62. Thanks, I sent him one too.

[NBachers]

63. Thanks for that link. I contacted them and left a message of support and approval

[MrMickeysMom]

73. I did, too. Thanks for the link, Lint Head

[FailureToCommunicate]

95. Thanks! After your idea, I sent the sheriff's department this:

"This message is a thank you to Sheriff Dupnik. While I am extremely sorry for the terrible tragedy that has thrust you into media, I am grateful that you had the courage to speak plainly about why this shooting might have happened. The media is now spending time questioning your judgment around this. I say please do not be cowed by their stupidity. Keep speaking out. And thank you for again for standing up for reason and for what's right. And good luck in the difficult days ahead."


(Thanks Lint Head for the link!)

[riverwalker]

96. and I as well

The man is a true hero,

[Jackpine Radical]

28. It's the classic RW trick of burying the message by creating

a brouhaha about the messenger. Now everyone will be talking about whether Dupnik was overreacting rather than about what he said.

Same thing they did with Dan Rather and the Bush AWOL story.

[Enthusiast]

85. It is.

A classic RW trick that they employ every day to one degree or another.

[blondeatlast]

29. Superb, JR. k/r

:thumbsup:

[nashville_brook]

31. big howling K and R

:applause::applause::applause:

[moondust]

33. Finally, some sanity is restored.

:sarcasm:

[somone]

35. Great list

[socialist_n_TN]

36. Sounds to me like he wasn't "over the top".........

enough.

I hope this isn't the first shots of that civil war, but I am arming up.

[whatchamacallit]

39. K&R! n/t

[treestar]

40. I wonder that #3 should have resulted in some sort of prosecution

Of course they will all say they "just joking." Assholes.

[Wednesdays]

42. You don't remember? IOKIYAR!

:spank:

[renate]

43. Boy, I sure didn't expect to K&R this when I read the heading

But you are absolutely spot on.

:thumbsup:

[Fire1]

46. Over the top, my ass. He was ON POINT!! n/t

[awoke_in_2003]

79. "He was ON POINT!!"

yes, and better than any Labrador Retriever I have ever worked with.

[ScreamingMeemie]

47. Dupnik was absolutely correct and I hope they don't silence

him. Someone on "another site" already suggested a flesh wound. :( The country has gone mad.

[BrklynLiberal]

48. The truth is considered "over the top" by MSM these days...

They do not like to hear it....especially those that are paid to carry the RWingnut water...

[Barack_America]

49. K&R. nt

[Barack_America]

50. .

:kick:

[Barack_America]

51. .

:kick:

[CatWoman]

52. nother

:kick:

[devilgrrl]

53. Oh totally! The audacity of that man! Who does he think he is?

:sarcasm:

[defendandprotect]

55. And an FCC ignoring all of this ... but alarmed at the sighting of some part of a female breast --!

What absolute treason!

[seabeyond]

56. i was going to argue with you jack. instead, i will say..... thank you jack. nt

[kentuck]

58. "Is this wrong?" Beck actually said that??

He is in more need of help than Jared.

[Enthusiast]

86. No question Beck is in need

of mental health help.

[Swampguana]

59. Things like that shouldn't be said on air or in public

[geckosfeet]

60. "Great" list - in a manner of speaking. I am sure that a much more comprehensive

list could be compiled. It should then be sent to every government security agency so the investigations can begin.

It will also come in handy during campaign season.

[Barack_America]

64. You asked for a more comprehensive list?

Here ya go...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x580967

[geckosfeet]

90. Well - not asked as such. But I knew a ridiculously long list of hate rhetoric

could be assembled. And so it is.

Thanks for the link!

[Raine]

61. K & R nt

:kick: :thumbsup:

[Tx4obama]

65. More republican quotes

Palin: "don't retreat, instead- RELOAD!"

Jesse Kelly (Gifford's tea party opponent): "Get on target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly."

Michael Savage: "Only vigilance and resistance to this baby dictator, Barack Hussein Obama, can prevent the Khmer Rouge from appearing in this country"

Erick Ericksson: "At what point do the people ... march down to their state legislator's house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp?"

Sharron Angel: "If this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies."

Joyce Kaufman: "If ballots don't work, bullets will."

Michelle Bachmann: "Be armed and dangerous"

[AnnieBW]

66. Clarence Dupnik is my Hero!

New FB page:

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=173347046036318&id=137102173016574

[Historic NY]

70. The man has guts and is spot on correct.

[Swamp Rat]

72. Don't forget...

[bertman]

74. The only thing Glenn Beck could choke is his chicken. Great post. Rec. nt

[djp2]

75. Was watching CNN and

they cut the words about "talk show nutcases and some TV programs" out of their on-air replay of his comments.. Watch it again. My wife says the same words were cut out of the BBC news coverage.

[pnorman]

81. Thanks fha! great collection!

n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

82. K&R.

Concise. Thank you for compiling that cavalcade of ugliness.

[Imagevision]

83. Countless millions d-o-n-'t believe Dupnik was over-the-top.

[Lorien]

87. The real problem here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x154814

[upi402]

88. Like taking a sip from a firehose - keeping track of it all

They feel perfectly comfortable inciting murder. The media pushes this insanity and there is no rule of law in America - unless you are in possession of a joint or protest corporatism.

[1776Forever]

89. Thanks to Divine Discontent back in '08 for some of these! It hasn't gotten better!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3790402

[sellitman]

91. Someone should devote a site to RW Death Quotes.

Bet you could fill up pages.

[mikekohr]

97. Some voices of reason on FaceBook's Right Wing Extremist And Proud

http://www.facebook.com/RightWingExtremistAndProud?v=wall

Aaron Matheny:
I hope George Soros gets hit by a bus or gets cancer and dies real soon.... This guy is about the biggest Communist on the planet. Lead poisening would be too good for him.

Kirk Hamilton:
fucking communist i hate Obama's middle class hope mongering

Bryan Mondy:
Is it rude to call a homosexual a fag? Cause he just earned it.

Kevin Copeland:
Lets face reality, this man had no intention or desire to be an actual president. All he wanted was the to be the first BLACK president and all the pomp and circumstance liberals would give him for it, even though he has more white blood in him than jungle juice.

Dave Muehlenbein:
Nothing this un-white house has done is worth giggling about.

Rob Millette:
The way the Dems have been screwing this country over; that may be the only door they know. It's truly a shame we can't send them directly to jail where they belong for being traitors to this country.

Kayne Alexander:
Religion has no place in politics...except when discriminating against homos

Michael Gerardi :
There's good news and bad news about Tawana Sharpton's rally. The bad news: only 3000 showed up. The good news: three of them had jobs.

[Jennicut]

94. Dupnik is one of the most intelligent sheriffs I have ever seen.

And a straight talker. The media is crazy.

[Horse with no Name]

101. Hard to believe he is the neighbor to Crazy Arpaiho. n/t

[OmahaBlueDog]

102. K & R

[AllyCat]

103. I am aghast at how awful these people have been for YEARS

and now Dupnik is a nut. Nice list. Incomplete, but makes the point. These people are complete crackpots.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

104. Palin's "surveyor marks" cowardice

On Palin's Take Back the 20 Facebook page, where the targets are still displayed, is this text, emphasis added:

"<...> House members who voted in favor of Obamacare and represent districts that Senator John McCain and I carried during the 2008 election. <...> Gabrielle Giffords (AZ-8), <...>

We’ll aim for these races and many others. This is just the first salvo"

She announced it by tweeting the infamous "Don't retreat. Instead - RELOAD!"

Now her toadies are calling them "surveyor marks", unwilling to be responsible.

However, Palin herself called them "bullseyes" in November. Now she who wants to lead those who run off at the mouth constantly about "personal responsibility" is backpedaling as fast as she can.



(edited to add Facebook link)

[DemoTex]

105. "Dupnik" : new noun meaning a truth that all know, but many - predictably - deny.

Verb form: Dupniked, as in "looks like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, et.al., have been totally dupniked."

[Bernardo de La Paz]

106. Kelly (Rep opponent) wanted to take Giffords out too.

(edited for image)

Jesse Kelly (Rep. Gifford's opponent):

"Get on Target for Victory in November. Help remove Gabrielle Giffords from office. Shoot a fully automatic M16 with Jesse Kelly."

[texshelters]

107. Well done retort to the mainstream BS and lies

Peace,
Tex Shelters