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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:15 PM
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Sex Offender Gets Custody Of Girl
Sex Offender Gets Custody Of Girl

MACCLENNY, Fla. -- Family and friends held up signs in front of the Baker County courthouse Monday asking for the public's help in getting a nearly 4-year-old girl back after a judge granted custody of her to a sex offender.

Last week, the judge found that the law requires Miranda Coleman be turned over to her legal, but not biological, father, Donald Coleman, because he was married to her mother. Her mother died, and now her family is begging to get the girl back in their custody, saying she shouldn't be living with a man who's a registered sex offender.

Miranda's mother's family told WJXT-TV that they're worried about her well-being, and despite all the legal documents and arguments, they don't want people to forget that at the middle of all the debate and drama is an innocent young girl.

"We see her toys, and they're still in the same place," said Becky Graves, Miranda's aunt, while crying. "She doesn't wake up in the morning to tell us she loves us. She doesn't tell us she loves us before she goes to bed."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28593568/detail.html
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teenagebambam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:18 PM
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1. Lemme guess....Florida?
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:18 PM
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2. OK is this guy a dangerous sex offender, or a "busted john" sex offender
Florida slaps you with sex offender if you are, or have been caught seeing, a prostitute
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:19 PM
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3. the details
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 01:20 PM by Incitatus
Coleman had a relationship with Miranda's mother, Wanelle Coleman, years ago. He was 38 at the time, and she was just 14. Wanelle Coleman became pregnant and had Donald Coleman's child. Donald Coleman was charged with having sex with a minor and sent to jail.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:20 PM
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4. Not sure if that poses a threat to the daughter
It might - but it might not. One would need more info to make that determination.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:25 PM
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6. He was 38 and her mother was 14?......Not good...She should be taken away from him, IMO
if not now, at LEAST when she hits puberty.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:20 PM
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16. And what about the three other children?

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:43 PM
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20. None of the children should live with him, IMO.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 07:28 PM
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23. The child is not his biological daughter.
He is only considered a father because he was legally married to the mother. But this is not his biological child.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:23 PM
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5. What kind of sex offender is he?
A pedophile? Contact with a minor? Dating a 16 year old when he turned 18? Caught pissing in the bushes? What?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:56 PM
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8. he's a convicted pedophile.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:17 PM
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13. would it be OK if the gender was reversed ?
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:24 PM
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14. Would it be OK with you?
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:30 PM
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17. "Juvenal Father" would be court ordered to pay child support
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 03:32 PM by FreakinDJ
No it would not be ok with me - but there would be No public outcry either

In fact the "Juvenal Father" would be court ordered to pay child support once he turned 18 - and yes before you ask there are 100s if not 1000s of documented cases

The "Gender Role Reversal" was a Means Test to determine gender and legal bias. The judge in this case did pass the test.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:37 PM
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18. Who is "Juvenal Father"?
and do you mean "juvenile"?

I'm not familiar with the case, so I can't complain about the judge.

That being said, there are also MANY, MANY cases in which judges have sided with FATHERS.

even when there's been credible testimony to their abusiveness, sexual or otherwise.

In not a few of these cases, the mothers have "kidnapped" their children and gone into hiding to get

them away from their abusers.


I don't discriminate on the basis of gender when it comes to abuse of any kind.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:37 PM
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19. Delete. Dupe.n/t
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 05:44 PM by whathehell
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 06:24 PM
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22. My niece -- a non abusive, and non-custodial parent pays child support.
even though her salary is only about a third as much as her ex-husband's.
What's your point?

I think there WOULD be a "public outcry" against a boy staying with a

sexually abusive stepmother -- especially with the recent spate of sexually

abusive female teachers.

That being said, there are still FAR more

pedophile males preying on males AND females than the reverse.

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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 01:32 PM
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7. Reminds me of the School Teacher who had sex with 14 yr old boy
didn't she spend several sentences in jail only to eventually marry and have a child by the boy when he turned 18
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Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:03 PM
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9. 'Pedophiles' don't marry their victims as a general rule, because they AGE.
Which means no attraction would be present any longer; certainly not enough to justify fathering TWO more children. The 'pedophile' angle is nothing but pure salaciousness.

That said, the courts should give Miranda to her grandparents because the affair she was the result of was the CAUSE of the divorce proceedings, finalized or not. Mr. Coleman should, as the biological father, gain custody of HIS three children.

All my opinion of course, but I don't think you can find a more fair distribution/settlement than that without the hyperbole 'pedophile' spectre.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:11 PM
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10. Weird story.
Guy was 38, slept with a 14 year old, and got her pregnant. After serving his sentence, he was released, married the girl, and they had two more children together. The girls mother actually signed the papers allowing the marriage. Later in the marriage, the woman cheated on her husband, got pregnant, and had someone elses kid. Because they were married, the husband is the legal father. Now the mother died, and her family wants custody of all the kids.

I'm a bit on the fence with this one. He was OK with the four kids in the house before, but is suddenly a danger? The grandmother was OK with allowing him to marry her daughter, but is suddenly a danger to his own children now that she's passed away?

This whole story just doesn't sound right.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:14 PM
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11. We need to get Jerry Springer on the case
:)
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 02:16 PM
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12. Agreed - its not News - its a Jerry Springer episode
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 05:45 PM
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21. shouldn't he lose custody of those 2 other kids also if he is a threat
assuming they are not legally adults.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 07:32 PM
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25. At least the others are his biological children.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 07:33 PM by LisaL
The child in question is not related to him at all.
And he wasn't raising the child to begin with.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 07:32 PM
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24. He was not raising the little girl, she was raised by the
grandmother.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 03:02 PM
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15. He's a pedophile like these others
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 03:04 PM by saras
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiEC9XtZsS0">Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBD4EKoiY_M">Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj293l5w2MU">Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki97M73vbe8">Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIB9HIJH0Uc">Good Morning, Little Schoolgirl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVKKHcHKYa4">Mystic Eyes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCCjv2OiTxE">Mellow Yellow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8jPDdHd9y8">Cyprus Avenue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pte3Jg-2Ax4">Thirteen

(and far too many more to count - it's something about that fourteen number...)

and, of course, http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl/2006_4165928/underage-sex-tied-to-raunchy-music-study-suggests.html">THIS study, which seems glaringly obvious if any of us remember how strongly WE got our values and attitudes from our media and our peers. Think anyone in the sixties ever acted like a hippie because of all those hippie songs? How else did someone in Metaline Falls, Washington even KNOW about hippies?

Oh, and http://geeksofdoom.com/2008/12/16/7-unapologetic-rock-songs-about-jailbait/">this article about jailbait rock songs and http://popdose.com/lists-you-didnt-ask-for-statutory-rock-edition/">THIS article about jailbait rock songs
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