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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:00 PM
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Does anyone have quotes from the NRA condemning the Arizona shooting?
The NRA slithers into it's hidey hole until someone mentions the key words: Stricter gun control" laws..then they come screaming out of the dark hole screaming 2nd amendment, good gun control is using two hands bla bla bla...

I am not anti gun, I am in favor of gun control laws. I am against these gutless, tough-talking conservative "representatives" and their glad handlers who come up with these tough talk catch phrases that magically is repeated by every conservative commentator in seconds...tough talk coming from someone who never served this country.

Hey NRA Leadership! You can still have "balls" you can still be "manly" if you come forward, denounce this SENSELESS attack on innocent American citizens and pledging to help draft legislation that helps keep weapons out of the hands of crazy right and left-fringe nut-cases who take these catch phrases to heart AND ACT ON THEM.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:01 PM
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1. wayne lapierre is probably in his bunker hiding
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:03 PM
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2. I have no doubt they will condemn it. What is more outrageous is the politicians and media who have
been propagating the hate for years, now coming out with crocodile tears saying how sad they are, when they have blood on their hands


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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:03 PM
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3. you're kidding, right?
The NRA will only pop up if someone threatens to control the bazooka they want to buy so they can go rabbit hunting using RPGs.
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Brilliantrocket Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:05 PM
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4. What sort of legislation?

Anything that would limit the types of weapons, magazines or ammo? Nope never again kthxbi.

How do we keep the weapons away from only nutcases?
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:05 PM
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5. FWIW: their statement is on their homepage.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 02:10 PM by aikoaiko
http://home.nra.org/#/home


edited to add: The NRA worked with Democrats to increase the chances of denying mentally ill folks access to firearms purchased from licensed gun dealers after the VA Tech shooting.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4735780.html
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:17 PM
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32. And I notice that the NRA statement is more tasteful than what's on the
front page of the Brady Campaign site - no politics, no cashing in, just condolences...
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gpcarpenter Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:06 PM
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6. NRA statement
Yes...there is a statement on the NRA homepage, it reads...

Statement from the NRA on the Tucson shooting

Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this senseless tragedy, including Representative Gabrielle Giffords, and their families during this difficult time. We join the rest of the country in praying for a quick recovery of those injured.

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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:12 PM
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10. And they are willing to work with reprsentatives to make it
difficult for people to purchse weapons? Before you go ntshit crazy...I m a gun owner: 9mm semi auto handgun. 30-30 lever action rifle, .357 magnum.

I never felt it necessary to take it to a Republican rally open caryor concealed. I never felt it necessary to take it and kill or attempt to kill a politician I disagreed with.

The NRA needs to stop apologizing and take a pro active step in helping stop the violence instead of financing politicians who tell us to "take aim" to "reload" and "take somone out"

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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:48 PM
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23. It is difficult to purchase weapons.
What we need is a real mental health system. The NICS (instant background check) blocks people with a record of mental illness who are a danger to themselves and others.

No record = no block. No amount of new gun control laws will change that. We need real and comprehensive public mental health.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:15 PM
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31. I was going to suggest
writing the NRA and asking your questions, but if you're too lazy to even look at their main page for the answer to your OP......
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:12 PM
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30. Two sentences.
A man with deep and documented psychological problems, whom the military deemed unfit for service, purchased a gun without any kind of legal hitch. For a group that has done its level best to oppose, eliminate, or at the very least shorten waiting periods and hamstring background checks, I think more should be expected.
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:06 PM
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7. ha, they are celebrating. (NRA)
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:10 PM
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:12 PM
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11. And pray tell, who are those "who want to grab our guns?"
hmmmm?
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Pancho Sanza Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:22 PM
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13. "I have a little list..."
It's a Gilbert & Sullivan reference, and quite apropos.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:24 PM
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14. Haven't ever been to the GUNS forum here at the DU eh?
Plenty of vitriol against the 2nd Amendment there, drop by.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:19 PM
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:26 PM
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15. Visit with the "only cops should have guns" members in the GUNS forum,
I'm sure you'll have some passionate replies for them too.
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Pancho Sanza Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:27 PM
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Oh, dear...I did not say anyone was about to DO it, sweetie but you can't deny there are lots of
folks who would take them in a NY minute if they had the authority and/or power. As for being in prison, I've owned guns for over 60 years and never had an incident with any of them and never been arrested but we ignore the words of Niemoller at our own peril; I am absolutely certain of that.
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Pancho Sanza Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:07 PM
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8. If you had bothered to check at www.nra.com you would have seen their condemnation
it's right there on the front page...
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darkstar3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:05 PM
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27. I don't see condemnation.
I see a simple statement designed to hit just the right political tone of contrition and sorrow while at the same time avoiding anything of import. They are not condemning the gunman. They are not condemning the fact that a mentally ill military reject managed to legally purchase a gun. They are simply saying that they share some of the emotions that people outside of their group are experiencing right now.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:19 PM
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33. Maybe you should apply for a job there.
Change-from-within and all that ya know?

Sorry, my apologies, just really could care less what the NRA or Brady has to say right now, neither one had jack to do with current events.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:27 PM
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16. Too lazy to go their fucking website? Here it is - all the quotes you want.
http://home.nra.org/classic.aspx

That was really fucking easy.

Too bad you look a fool, now, when you could have spent a microsecond doing some actual research.

We're liberals - we're supposed to be the ones who don't drop idiotic canards without doing some research first.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:28 PM
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17. Be sure to stop by Brady.org
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:02 PM
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25. Oh, my - the Brady site press release is full of bullshit, obfuscation, lies, and crap.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:12 PM
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29. It's unusual how Brady and NRA keep "status" in this day and age.
Over 80,000,000 gun owners in this country but only 4,000,000 members in the NRA, yet Anti-2nd types look at the NRA as some kind of juggernaut.

Brady on the other hand has maybe 100,000 or so subscribers but Anti-2nd types think they (Brady) are the cure-all.


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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 02:38 PM
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18. I love the Fail in this thread.
It's indicative and another glowing example of the inability of the gun control lobby and gun control supporters to accomplish anything.

Keep up the "good work", guys... it only makes our job easier. B-)
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:05 PM
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19. Um, what is your "job"?
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:18 PM
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20. As a longtime gun owner, 2nd amendment advocate and NRA...
and GOAL member... doing my part by working against those who would enact more gun control legislation, and by supporting legislative and court actions that would repeal exiting gun control laws.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:43 PM
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21. Lose The Gun Rights Swagger---You're No Longer Entitled To It... (n/t)
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Brilliantrocket Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:45 PM
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22. How so?

Rights don't go away just because some people misuse them.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 03:54 PM
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24. Lose the Pol Pot swagger, it's
unbecoming in a civilized society.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:04 PM
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26. It wasn't always an easy job, ya'know.
The emails... letter writing... phone calls... meetings... attending hearings... brain storming on blogs and forums... etc.

The results weren't always positive (especially living in backwards state like MA), but when we did score a victory, it made all that work worthwhile.

So... yeah, I'm entitled to "swagger"; which is something the gun control crowd can only wish for.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:12 PM
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35. I support the NRA *and* the ACLU because I think that ALL of the Constitution is worth defending.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 07:13 PM by Rabrrrrrr
it's a hell of a basis of government, IMO.

Though I wish the NRA would get more intelligent people in charge, I'm glad they're there because as much as the ACLU is fucking awesome and one of the most patriotic groups we have in this country, they don't seem to be too concerned with the 2nd amendment.

So, thank you for all your work!

And old as it is, the kalishnakitty is still fucking awesome to see! :thumbsup:
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:33 PM
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38. Quite honestly...
there are/were times when the frustration, weariness, anger, time, etc got to me and I was tempted to move to a freer state (NH, ME VT), but then I sobered up, stuck to my stubbornness and said to myself "fuck that... they ain't getting rid of me this easy". :smoke:

Mind you... I'm speaking as a resident of one of the most anti-gun states in the country; as such, I/we have our work cut out for us, and we've been doing pretty good as of late.

Gov. Deval Patricks 1 gun a month plan never made it to the floor, as did his legislation that would have resulted in the closure of many gun clubs/ranges.

As far as the NRA is concerned?

Well, at the state level they haven't exactly been helpful in MA.

GOAL has done all the footwork and knocking on doors there.

We'd be seriously fucked if not for their effort.

Yeah... in some instances (the NRA), they've gone over the top in later years, but, they do get things done which is what I'm paying them for (at least at the federal level).

If they could get rid/oust some of the lunatic shriekers like LaPierre, Nugent, etc, it would help public opinion some (well... maybe).

No organized effort is without it's faults (even my union, which has endorsed Republican candidates in the past).

K-Kitty? what's not to like?

She's hot... she's happening... she get's some people here panties all knotted up in their ass crack.


My Mossberg 500...



And my K-Kitty t shirt... just like this one... :smoke:

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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:06 PM
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28. delete wrong forum nt
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 04:07 PM by mix
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 04:28 PM
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34. I think it would be great if DU got rid of the Guns forum
Especially after yesterday's events.
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:38 PM
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37. Do you really?
Do you then think it would be great if the internet got shut off too, what with all the hate speech going on for...years...now?


Jeebus.

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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:40 PM
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39. I'm sure you'd like all those shooting-related/gun-control threads popping up in GD all the time.
That's the main reason they created the Guns forum, to have a place to contain all the shooting-related/gun-control threads, so they didn't spam the General Discussion forum all the time. Perhaps you'd prefer if gun control debate was off-limits altogether?
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 09:49 PM
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40. Sure... why not?
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 09:50 PM by -..__...
Then whenever a firearms related situation occurs, it can be posted in GD and/or LBN without someone posting "To the Gungeon in 1... 2 ...3".

No more clever quips from the enlightened responding with "Denizens of the "Gungeon" responding in 1... 2 ...3...".

See. I like it here right where it is.

No need to bury the issue in some God forsaken place where only the brave and adventurous dare trod.

Besides... where would all the anti's go to grieve and wring there hands if not for "THAT place"?

Yep... lets get rid of the "Gungeon".

I'm all for it.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:15 PM
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36. Media control! Fuck gun control at this point
The media incited this assassination attempt.

CNN and Fox will call for more security and less freedom of assembly - watch for it.
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