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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:27 AM
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The Speech Obama Should Have Been Giving for the Past Two Years

The Speech Obama Should Have
Been Giving for the Past Two Years


"The money to run the Government comes from taxes ... If the national income
continues to decline, then the Government cannot run without going into the
red. The only way to keep the Government out of the red is to keep the
people out of the red. And so we had to balance the budget of the
American people before we could balance the budget of the
national Government ... To balance our budget ... would
have been a crime against the American people ... We
accepted the final responsibility of Government, after
all else had failed, to spend money when no one else
had money left to spend."

– Franklin D. Roosevelt


The Speech Obama Gives Instead



"Government has to start living within its means, just like families do. We
have to cut the spending we can’t afford so we can put the economy on
sounder footing, and give our businesses the confidence they need
to grow and create jobs."
– Barack Obama

the rest:
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/must-read/fdr-address-at-forbes-field
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:30 AM
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1. Sorry my Recommend didn't register - the Obama-love-at-any-cost people are here already
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:11 AM
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12. Progressive threads always garner more recs than unrecs.
Take a look at the recs now.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:33 AM
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2. FDR was a centrist. Socialism was okay, back when it was centrist.
Socialism was actually CENTRIST for it's day. I know it's true b/c the far left attacked FDR for not being far left enough.

Socialism was okay back when it was centrist- which explains why it was okay to support it then but not okay to support it now.

Obama should be inspired by FDR's pragmatism, not by his rabble rousing socialism (which was really centrist for it's day)
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:34 AM
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3. Huge K&R
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:37 AM
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4. Other speeches Obama gives
This

It’s no use pretending that what has obviously happened has not in fact happened. The upper 1 percent of Americans are now taking in nearly a quarter of the nation’s income every year. In terms of wealth rather than income, the top 1 percent control 40 percent. Their lot in life has improved considerably. Twenty-five years ago, the corresponding figures were 12 percent and 33 percent. One response might be to celebrate the ingenuity and drive that brought good fortune to these people, and to contend that a rising tide lifts all boats. That response would be misguided.

While the top 1 percent have seen their incomes rise 18 percent over the past decade, those in the middle have actually seen their incomes fall. For men with only high-school degrees, the decline has been precipitous—12 percent in the last quarter-century alone. All the growth in recent decades—and more—has gone to those at the top. In terms of income equality, America lags behind any country in the old, ossified Europe that President George W. Bush used to deride. Among our closest counterparts are Russia with its oligarchs and Iran. While many of the old centers of inequality in Latin America, such as Brazil, have been striving in recent years, rather successfully, to improve the plight of the poor and reduce gaps in income, America has allowed inequality to grow.

<...>


This


If we choose to keep those tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires, if we keep the tax break for corporate jet owners, if we choose to keep tax breaks for oil and gas companies that are making hundreds of billions of dollars, then that means we’ve got to cut some kids off from getting a college scholarship. That means we have to stop funding certain grants for medical research. That means that food safety may be compromised. That means that Medicare has to bear a greater part of the burden. These are the choices we have to make...

The Republicans say they want to reduce the deficit. Every single observer who’s not an elected official or politican says we can’t reduce our deficit in the scale and scope we need to without having a balanced approach that looks at everything. Democrats have to accept some painful spending cuts that hurt some of our consituencies that we may not like. And we’ve shown a willingness to do that for the greater good...

If you are a wealthy CEO or hedge fund manager in America right now, your taxes are lower than they’ve ver been. They’re lower than they’ve been since the 1950s. And you can afford it. You’ll still be able to ride on your corporate jet. You’ll just have to pay a little more...My believe is that the Republican leadership in Congress will hopefully sooner rather than later come to the conclusion that they need to make the right decisions for the country, that everybody else has been willing to move off their maximalist position. They need to do the same. My expectation is that they’ll do the responsible thing.


This

The truth is, you can’t solve our deficit without cutting spending. But you also can’t solve it without asking the wealthiest Americans to pay their fair share – or without taking on loopholes that give special interests and big corporations tax breaks that middle-class Americans don’t get.

It’s pretty simple. I don’t think oil companies should keep getting special tax breaks when they’re making tens of billions in profits. I don’t think hedge fund managers should pay taxes at a lower rate than their secretaries. I don’t think it’s fair to ask nothing of someone like me when the average family has seen their income decline over the past decade – and when many of you are just trying to stretch every dollar as far it it’ll go.

We shouldn’t put the burden of deficit reduction on the backs of folks who’ve already borne the brunt of the recession. It’s not reasonable and it’s not right. If we’re going to ask seniors, or students, or middle-class Americans to sacrifice, then we have to ask corporations and the wealthiest Americans to share in that sacrifice. We have to ask everyone to play their part. Because we are all part of the same country. We are all in this together.


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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:41 AM
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5. it's pointless. when he says what they *should* want to hear it's just "pretty speeches"
i admire your perserverance though.

:hi:
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:44 AM
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6. What he *says* and what he *should do* before and after he *says* things are not always the same.
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 10:54 AM by Dr Fate
Sometimes it's just "pretty speeches" that we *should* want to hear, except we already heard it. Then after we expect it to happen we are told "he never said that."

I admire his perserverance though.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:47 AM
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7. So he is not going to touch the big 3 -and he is going to fight to end tax cuts for the top 1%.
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 10:52 AM by Dr Fate
That's what I got out of the speeches.

This is not just what he says he believes in- these are things that he will fight for and accomplish.

But seriously, I'm sure I'll be told later that I must have misinterpreted his goals and otherwise read his intentions incorrectly.


Were these speeches from before, or after he extended the Bush tax cuts to the Koch Brothers?



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Dept of Beer Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:29 AM
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13. All his speeches, and his apologsistas clapping,

will be pointless if he decides to touch the third rail.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:36 AM
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14. those don't take away from the times he advances Republican talking points
With his "government must tighten its belt" and "reducing the deficit is important" themes Obama already concedes the rhetorical ground to the Republicans. Then he proposes plans that are 80% spending cuts and 20% tax increases - STARTING the negotiation by already meeting the Republicans 80% of the way.

You know what JR Bush said? "Yes, I'm worried about the deficit. I'm worried about the deficit, but I'm more worried about the fellow looking for work. I'm worried about the deficit, but I'm more worried about the single mom who's worried about putting food on the table for her children, so she could find work. And that's where the focus of this administration is going to be." May 12, 2003

Bush pretended to put jobs ahead of the deficit. Yet Obama puts the deficit ahead of jobs.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 10:51 AM
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8. what a helluva difference
One is a leader and one is a follower..Thom Hartmann could have said this

:applause: :applause: :patriot:
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:07 AM
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9. This sums it up perfectly. Thank you.
What a tragedy! Mr. Obama is a "new Democrat" I suppose. I don't like "new" Democrats. They seem like they are to much to the right of "old" Republicans. Mr. Obama's failure to fight for the vast majority of the people is going to ruin this country just as much as Mr. Bush and his cronies have, imo. Sad, sad, sad, that this is what we have to settle for in this best of all possible Democratic party.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:09 AM
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10. this from a courageous leader
big difference
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 11:10 AM
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11. "Shared Sacrifice Helps Job Creators!"
:puke:

Wealth, Income, and Power
by G. William Domhoff
September 2005 (updated July 2011)

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

"Work Will Make You Free!"
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:41 AM
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16. Thanks for that link
Looks like my reading list just got a lot bigger.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:49 PM
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15. Damn
k/r
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