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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:23 PM
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So why is the Democratic President playing along?
Why?

I mean this is the party of the people right?

WRONG.

What we are watching is the rise of a new Democratic Coalition, and it does not include us. This happens every so often in US History. If the pattern holds, the Rs, who are already fracturing, will see the rise of a new POPULIST party. You don't believe me? Study the 1840s and 1850s Pay close attention to the Whigs, who became just as crazee as the Rs... and study what happened to the Dems and HOW the Republican party rose.

As they say... history does have patterns... but this is why the Dems are betraying their base. We are truly fully no longer the base. Either we retake it from the DLC... or wait for the process to finish, or both.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:28 PM
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1. yup-- it's not the party of the New Deal any longer...
...and it's rapidly becoming the guardian of all things corporate and status quo. It's doing the work of the robber barons, not the people.
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SSDA Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:30 PM
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2. We are being played for fools.
BTW - Goldman Sachs, AIG,UBS, GE, JP Morgan, BOA, Citi, disapprove of this message.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:32 PM
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3. It's the big tent Corporatist Party with Dems and Repukes serving the same masters.
Edited on Wed Jul-20-11 12:32 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
Dems are a drop more compassionate, but not by much.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:52 PM
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12. Why the process will inevitably lead third party populist way
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:32 PM
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4. Kinda interesting: Senate GOP leadership aide: Obama killed 'Gang of Six' by embracing it[
Not the first time this kind of thing has happened.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/20/996601/-Senate-GOP-leadership-aide:-Obama-killed-Gang-of-Six-by-embracing-it?detail=hide&via=blog_1

ED JUL 20, 2011 AT 08:40 AM PDT
Senate GOP leadership aide: Obama killed 'Gang of Six' by embracing it
by Jed Lewison

Mike Allen writes:

--A Senate Republican leadership aide emails with subject line “Gang of Six”: “Background guidance: The President killed any chance of its success by 1) Embracing it. 2) Hailing the fact that it increases taxes. 3) Saying it mirrors his own plan.”

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I'm not sure whether to say thank you to that leadership aide, or to say fuck you. I guess, both.


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Link to politico story Jed Lewison quotes:

http://www.politico.com/playbook/0711/playbook1485.html

DU thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x715717
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:34 PM
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5. True belevers, will never disappoint.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:36 PM
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8. yep n/t
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:35 PM
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6. I agree except that this isn't new, it's at least 20 years old.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:45 PM
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10. The process started right after Carter lost
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:36 PM
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7. being part of the base feels like getting stepped on like a rug all the time.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:38 PM
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9. He's drivin' the Third Way highway to Palookaville.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:49 PM
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11. It's election season and the repukes will hypocritically use the deficit
as a major election issue(as they are doing now - they know no shame). It will be an issue for every seat next year. The president is trying to get ahead of it and take it off the table as much as he can.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:54 PM
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14. If we default this will change the dynamic
In ways nobody can predict. The kids have the codes and the detonator. It's just an M80, really. Expect this is a full sized nuclear device.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:03 PM
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18. It bit of hyperbole, no?
:shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:08 PM
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20. No, defaulting will really not be good in ways most in this country
Especially tea parties, don't comprehend. Looks at other countries that have defaulted. Add we are a reserve currency. I could go on...Exceptionalism is 'bout to byte us on ass.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:04 PM
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19. It'll be much worse for him if he endorses cuts to SS, Medicare, Medicaid and cutting
tax deductions for the middle class...
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:32 PM
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26. Sadly, it's election season every day of every year - it never ends
If we only had a system that didn't start campaigning the day after an election and didn't require billions to get elected again, there might be a chance to actually have a democracy in this country - it's the same for both Democrats and Republicans.

Look at the obscene money President Obama will need to raise and spend in order to be re-elected...
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 08:48 PM
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29. So true on all counts. nt
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:54 PM
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13. What Democratic president?
That's only what we THOUGHT we elected in 2008. Surprise!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:55 PM
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15. Some of us knew better and said such
But yes he is a democrat. The switch is almost complete.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 12:56 PM
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16. He's playing to his base
Corporate masters, same as Dubya's "haves and have mores".
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:02 PM
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17. Precisely.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:12 PM
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21. I wish the Republicans WOULD go ahead and split
into the Country Clubbers and the proto fascists. That would make it SO much easier for the Dems to split into the Country Clubbers and a worker's party. Not anywhere NEAR as much of a chance at a President Bachmann then.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:13 PM
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22. Alas the split will be between the populist country clubbers
And the proto fascists.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:14 PM
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23. He is not 'playing along', he is leading.

But you are right, this is not a party of the people, there is none presently.

Dunno about 'populists', too flighty, too apt to be compromised. Gonna take organization, discipline, solid theory, gonna take Reds.
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:24 PM
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24. Will someone tell me Why I should keep
Trusting this Pres?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 01:27 PM
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25. I can't.
:shrug:
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 02:39 PM
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27. Agreed
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philly_bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-11 03:24 PM
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28. Damn, I wish I wasn't so ignorant of American history.
Your references just go over my head!

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