All they are doing is stealing the 2.4 trillion dollar surplus Social Security has accumulated

[Tony_FLADEM]

over the years. They took the money over the years to pay for other things and now they have agreed not to pay it back. That's all this is about.

[humblebum]

1. Can you provide a little more information or sources? nt

[Turbineguy]

2. Quick!

Here's an alternative: privatize it!

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[gratuitous]

3. +1

They stole it fair and square over the last 30 years, and since people have come looking for it, the thieves are using every trick in the book to divert attention and avoid being caught with the greedy hands in the till.

[tnlefty]

10. +1

"stole it fair and square" did make me laugh for a moment. Thanks. :hi:

[Cleita]

4. Truer words were never spoken.

Social Security has a 2.6 trillion dollar surplus that they are getting their hands on to pay off the Bush tax cuts extension and the trillions they have spent on wars. They have to get the money someplace so that money is sitting there unprotected by Al Gore's lock box. Social Security never contributed to the deficit.

[slipslidingaway]

5. knr nt

[Blue_In_AK]

6. The way I understand it

(and I could be wrong), is they've been "borrowing" it for years, and now it's part of the trillions of dollars the government owes. They want us to just forget that that debt exists.

[leveymg]

7. No shit. But, they would say, "upping the leverage" or "all in." In other words, gambling it away

and making some of themselves rich in the process, and to hell with the rest of us.

It's a casino. They're the Mafia. They want the rest of what they can grab. Now, or else.

[Kaleva]

8. They didn't have to steal it as it's theirs to begin with. It never was ours.

When Congress enacted SS, it reserved the right to change and modify SS anyway they saw fit and the Supreme Court upheld that view in 1960.

However, I do think this is all about the 2.4 trillion SS Trust Fund and the 100 billion plus in interest that is paid to the Trust Fund.

[Fire Walk With Me]

9. Remember when Bushie spent six entire months touring the country, saying SS was in imminent danger

and that we had to give it to Wall Street to keep it from collapsing?

Same old shit. Fuck the greedy.

[Dappleganger]

11. You're right.

[Rex]

12. True, didn't people see this coming when they took away those

things people lived and died for - pensions? When that happened, it was the first of many downfalls for The People. We seem to be in freefall now.

[Change Happens]

13. This issue drives me crazy...Yes they (we or our elected officials) stole the money, but how

would have ever gotten that money back, I know on paper is owed back to the American people, but from whom? And how do we go about getting back? and how long does it take us/the government/politicians...etc. to save that much money?

[Kaleva]

14. Most of our federal debt is money we owe ourselves.

[guitar man]

17. As far as I'm concerned

It is owed by those that Boner likes to call the "job creators". Just about every bit of major economic policy and legislation for the last 30 years has been tailored for the benefit of the very few wealthiest to the detriment of the rest of us. They've gotten rich beyond their wildest dreams in the resulting economic environment .
How do we get it back? To quote Malcolm X. "By any means necessary".

[lunasun]

15. Bush sure wrote a lot of IOUs to us...... didnt he?????Iraq my ass

[Rex]

16. I blame Reagan, Bush Sr. and GWB...almost all the debt comes

from their criminal activity...er serving in the White House.

[DCKit]

18. Geez, who knew. I'm an oracle. nt