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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 02:35 AM
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Poll question: Should we pull all aid $$$ to countries that persecute LGBT people?
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 02:36 AM by FLAprogressive
I say yes....I don't want my tax dollars going to countries that persecute LGBT people. I don't really care what the country's situation is.....
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 02:36 AM
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1. Does that include us?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 02:38 AM
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2. Our money is already gone, isn't it?
:shrug:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 02:40 AM
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3. Pretty much.
Not much left to withhold.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 02:43 AM
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4. ouch!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:26 AM
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7. What laws, in the U.S., make being gay illegal and impose punishment
on GLBT folks for being gay?
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Cool Logic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:15 AM
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5. Since we are out of $$$, we should pull aid to all other countries.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:24 AM
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6. No. Innocent people starving because we pull aid, isn't the answer.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:26 AM
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8. what are we giving the money for ? do you mean cut off all aid
or just the money that goes directly to the govt ?

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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:39 AM
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15. Because Islamic countries are the only ones that persecute LGBT people, right?

:eyes: Bigoted ignorance.


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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:33 AM
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26. they are not the only ones
But kindly tell me how they do in Iran, Pakistan, or Saudi Arabia?
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:41 AM
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10. There's enough need in the US that the US should be able to find
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 04:42 AM by Obamanaut
ways to spend that same money IN the US.

Not dropping bombs on people would help a lot of citizens in other countries get along better.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:43 AM
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11. Should we pull our aid $$$ from countries
that persecute anyone? - yes.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:02 AM
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12. Yes.
If being gay is illegal in that country or if that country tolerates persecution of GLBT people, their government should not receive aid. This rule should not apply, however, in cases such as disasters.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:10 AM
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13. So should we pull all aid to countries that persecute women? How about Christians or
B'hai?
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:20 AM
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14. Short answer, yes.
We should use our money as a tool to get people not to do things we don't approve of, and the reverse as well.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:27 AM
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24. Isn't that sort of the definition of Imperialism?
imperialism n. The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:18 PM
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29. I just think of it as being principled.
There are some people's behaviors we should not put up with, whether or not we want something from them.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:15 AM
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19. Countries like Iran don't persecute gays because they don't have any...
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:38 AM
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21. Yes, because every time they find any,
they execute them.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:45 AM
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22. Hmm, Ahmadinejad left that part out...imagine that..
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indurancevile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:44 AM
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16. no, we should pull american fundie missionaries out of those countries.
because they're the main instigators of this crap.
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CrazyBob Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:31 AM
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25. Amen to that! - nt
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:09 AM
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17. No, because the children aren't to blame and don't deserve to starve.
When we try to punish adults, the ones who end up hurting the most are innocent kids, whether here (welfare reforms) or overseas (foreign aid). I know that we can't take care of every child on earth, but the thought that there are kids out there who are eating US-provided aid food, and that we might take that AWAY from them, just destroys my heart. I could never support it, even though I'm gay. *sigh*
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:11 AM
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18. We don't pull aid to countries which persecute everyone..
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:17 AM
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20. Countries that persecute anyone other than criminals should be shunned
Cutting off the purse strings is the fastest and best way to get anyone's attention.
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CrazyBob Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:46 AM
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23. I cant believe anyone voted YES for this-nt
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 06:46 AM by CrazyBob
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zoosareprisons Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 07:34 AM
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27. All humanitarian aid is suspect
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2010/11/the-moral-hazards-of-humanitarian-aid-what-is-to-be-done.html#ixzz14rXaMpLi

A pretty good article on the topic of humanitarian aid.

"As Aryeh Neier, President of the Open Society Institute (a project of George Soros, who is also the chief bankroller of Human Rights Watch), writes in his letter, humanitarianism is an industry. So we should examine it and hold it to account as such."
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:13 AM
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28. No 'single issue' diplomacy, IMO.
I think we should deplore homophobic governments and homophobic laws and homophobic statements.

But we should base our aid (mostly) on our interests in that country.
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:18 PM
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30. kick
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 12:20 PM
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31. You have some particular country in mind, don't you?
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