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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:11 PM
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Are Republicans Committing Treason?
Snips below -- full article at AlterNet

This party was known as the Republican Party, and while one might have disagreed with them on their policy prescriptions to cure any particular US ill, one could at least see some logic in their beliefs and understand that they - with some obvious exceptions from time to time (ahem, Joseph McCarthy, ahem) - were doing what they thought was right for the United States of America.

Today, this once respectable organization has turned into nothing so much as a collective id the size of a David Vitter Pampers shopping spree. When facing changes to this nation that make them uncomfortable, they choose national hate. When facing ideological worship versus the greatness of the US, the former always wins the day. When facing a choice of what is good for the US or their personal bank accounts, they inevitably go with the latter.

Every. Single. Time.

In simple terms: We, the people of the United States, are the maid. The GOP is Arnold Schwarzenegger. Any questions?


(What spot on imagery!) :rofl:



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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:15 PM
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1. No, and we should stop throwing around this hyperbolic comment...
Treason has a very specific meaning (which is why there's a specific WORD for it), and however irresponsible the Republicans are acting, that's not what they're doing.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:19 PM
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4. Especially since so many DEMS will come down on their side of things.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 01:19 PM by Dr Fate
If we accuse the GOP of treason, then we have to accuse the centrist DEMS of the same.

I'm not falling for THAT liberal trap!

;)
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:19 PM
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5. Reagan committed treason.
That was what the Iran-Contra scandal was about. We watched him do it, and we watched the hearings on it, and nothing was done about it. It has continued, and is as true now as then.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:15 PM
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2. The answer is yes........
and they have been for a very long time. Nixon, the Sainted Ronnie (who should have been impeached)....and on it goes.

I have wondered why the GOP is still around when it keeps getting more blatant about it's treason.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:18 PM
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3. Absofuckinglutely!
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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:24 PM
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6. The link doesn't work for me? n/t
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:32 PM
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10. Nor for me..........
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tpsbmam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:39 PM
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13. Hmmmmm, it just worked for me. Here it is again posted
as a direct link: http:/www.alternet.org/story/151711/are_republicans_committing_treason

Hope that one works!

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fredamae Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 02:33 PM
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14. Nope, but thanks for trying! :)
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:25 PM
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7. Do yourself a favor and buy a dictionary.
You'll post more intelligently if you understand the meaning of the words you are using.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:31 PM
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9. Treason doesn't confine itself to high treason;
which is attempting to overthrow the government of a sovereign nation to which one belongs.

A violation of allegiance to one's state is also treason, and that is the treason, ongoing, of the republican party. They are governing, and they seem to have no allegiance to anything but their own pocketbooks.

And yes, that is treasonous.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:05 PM
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16. They have a fundamentally different view of government's proper role...
And the direction we should take. We may disagree; we may find their views abhorrent, but is not accurate to call them treasonous. As far as allegiance to one's own pocketbook is concerned, do you think either party has clean hands?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:08 PM
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17. If they manage to privatize ALL the profit, and stick the public
with ALL the debt, then they have successfully dismantled the Republic.
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:39 PM
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18. Your post makes no sense
By definition, we are stuck with the debt; it's ours and it was built up over decades. Both parties have borrowed heavily at times. To my knowledge, SS privatization has not come up in the current negotiations.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:39 PM
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12. Then again, it would be interesting to see a Republican explain it for himself.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 01:41 PM by Dr Fate
The old LBJ syle "make them deny it" as opposed to the New DEM "make their counter argument for them."

A hypothetical Democrat could go on TV and say- "...this action amounts to a kind of treason..." (which is what the OP meant)-then make the Republican oppponent explain how pro-American, patriotic, wholesome and "non-treasonous" their position really is.

The real problem here is that many centrist DEMS will come down on the side of these Republicans, so no one is about to essentialy accuse themselves of treason.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:27 PM
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8. Yes
All those ALEC bastards are conspiring to commit treason.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 01:34 PM
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11. Treason, no...
Sedition, you betcha!
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:03 PM
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15. If so, that would differ from the past 30 years just how?
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