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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:44 PM
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Barack Obama is gutting the core principles of the Democratic party --
Barack Obama is gutting the core principles of the Democratic party

The president's attacks on America's social safety net are destroying the soul of the Democratic party's platform

EXCERPTS ONLY --

This week, even as GOP leaders offered schemes to raise the debt ceiling with no cuts, the White House expressed support for the Senate's so-called "gang of six" plan that includes substantial cuts in those programmes.

Therein lies one of the most enduring attributes of Obama's legacy: in many crucial areas, he has done more to subvert and weaken the left's political agenda than a GOP president could have dreamed of achieving. So potent, so overarching, are tribal loyalties in American politics that partisans will support, or at least tolerate, any and all policies their party's leader endorses – even if those policies are ones they long claimed to loathe.

This dynamic has repeatedly emerged in numerous contexts. Obama has continued Bush/Cheney terrorism policies – once viciously denounced by Democrats – of indefinite detention, renditions, secret prisons by proxy, and sweeping secrecy doctrines.

And now he is devoting all of his presidential power to cutting the entitlement programmes that have been the defining hallmark of the Democratic party since Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal. The silence from progressive partisans is defeaning – and depressing, though sadly predictable.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jul/21/barack-obama-social-security-cuts



Obama seems to be begging the GOP for the opportunity to destroy Social Security

and Medicare --

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:47 PM
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1. Dems have the majority in the Senate. Let them vote against it.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:27 AM
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25. It will be very hard for them to defy the President & take responsibility for a default
he painted his own party into a corner.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:47 PM
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2. Boy it's a good thing I saved that crow from a week or so back....
Man, remember when Obama had totally pwnd the GOP and how McConnell had caved and all of us who doubted him were suckers who needed to eat a big heaping portion of crow for being wrong?

Yeah, I wasn't very hungry then and I figured I'd save my crow for later.

I wonder if all those classy types on these here pages who were yammering on about the crow that all the Obama haters/doubters needed to eat will be out of the woodwork over the next couple of weeks.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:50 PM
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4. People posted pictures of dead crows on plates
and not one of them has the integrity to admit their utter and total vapidity and the snark they wallow in. Not one of them.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:53 PM
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6. I remember that
It looks like Obama's grand hyper-dimensional chess move turned out to be a dud.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:59 PM
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12. Perhaps everyone should wait
to serve the crow until a bill is actually produced?

If I had a dime for every prediction I see on DU that turned out to be dud followed by silence I wouldn't have to worry about SS.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:06 PM
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14. If you wait till it is done then it is too late.
The only time to effect any change by raising holy hell is during the process. The choices left afterward are even more dramatic.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:30 PM
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21. It's already more than three years too late -- !!! CHECKMATE!!
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 08:31 PM by defendandprotect
We've been captured -- !!

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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:55 AM
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29. Yeah. But it is either raise hell or leave the US...
And I can't afford the latter at the moment.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:47 PM
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34. I understdand ... but don't think it would matter if you could ....
they're taking everyone down together --

this looks like part II of WWII/fascism -- but this time they're taking us

all down together --

no one left standing to save anyone else -- !!



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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:26 AM
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24. That's what people like you said about Healthcare Reform
And we got a big shit sandwich.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:05 PM
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13. Same ones now telling you this is a good deal.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:09 PM
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16. Actually, they know it's long been over, but they will keep trying ... !!!
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:49 PM
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3. Clinton finished gutting the impoverished class, Obama's gutting the middle class
Reagan was the last Republican who could get away with any of this

strange times
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:10 PM
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17. Our government was bought out decades ago... it has been dismantled over that time ...
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 08:11 PM by defendandprotect
but people were too busy to believe those who were trying to warn them!!

Reagan didn't just appear -- it took the assassination of JFK which also took

our people's government to get to that point -- !!

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:10 PM
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30. Very true. nt
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:52 PM
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5. Here
my response to Greenwald.

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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:54 PM
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7. More blue links that link to other blue links which link to even more blue links
*sigh*
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:55 PM
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9. Links tough or something? n/t
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:57 PM
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11. No
It's just repetitive.

I see the same shit posted again and again and again.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:08 PM
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15. If you use ignore, DU becomes a very pleasant place
I finally have a person on it and it's nice.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:13 PM
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18. Try "Ignore" --
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:13 PM
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31. Heheh, it looks like yesterday's version of the entity known as
"Prosense" got a pink slip; back to it's scheduled blue linkies programming!
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:30 AM
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26. I hope you're well-paid to spread this constant propaganda
.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:54 PM
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8. Please quote the bill Obama signed
gutting SS and Medicare?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:14 PM
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19. I suppose you'll also be waiting for the last glacier to fall ... ?
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 08:16 PM by defendandprotect
Takes total denial of Obama's record to still be trying to alibi for him --

And if Obama is the candidate in 2012, he may have 4 more years to continue

to try to destroy SS and Medicare -- !!


Yippee!!!



It's over --


:nuke:

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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:31 AM
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27. So we should wait unitl after it's all over to comment?
What is your point? He's been signaling things for weeks? Should we just go on vacation and see what results?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:15 PM
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32. You've forgotten the public option and Bush tax cut talks so soon?
Those who don't learn from history...
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 03:56 PM
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10. But will they?
So, do I just not vote for Obama; or do I kiss the entire Party goodbye? Time will tell.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:18 PM
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20. Whatever you do, stay connected with liberals -- it's a huge voting bloc ....
and we should act and move together --

lots of discussion needed on what to do -- !!!

Is there anything left of the Dem Party after 20 years of Koch Bros DLC

having infiltrated it -- ???
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:06 PM
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22. Your thread
is doing much better than the one I posted in GDP. No takers over there.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:21 PM
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23. God...What A Damning Article
And sadly true
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:15 AM
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28. I think that an incorrect assumption.

Sadly, the New Deal is not a core issue for the Democratic Party, it was an expedient for saving Capitalism. With the decline of unionism(entirely engineered) and the fall of the Soviet Union it is seemingly no longer required by our rulers and thus that anomaly is being retired. This is naught but a return to business as usual.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:23 PM
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33. I suggest the progressives take him golfing.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:54 PM
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35. Holy Crap! Did you read THIS:
<snip>
But in 2009, clear signs emerged that President Obama was eager to achieve what his right-predecessor could not: cut social security. Before he was even inaugurated, Obama echoed the right's manipulative rhetorical tactic: that (along with Medicare) the programme was in crisis and producing "red ink as far as the eye can see." President-elect Obama thus vowed that these crown jewels of his party since the New Deal would be, as Politico reported, a "central part" of his efforts to reduce the deficit.

The next month, his top economic adviser, the Wall Street-friendly Larry Summers, also vowed specific benefit cuts to Time magazine. He then stacked his "deficit commission" with long-time advocates of social security cuts.
<snip>

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/jul/21/barack-obama-social-security-cuts

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