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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:29 PM
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To the Caver in Chief: Cave on the big 3, then expect many to CAVE ON YOU
Thu Jul 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM PDT
To the Caver in Chief: Cave on the big 3, then expect many to CAVE ON YOU
by icebergslim

...Let's be clear. President Obama is in trouble of his own making. This country is in trouble fiscally because of the UNPAID Medicare D program. This country is in trouble because of the UNPAID Bush/Obama tax cuts. This country is in trouble because of the ongoing WARS, 10 years and counting going on in Afghanistan and Iraq. This country is in trouble because of mismanagement from POLITICIANS who have not been responsible.

Sorry, President Obama. You had the choice to stop the Medicare D program, but caved on it with a deal with Big Pharma. You told us on the campaign trail that you would fight for us to negoitiate with other countries for lower prescription drug costs, but caved. You did that.

Sorry, President Obama. You had the CHOICE to end the Bush Tax Cuts. You had the chance, but again, you allowed the GOP to put you in a box by stating they would not extend unemployment benefits. Instead of FIGHTING and going to the American Public for the fight, you just caved and went along to get along. And guess what???? The Bush/Obama Rich Folk Tax Cuts are not helping you now and PART of the deficit in this country. Remember, you did that.

Sorry, President Obama. Two wars going on. 2 billion being spent a WEEK for nation building in countries that many don't give 2 shits about has put us in the position we are in. Yes, you walked into disaster, but you sure are not getting out any time soon. In fact, with all this "CUT TALK" when are we going to have a REAL TALK on cutting the massive defense budget that is DRAINING THIS COUNTRY. No, we can't have that talk, but you want to just cut safety nets from millions of Americans who depend on it? This move is not only selfish but shocking coming from a Democratic President...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/21/997085/-To-the-Caver-in-Chief:Cave-on-the-big-3,-then-expect-many-to-CAVE-ON-YOU?via=siderec
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:31 PM
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1. recommended
:kick:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:34 PM
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2. "you allowed the GOP to put you in a box "
Boehner is winning!

GBCW!!!!

"...Let's be clear. President Obama is in trouble of his own making. This country is in trouble fiscally because of the UNPAID Medicare D program. "

Huh?

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:34 PM
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3. It is at this times you have to wonder who the stay behinds were/are?
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:35 PM
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4. K&R
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:36 PM
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5. Home Truths, Sir
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:36 PM
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6. He doesn't care. His keepers will reward him handsomely.
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Liberalynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:36 PM
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7. +1
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:37 PM
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8. I spent most of the 1980's out of work while my neighbors bought imported and non-union made cars
Set my family back a decade. Never did fully recover financially from that.

Was that President Obama's fault too?

Don
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:46 PM
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13. The Obama family has had a personal vendetta against your family for a long, long time.
They even have a toilet cam installed in your house and charge people to watch at www.underNNN0LHI.gov.

I have been a member for a few years. It's not the worst voyeur site on the web.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:08 PM
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19. Sorry, but American corporations did it to themselves
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 05:12 PM by Cherchez la Femme
In, rather starting from that time period, I had a television repairman in to fix my TV, which was of course on the blink.

This very chubby, happy guy instead tried to talk me into buying a new television even while the one I had was only --and this is true-- just two days past end of warranty (my VCR that died was one day out: 366 days since I had bought it).

This TV repairman instructed me how it was all "The American Way".
That "Americans" should buy products such as, but not limited to TV's, appliances, automobiles
--the more expensive the better--
and that they SHOULD break down quickly, in a timely manner, then American's could go out and buy MORE of the same

and everybody was happy!

He happily informed me that U.S. manufacturers
--this was when we actually made products in this country--
deliberately figured this shoddy quality=they'll buy again & soon right into their business plan!

Yay, unpatriotic, parasitic Capitalism!!




THIS "American", however, was NOT Happy. She felt that she had worked, nay slaved (I was on my feet so much that my shoe size changed from 6 1/2 to 8 1/2; and often was working 4 jobs at once ...while attending college!) for her hard-earned money.

I felt that what I had so dearly purchased should actually last.

It wasn't as if U.S. manufacturers didn't have the knowhow or technology to build quality merchandise: a mere 10-20 years prior "American Made" was a guarantee of quality products.

It was just that U.S. manufacturers no longer wanted to manufacture quality.
It was because of Greed.


About this time the U.S., through Trade Agreements, allowed much more importation of goods.

I did my homework, and started buying Datsun, which turned into Nissan, Z cars.
Every one of my cars lasted over 250K miles. In every case, the need to replace them came not because of crappy manufacture, but because of body and frame rust. Unfortunately I happened to live in Western NY where the winters were horrendous and salt was the weapon of choice against road ice and accumulated snow -- this was as kryptonite to my vehicle's metal.
The car that stands out among my many Nissan's: my 1981 260Z, whose engine still sounded like a JET even after 277,000 miles; it even got over 25 MPG city.
A truly awesome car,
but the unrepairable, unreplaceable frame was ruined.


THIS is what established brand loyalty and continued purchase (although not quite as fast as U.S. replacements -- still, what company made more money?)
not this so-called "American Way" of poor quality/fast turnover.


Heck, I even broke with my brand loyalty and bought the AMC/Renault Alliance, the then "Car of the Year".
Ugh. That's all I can bring myself to say,
and came back to my 'don't sabotage yourself' senses.


So I'm sorry, truly, that U.S. workers suffered because of ill-conceived corporate decisions;
personally I'm surprised that the unions, then quite powerful, didn't try to push to reverse this travesty of policy the Boards came up with.
Did they also buy in to the 'if I make crap, then people will buy many more replacements of said crap and I'll have a guaranteed job foreva?'

I don't know -- but crap still continued to be made...


So what should I have bought instead of my long-lasting Datsun/Nissan's?
Pintos? K-Series cars? Vegas? Corvair? Maverick? Citation? ...the dozens and more of crappy cars that barely made it to their more & more limited warranties? The reason why 'Lemon Law' finally had to be legislated?

And this also goes for other goods such as electronics, appliances, and TV's which started my awakening?
...although now, one cannot find one single kitchen or laundry appliance which is made in the U.S.; but that's not even the fault of once-shoddy parts and manufacture.
They're STILL shoddy, only now shoddily made in places like Mexico, China, India or other third world countries
for slave wages.

It wasn't even for poor quality these jobs moved: but to accrue even more corporate profits

off of crap.


So again, I am sorry American workers suffered;
but for me, it was a choice between being a knowing sucker and constantly having to buy their deliberately poorly made products

and refusing to be a door mat. I made the right choice.


But still, it didn't have to be that way
yet nobody fixed it.




edit: Typos

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:40 PM
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9. "Sorry, President Obama. You had the CHOICE ..." K&R! n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:41 PM
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10. Here are a couple of good reads:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:43 PM
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11. And expect to have only stalactites and stalagmites for breakfast ...
lunch, and dinner. And people in the streets protesting you.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:03 PM
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15. No peas?
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:44 PM
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12. From day 1 he thought he was going to be 'the uniter.' Unite with whom? Piranha?
I don't get it.
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 04:47 PM
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14. "The Caver in Chief"
Yep, that about sums it up.

:kick:
:kick:
:kick:

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 05:10 PM
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20. Also, I think "Spelunker" is the preferred nomenclature.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:45 PM
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16. K&R
Just saw the Real News clip with J.K Galbraith - about Obama and the Gang of Six. Apparently our beloved Democratic Party has two wings a financial wing which caters to Wall Street and to which Obama is a part and the social justice - great society wing which set up Medicare, the New Deal, Social Security, etc.
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:50 PM
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18. J.K. Galbraith and the Gang of Six
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:56 PM
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17. Obama doesn't have my back so he needn't think
that I'll have his in 2012. :mad:
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