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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:02 PM
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Have You Gotten This From The Dems Yet? What Will You Respond? - FDL
Have you gotten this from the Dems yet? What will you respond?
By: Mauimom - FDL
Thursday July 21, 2011 2:47 pm

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A “friend” just forwarded this to me. It’s clearly going out to Dems still stupid enough to still be on the mailing list. My furious reaction is printed below.

With our nation set to surpass the current debt limit in less than two weeks, we're approaching perhaps the most predictable financial crisis ever -- but up until now our politics have been too divisive and hyper-partisan to seriously confront the problem.

I hope to change that. For several months now, I've worked with a bipartisan group of Senators, three Republicans and three Democrats, devising a plan to cut our debt by nearly $4 trillion over the next decade through a combination of spending cuts and tax and entitlement reforms.

I'm now asking for your help to turn our Gang of Six into something much larger: a grand coalition of like-minded Democrats, Independents, and Republicans with the political will to break the gridlock in Washington and fix our debt problem. It’s going to require a lot of work to pass this proposal through both Houses of Congress, and in
order to swing enough votes I need your help to apply some public pressure.

Will you click on this link and add your name in support of our bipartisan debt reduction proposal?


The single best thing we can do to create jobs and grow the economy right now is to enact a long-term debt and deficit reduction plan that will provide some semblance of certainty for the marketplace. Right now, businesses have $2 trillion in cash that’s just sitting on their balance sheets. They’re unwilling to invest those funds and create
jobs because, as they watch the debate in Washington, they have little confidence in what the future will hold.

Enacting our plan will give businesses reason to put their money back into the economy and start hiring again. We simplify the tax code, lowering tax rates and removing special tax breaks and havens that will generate $1 trillion in new revenue. And we reform and strengthen our entitlement programs to ensure their long-term viability.

This proposal is not perfect. To make this work, we all have to make concessions we’d prefer not to make. Seriously reducing our debt and deficit requires everyone to have some skin in the game. But this common-sense, bipartisan framework provides an incredible opportunity to steer our country toward a new path to fiscal solvency – and I need your help to turn it into law.

Thanks so much for your help and support,
Mark Warner



Notice, by the way, that there aren’t any specifics in Warner’s bs. Just a lot of “trust us.” Note that it’s tilted entirely towards business. Note also that the only purported cause + effect between reducing the deficit and creating jobs is that such reduction will “increase business’ certainty” in the economy. Where are those “rugged capitalists,” able to deal with uncertainty and willing to take risks to earn a buck?

Here’s my response:

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More: http://my.firedoglake.com/mauimom/2011/07/21/have-you-gotten-this-from-the-dems-yet-what-will-you-respond/


Hey Warner... GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!

:mad:

:nuke:

:banghead:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:05 PM
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1. I'm glad I didn't receive that.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:35 PM
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4. Me Neither... Yet... I Think The DU Activist Corps SHOULD Repsond...
:evilgrin:


:hi:
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:07 PM
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2. That's just evil
I hope that you call his office and give him a piece of your mind!
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:09 PM
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3. Please, Mr. Senator, tell me specifically what this means:
To make this work, we all have to make concessions we’d prefer not to make. Seriously reducing our debt and deficit requires everyone to have some skin in the game.

Who "everyone" do you mean?
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:37 PM
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5. Slash the defense contractor spending and increase taxes on the wealthy and corporations.
Then call me back Mr. Warner.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:49 PM
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6. I haven't gotten it yet...but this is really "way out there" that Mark Warner thinks
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 10:50 PM by KoKo
we Dems are so stupid we would believe this crap. Businesses are not lending because the "Consumer" who powered two Bubbles and might have had some savings in IRA lost much of it in the Wall Street Bankster's Meltdown in 2009, doesn't have any money left to buy anything. The Dems and Repugs told us that the Chinese, Brazil, India were going to fuel the damand for American Companies sales.

Does Mark Warner think we are idiots? :shrug:
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:57 PM
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7. "Uncertainity"? What a clown. People aren't concerned about this non immediate problem
They want jobs! If people had JOBS the deficit wouldn't be as bad because they'd being paying TAXES not to mention stop off shoring jobs with the free trade deals, ending the wars, slashing the defense budget, closing loopholes for the rich and corporations and raising taxes on the wealthy.

Warner and any other Democrat who goes along with this bullshit can go Fuck themselves.

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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:06 PM
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8. If uncertainty is really an economy wrecker,
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 11:07 PM by Marr
then this entire debt ceiling debate is a sham, because there could be no greater economic "uncertainty" than a national default, and the markets are chugging away like normal.

If the debt limit scare is authentic, then uncertainty apparently isn't a problem for the markets at all, and there's no reason to cede so much as an inch to Wall Street.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 09:47 AM
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9. Mark Warner is a fool. No more response needed.
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