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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:00 PM
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Panetta to certify end to 'don't ask, don't tell' (LA Times)
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 11:02 PM by pinto
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Panetta to certify end to 'don't ask, don't tell'

Pentagon officials say the announcement will be made Friday. The ban on gays openly serving in the military would end 60 days later.

By David S. Cloud
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
July 21, 2011, 5:01 p.m.

Reporting from Washington— Pentagon officials will announce Friday that the ban on homosexuals serving openly in the military can be lifted without harming military readiness, a step that will likely bring the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy to an end in September, two Defense officials said,

Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are recommending to President Obama that he proceed with final repeal of the nearly two-decade-old policy, the officials said.

Congress voted to repeal the 1993 "don't ask, don't tell" law last year, but delayed abolishing it until top Pentagon officials and the president could certify that the change would not adversely affect the military. The ban will cease to be enforced 60 days after the certification, Congress ordered.

Repeal of the ban on gays and lesbians serving openly will thus be one of Panetta's first major acts since taking office earlier this month. He replaced Robert M. Gates, who called for elimination of the policy but pushed for the process to be gradual.

http://www.latimes.com/news/naw-panetta-military-gays-20110722,0,2099508.story?track=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fnews+%28L.A.+Times+-+Top+News%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:04 PM
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1. that damn bastard Obama...
he never follows through on his promises! :-)
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:11 PM
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2. He has to sign it. He hasn't yet. We shall see if he drags his feet on this or not.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:16 PM
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4. Of course he is going to sign it, there is no question about that.
Obama will probably have signed it before the press release about Panetta signing it comes out tomorrow.

It amazes me that so many folks disregard the fact that Obama wanted/wants DADT repealed and gone.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:45 PM
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probama2 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:54 PM
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11. Is your Friend gay?
is your friend Gay?
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:06 AM
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14. Sending your friend hugs and prayers. n/t
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:47 AM
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15. I no longer trust him enough to accept that at face value. Seeing is believing.
He opposes gay marriage. That speaks volumes about the man.

And I'm straight, BTW.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:54 AM
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20. Well, I meet you back here in 24 hours :)
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 12:55 AM by Tx4obama

Hopefully there will be lots of photos uploaded by then for you to see.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:42 PM
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7. huh?
he signed it at the end of last year...hahaha!
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:04 AM
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12. Well, actually....
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 12:07 AM by Tx4obama

President Obama signed the Repeal of DADT Act bill into law in December 2010.
Part of what is 'in' the bill was the implementation process and certification requirement.
Tomorrow Panetta and Mullen will certify, and then Obama will still need to sign the certification as well.
Then after everyone has signed the certification, the clock starts on the 60 day waiting period - then after the 60 days have passed - POOF - no more DADT.


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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:48 AM
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16. I thought he had to sign something AFTER the military did its thing.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:52 AM
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19. See comment #12. n/t
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:47 PM
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10. YOUR POST IS TOO FUNNY....
not sure if it was meant as a joke or not but it makes me laugh and I thank you for that....HAHAHAHA!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:49 AM
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17. It's not meant to be funny. I don't trust him where gays are concerned.
And I'm straight.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:36 PM
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22. Yeah...
he is terrible for gays....he's not done enough!

FEDERAL LEGISLATION SIGNED INTO LAW

*Signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which expanded existing United States federal hate crime law to include crimes motivated by a victim’s actual or perceived gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability -- the first positive federal LGBT legislation in the nation's history
*Signed repeal of Don't Ask/Don't Tell
*Signed the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act


POLICIES CHANGED

*Reversed an inexcusable US position by signing the UN Declaration on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity
*Extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees in 2009 and, further, in 2010
*Lifted the HIV Entry Ban effective January 2010
*Issued diplomatic passports, and provided other benefits, to the partners of same-sex foreign service employees
*Committed to ensuring that federal housing programs are open to all, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity
*Conceived a National Resource Center for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Elders -- the nation's first ever -- funded by a three-year HHS grant to SAG

*Banned job discrimination based on gender identity throughout the Federal government (the nation's largest employer)
*Eliminated the discriminatory Census Bureau policy that kept our relationships from being counted, encouraging couples who consider themselves married to file that way, even if their state of residence does not yet permit legal marriage
*Instructed HHS to require any hospital receiving Medicare or Medicaid funds (virtually all hospitals) to allow LGBT visitation rights
*Required all grant applicants seeking HUD funding to comply with state and local anti-discrimination laws that protect LGBT individuals
*Adopted transgender recommendations on the issuance of gender-appropriate passports that will ease barriers to safe travel and that will provide government-issued ID that avoids involuntary "outing" in situations requiring ID, like hiring, where a gender-appropriate driver's license or birth certificate is not available
*Extended domestic violence protections to LGBT victims
*Extended the Family and Medical Leave Act to cover employees taking unpaid leave to care for the children of same-sex partners
*Issued guidance specifically to assist LGBT tenants denied housing on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity
*Issued a National HIV/AIDS Strategy praised as "long-overdue" by the Task Force, Lambda and others
*Issued guidance to 15,000 local departments of education and 5,000 colleges to support educators in combating bullying
*Cut back authority to discharge under Don't Ask/Don't Tell from hundreds of generals to just 6 civilian appointees, effectively ending discharges while working toward a permanent end to the policy.
*Led the fight that reversed a 2010 UN vote removing sexual orientation from the list of things people should not be killed for
*Launched the first-ever national study of discrimination against members of the LGBT community in the rental and sale of housing
*Determined that Section 3 of DOMA is unconstitutional, that discrimination against LGBT citizens should be subject to "heightened scrutiny" and that it will no longer defend this portion of the law in court.
*Vacated a court order that would have deported a gay American's Venezuelan partner


RESPECT & INCLUSION

*Endorsed the Baldwin-Lieberman bill, The Domestic Partnership Benefits and Obligations Act of 2009, to provide FULL partnership benefits to federal employees
*Released the first Presidential PRIDE proclamations since 2000
*Hosted the first LGBT Pride Month Celebration in White House history
*Awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Harvey Milk and Billie Jean King, joining past recipients such as Rosa Parks
*Appointed the first ever transgender DNC member
*Testified in favor of ENDA, the first time any official of any administration has testified in the Senate on ENDA
*Hired more openly LGBT officials (like these) in its first two years -- more than 150, including more than 20 "Senate-confirmables" -- than any previous administration hired in four years or eight
*Sworn in Ambassador David Huebner
*Changed the culture of government everywhere from – among others – HUD and HHS to the Export-Import Bank, the State Department, and the Department of Education
*Appointed Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, instead of conservatives who would have tilted the Court even further to the right and virtually doomed our rights for a generation. To wit (quoting McCain): "I've said a thousand times on this campaign trail, I've said as often as I can, that I want to find clones of Alito and Roberts. I worked as hard as anybody to get them confirmed. I look you in the eye and tell you I've said a thousand times that I wanted Alito and Roberts. I have told anybody who will listen. I flat-out tell you I will have people as close to Roberts and Alito ."

*Named open transgender appointees (the first President ever to do so)
*Emphasized LGBT inclusion in everything from the President’s historic NAACP address (“The pain of discrimination is still felt in America. By African American women paid less for doing the same work as colleagues of a different color and a different gender. By Latinos made to feel unwelcome in their own country. By Muslim Americans viewed with suspicion simply because they kneel down to pray to their God. By our gay brothers and sisters, still taunted, still attacked, still denied their rights.”) . . . to the first paragraph of his Family Day proclamation (“Whether children are raised by two parents, a single parent, grandparents, a same-sex couple, or a guardian, families encourage us to do our best and enable us to accomplish great things”) and his Mothers Day proclamation ("Nurturing families come in many forms, and children may be raised by two parents, a single mother, two mothers, a step-mom, a grandmother, or a guardian. Mother's Day gives us an opportunity to celebrate these extraordinary caretakers") . . . to creating the chance for an adorable 10-year-old at the White House Easter Egg roll to tell ABC World News how cool it is to have two mommies . . . to including the chair of the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce along with the Secretary of the Treasury and the President of Goldman Sachs in the small audience for the President’s economic address at the New York Stock Exchange . . . to welcoming four gay couples to its first State Dinner
*Recommitted, in a televised address, to passing ENDA . . . repealing Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell . . . repealing the so-called Defense of Marriage Act
*Spoken out against discrimination at the National Prayer Breakfast ("We may disagree about gay marriage, but surely we can agree that it is unconscionable to target gays and lesbians for who they are -- whether it's here in the United States or, as Hillary mentioned, more extremely in odious laws that are being proposed most recently in Uganda.")
*Dispatched the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to call on the Senate to repeal Don't Ask / Don't Tell
*Launched a website to gather public comment on first-ever federal LGBT housing discrimination study
*Appointed long-time equality champion Chai Feldblum one of the four Commissioners of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
*Produced U.S. Census Bureau PSAs featuring gay, lesbian, and transgender spokespersons
*Appointed Retired Colonel Margarethe Cammermeyer, an early public champion of open service in the military, to the Defense Advisory

Committee on Women in the Services
*Publicly invited the shunned MIssissippi high school prom student to the White House
*Successfully fought for UN accreditation of IGLHRC (the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission) -- against Republican attempts to block it
*Convened the first-ever anti-bullying summit to craft a national strategy to reduce bullying in schools
*Launched stopbullying.gov
*Awarded $13.3 million to the LA Gay & Lesbian Center to create a model program for LGBTQ youth in the foster care system
*Tweeted to 5.7 million BarackObama followers and nearly 2 million WhiteHouse followers the President's "It Gets Better" video
*Embraced that campaign with heartfelt messages from, as well, the Vice President, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of *Agriculture (aimed particularly at rural youth), the Secretaries of Education and Health & Human Services, the Secretary of Labor (in English and Spanish), the Director of OPM and LGBT members of the White House staff
*Issued a Department of Justice video urging kids to call a Justice Department toll-free number if their school is aware of bullying but taking no action
*Held the first ever White House conference on bullying prevention, led by the President and First Lady
*Hosted first-ever White House transgender policy meeting
http://www.equalitygiving.org/Accomplishments-by-the-Ad...


Here are a few links corroborating this.
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/gay-rights-preside...
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:13 PM
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3. LOL :)
He's up to at least 138 kept campaign promises so far
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/

Hopefully we'll be able to elect more democratic congresscritters in 2012 so that Obama will be able to add a whole bunch more promises kept to the list :)

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:21 PM
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5. Friday Afternoon - 2:45pm ET
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 11:23 PM by Tx4obama

SNIP

Pentagon spokesman Doug Wilson declined comment, but officials said Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, are prepared to certify to President Barack Obama as early as Friday that the armed services are ready for the change. The two are schedule to meet with the president in the Oval Office at 2:45 p.m. on Friday, the White House said.

SNIP

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59615.html#ixzz1SnwLYPgb

p.s. I betcha President Obama will sign it while Panetta and Mullen are there in the Oval Office :)

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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:39 PM
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6. K&R
:patriot:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 11:43 PM
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8. K & R
:thumbsup:
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:05 AM
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13. K&R...nt
Sid
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 12:50 AM
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18. Great, hope it all goes through with no further issues.... n/t
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 07:55 AM
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21. But..but..but...
I'm fresh out of buts! :D
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:40 PM
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23. Let's hope those who have dragged their feet and stalled this process are also out of "buts."
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