Democratic Primary Challenge for 2012?

[NoodleyAppendage]

Is it too late to start pushing for a primary challenge to Obama for the 2012 elections?

I don't see what will motivate his DINO team and tendencies to at least appear liberal/progressive without the threat from an actual progressive challenger.

What's the downside to a primary challenge in this case? I see none. If anything we at least get a chance to elect a REAL DEMOCRATIC PROGRESSIVE or we at least push Obama somewhat in that direction.

We were so duped in 2008. The Hope/Change crap was just progressive smoke screen for what we now realize is a Republican Facilitator in Chief.

J

[Autumn]

1. If a republican wins we might

get cuts to SS and Medicare.





:sarcasm:

[piratefish08]

10. no shit! those fuckers would expand the wars too!

[kath]

28. And they would be okay with torture, and keep Guantanamo open,and

think it's okay to assassinate whomever they want, whenever they want, even American citizens, and continue the War on (some people with some) Drugs, and other atrocities...

[elleng]

2. You on McConnell's staff?

:thumbsdown:

[Kahuna]

3. You do realize that a financial meltdown caused by bushco and the VOTERS

who allowed him to get into the whitehouse in the first place (repukes and voters who did not vote for Gore) are to blame for the president rightly making averting a depression his top priority.

[piratefish08]

12. we have not averted a depression - we are barreling toward one.

NOT because of this debt ceiling bullshit.

because real unemployment is somewhere between 10-20%, and who really knows anymore and would it matter if they did because they stopped giving a shit YEARS ago in this mad fucking rush to shovel money up to the top as fast as possible.

It is political theater at it's worst.

[SugarShack]

4. Never too late...and THIS IS what we need to do....

and worry about the superdelegates later!

[elocs]

5. It's not going to happen: welcome to the real world.

Nobody has a chance to defeat Obama for the nomination anyways, but if there were a primary challenge why would anyone believe that Obama would change in any way if they do not believe it now?

If a primary challenge to Obama comes from the DU alternate universe where reality does not apply, then by all means go for it.

[PoliticAverse]

6. You don't think a strong primary challenge to Obama would make a republican victory more likely ?

And even if you push Obama's rhetoric to the left when he gets reelected what's to stop
the reality from being the same as it is now ?

[MineralMan]

7. "Republican Facilitator in Chief? DINO?"

What crap! Have you seen the Republicans? Are you paying attention at all? President Obama is not a Republican.

That is a vile slur. There will be no primary candidate who has even a prayer of the nomination.

[jtown1123]

9. Obama is a Hamiltonian Democrat. Which almost as bad as a Republican

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1540315

[MineralMan]

11. I was addressing the OP's vile insults.

And I saw that thread. Thanks.

[NoodleyAppendage]

20. Please describe how Obama has been a progressive liberal since he's been in office.

On financial matters, I would like to hear your thoughts about where he actually has demonstrated liberal/progressive ideals. On social matters you may have a point, but even there he's playing too cute by half regarding gay marriage. I do believe firmly that we were sold a bill of goods in 2008 that Obama would be an agent of progressive change. He is NOT a progressive liberal (based upon his deeds, not his words).

If the shoe fits...

J

[MineralMan]

25. No. You're the one who made the claim that he's a Republican.

It falls on you to provide the evidence. President Obama is a Democrat. He's not a real progressive Democrat, but he is a Democrat, not a Republican. There is a distinct difference between the two.

We do not have a Progressive Party. We do have a Democratic Party. President Obama won the election because Democrats voted for him.

[JoePhilly]

8. DU's daily "primary Obama" thread.

No more interesting than the one from yesterday, or the one that will pop up tomorrow.

[Scurrilous]

13. LOL

:thumbsup:

[Grandrose]

14. Thank You!

On point.:applause:

[NoodleyAppendage]

21. Maybe that trend suggests a general consensus about the need for a primary??

Snark is easy. Solutions are hard.

J

[JoePhilly]

27. And yet a primary isn't happening.

But the daily DU threads with no candidates are fun to watch.

And having parts of DU WISH for a primary, does not a "consensus" make.

[kctim]

15. The downside is that

the majority of Dems are not progressive Democrats and would vote for President Obama in a landslide.

Would be a huge waste of time that would only give the Republicans ammo to use in the national election.

[TheKentuckian]

16. Then vote for the challenger so that isn't an issue.

If you vote for Obama then you support the TeaPubliKlan ideology with a more marketable smile.

Chose wisely or chose TeaPubliKlans.

[kctim]

23. So now President Obama is a member of the Tea Party?

:eyes:

That ranks right up there with those who claim President Obama is the reincarnation of Lenin or Marx or Hitler.

[TheKentuckian]

36. I didn't say he was a Teabagger but he appears to share their base fiscal, foreign

and police state ideology.

The fundamental argument between the Turd Way, traditional Republicans, and Teabaggers is the rhetoric and how much water should be in the bathtub they are drowning our "pig" in.

[L0oniX]

17. Yea like it makes any difference who the president is anymore...

because they are going to keep the wars and military spending and they will fuck us out of our SS and Medicare. It just doesn't matter anymore.

[Octafish]

18. Jim Webb

He's not perfect, but he does give a damn.

We Helped the Bankers. Now It's Their Turn.

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[neverforget]

22. Bernie Sanders said on Thom Hartmanns program this morning that

Obama is able to move so far to the right because he has no primary opposition from the left.

[Marrah_G]

24. I will back any real liberal who runs against him.

[kath]

29. Abso-fuckinlutely!

[woo me with science]

35. +1

[blkmusclmachine]

26. The Party was hi-jacked long ago.

Time to start thinking outside the box.

[NYC Liberal]

30. YOU may have been "duped." I was not. Many other people were not.

I will work my ass off against any primary challenger.

Not that there will be one.

[Freddie Stubbs]

31. Yes, it is too late

Better luck next time!

[JI7]

32. These threads remind me of Republicans claiming Iraqis will greet soldiers with kisses and candy

and hugs and everything nice.

[seafan]

33. OK, here's a thought: If Obama made the switch and ran as a Republican in '12...

... we actually might have a chance to get a liberal Democrat elected.


The GOP would go apoplectic if he became their candidate and, in their frenzy, decide to vote the other way.


Then, maybe we could convince Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders to take the mantle.


How's that for a serious fantasy?

[creon]

34. Someone here

I think that someone here should step up and in the primary against Obama.