I'm not seeing how any kind of deal needs to be made on the debt limit at all.

[RC]

Raising the debt limit or not stands all by itself, Yes or no. The only variable is how much.
So how do they think we can be sold down the river as common serfs even be in the mix? Do they not work for us, as per the Constitution?

[Autumn]

1. I don't believe it has to and it certainly shouldn't

This is politics at it's most stupid point.

[Demeter]

2. It's Extortion

[RKP5637]

3. No, they do not work for us, they see themselves as insular from the masses and I

now think a fair number of politicians see the masses as ignorant peasants in the new America. They are incompetent and the pack of them, most of them, would have been fired from any major corporation I've worked in for incompetence, lack of performance and overpaid.

[PoliticAverse]

4. Don't confuse 'needs' and 'wants'... n/t