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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:17 PM
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Is there a difference between a gun target and map symbols? And does it matter?
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 05:34 PM by geekgrrl
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Symbolism and language matter. How politicians and public figures talk about specific issues frames how we, as a public, perceive those very issues (which is not to say we don't think for ourselves. We do. But we do so within a framework of ideas where some ideas are more available for use than others). So, in March 2010 when Sarah Palin's Political Action Campaign released a map and list of targets with the message "We'll aim for these races and many others" there was outcry that she was inciting violence against these congressional targets by depicting them in the crosshairs of a gun. Doing so created an opening for some to see congress members as targets for potential gun violence, and not just for defeat in their reelection campaigns.



Congresswoman Giffords herself even argued that hateful anti-government words have consequences. "We’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list,” Ms. Giffords said last March. “But the thing is the way that she has it depicted has the cross hairs of a gun sight over our district. When people do that, they’ve got to realize there’s consequences to that.”

Palin is also known for her gun rhetoric (she definitely knows her pro-gun audience and how to relate to them), often saying things like: "lock and load" and "don't retreat, RELOAD" in political speeches and tweets. Jesse Kelly, who ran against Congresswoman Giffords in 2010, even used gun imagery in his campaign (source):



After yesterday's tragic shooting of one of the congresswomen on Palin's "target list" (and the killing and injury of many others), Palin's map and list of targets is all over the web and in the news again (even though they've taken down the original PAC website). Rebecca Mansour, a Palin staffer has come out saying that "We never ever, ever intended it to be gun sights... It was simply crosshairs like you'd see on maps. It never occurred to us that anybody would consider it violent" and called any attempts to politicize the Arizona tragedy "repulsive."

So are these crosshairs that suggest gun violence, or are they a "surveyor's symbol" like this Palin website argued back in March? Does it matter if Palin intended the map to depict the crosshairs of a gun, or just that people might perceive that it does? How are these symbols (and Palin's accompanying "lock and load" language) interpreted by the general public-- those who are not surveyors or cartographers, and are probably more familiar with violent images in our culture than map symbolism? Here are my google image search results for comparison:

Searching for "crosshairs" and "gun target" (I only took images from websites that directly related to guns):






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And here are some map symbols and symbol guides. I searched for "surveyor symbols" and "map symbols."





I had to dig really hard to find something sort of close to what Palin's map used (check out "control data and monuments" in right hand column):



Most of us are use to seeing map symbols and points on a map depicted like this:





So does the use of symbols that could very easily be interpreted as having to do with violence and guns matter? Certainly, Palin did not intend for the congress members on her list to be assassinated. But, as a friend of mine said on Facebook "You can't strike and throw matches and then act surprised when something catches on fire." Palin, and others who use violent language in attacking liberals, (and violence is largely used against the left by the extreme right) are not committing the violence themselves, but are inciting violence with symbols and words by empowering someone who already has extreme ideas and violent tendencies to commit violence. In sum, symbolism and language do matter. They have very real and tragic consequences.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:19 PM
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1. I see no map icon that looks like a crosshair.
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:23 PM
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3. It there under "Control Data Managements"
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:28 PM
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7. Oh, I see it now
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:21 PM
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2. Thanks for bringing all this info together....
I was trying to do the same search and got frustrated trying to find those "surveyor's marks."
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:25 PM
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4. Good job and thanks for your WORK!
Ms. MooseKillers damage control team needs to be called out on their pathetic spin and lies.
Refudiate their fucking ass!
:kick:
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Bold Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:25 PM
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5. I did a Google search for "in the crosshairs" and was AMAZED
at how often that term is used. Most often it is used by reporters to boot.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:26 PM
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6. But but but but but - the DLC map is mean!!!! Buh buh buh...
:eyes:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:29 PM
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8. Palin herself said that they were bulls-eyes
Case closed, despite her staffer's feeble attempt at spin:

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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:30 PM
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11. yup, she did just that-- surveyor marks, my foot!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:31 PM
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13. The. End.
Send this to Keith O.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:29 PM
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9. thanks for the great feedback everyone!
since I study politics and symbolism, I just couldn't keep quiet about this, and spent most of my day googling for images!
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dynasaw Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:30 PM
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10. It's called subliminal abuse
. . . and yes sure it's used all the time in advertising, politics (photos of presidents shot from a low angel, lighted from behind to give a halo effect) product promotion, selling sex etc.

Brains do register images but below the threshold of consciousness. The registered images are inadequate to produce conscious awareness but able to evoke a response. Ergo, subliminal propaganda. Sarah/or her handlers knew exactly what they were doing--plant the idea, get some other unbalanced sucker to do the dirty job.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:45 PM
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14. Exactly.
Although you attribute a little more intent to her than I do. I think she's more reckless in her rhetoric and power-hungry than intent on killing someone.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 05:30 PM
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12. People should be enraged that they think were ignorant enough to believe this crap.
That they try to spin this as "map icons" is insulting.
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