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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:26 PM
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They want our economy to crash and burn.
I don't know why they want that to happen, but they do.

Every single thing the Republicans have done since last November leads directly to this crisis.

Well, that and totally eliminating a woman's right to control her biological destiny, but that's not as important is it? :sarcasm:
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:30 PM
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1. There is also their massive disenfranchisement efforts that will only increase in the years to come
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:34 PM
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2. Our economy is not the 1% ers economy.
The GOP would like to see us (working Americans) return to the days of Oliver Twist (Please, sir, may I have some more?)
They have already tried to roll back child-labor laws and would not lose a minute of sleep if children were encouraged to return to coal mines once they effectively hobble regulations and inspections.

They do NOT care about us. The economy that the GOP pays attention to makes the rich 4 million in America richer as our "wealth" continues to dwindle.

We could die tomorrow, they do not care, there is a whole third-world out there that will work for peanuts, die in mines and take their crap for 2.00 dollars an hour Hell, 2 dollars a week!
This is what they are fighting for, not our interest, the chosen fews interest.
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fivepennies Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:35 PM
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3. It isn't "our" economy.
Follow the money.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:46 PM
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5. Right On, Mitch McConnell said the stranges thing the other day. Please see my post below.
:hi:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 10:44 PM
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4. I live in a red state. So-called "Right" to "Life" is THE crowbar around here, or the sledge
hammer or whatever, but it's a tool, a very reliable and effective tool, for the money issues. There's even a Catholic "American's for Prosperity".

Didn't Mitch McConnell say something Wednesday that went something like: if there are taxes, we won't raise the deficit ceiling - BUT - we won't default.

I bring it up because it seems to prove that you are right in saying they want our economy to crash and burn. It sounded to me as though he was telegraphing certain $pecial Intere$t$$$$ that the Republicans would crash us by not raising the cap, but they'd take care of certain financial special interests anyway. Divvy up the wreckage with certain ones, after they ruin everyone else. Anyway, that's the way I heard that 'no raise in the deficit cap - BUT - we won't default'. If they didn't raise the cap, they can't borrow enough to pay everything, so how else could they not default, except by paying off certain interests and not others.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:27 PM
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9. Interesting.
good catch.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:44 PM
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11. Sounds like they'd be issuing "credit vouchers", right? to whomever they don't pay. Sounds like
borrowing to me.

I don't know. It just didn't make sense.
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fivepennies Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:10 PM
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15. Moody's is saying they'll downgrade us
if McConnell's plan goes through. Not enough pain. So who is supposed to accept these credit vouchers in lieu of ... well, something else that's not worth the powder it'd take to blow it to hell?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:14 PM
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17. Yep! & that means if they do something like that with Credit Vouchers, that borrowing will be
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 07:15 PM by patrice
at a higher interest rate than what we'd pay under a raised cap now. Surprise, surprise. I wonder who'd benefit from those higher interest rates? Could it possibly include FOREIGN POWERS who were mixed up in our Derivative Crash?
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fivepennies Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:05 PM
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13. I'm in a red state as well
and right to life is only one of the many diversions and distractions the politicos and their gang of talking pinheads wave in our faces to to keep us from noticing how badly we've been had by both the talkers and the doers.

The game right now is "who's the biggest chicken on the hill" with this debt ceiling crap. Neither side wants a default and there won't be one, but the incorrigibles in the GOP won't back down until tax increases on the wealthy are OFFFFFF the table. They don't care if everyone else on the planet starves to death = they are owned lock, stock and barrel by the bankers and the mega corporations as well as other even higher shadowy powers behind the throne and they have a job to do for them. God pity these bozos who kneel before the money gods because they'll be eaten by those soulless gods anyway.

And that always reminds me of a nifty little quote by Napoleon Bonaparte, who was brought high by the bankers and then utterly crushed and eaten when he stopped being useful to them ...

"When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:00 PM
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6. I'm not sure they grasp the "can't have your cake and eat it, too" concept.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 11:01 PM by aquart
I don't believe they really imagine anything would change in their neat cocoons.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:22 PM
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7. Correction - "They already crashed the Economy"
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:38 PM
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10. Right on! I ran around saying that everywhere I could in 2010. All of this now is
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 11:40 PM by patrice
just postlude.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:23 PM
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8. And?....
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 11:47 PM
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12. Repukes hate The People and are proud of it.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 11:47 PM by Rex
Meanwhile their fringe leaders can barely form a coherent sentence and get history mixed up with the voices in their head.

Party of losers.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:09 PM
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14. Agree 100%. They want the default to occur.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:22 PM
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16. I'm not understanding why they think there's something to gain by
creating a GLOBAL economic disaster. What is the goal? What happens when businesses collapse, more people are out of work, no one can buy anything, so MORE businesses go under....and we find ourselves in a DEPRESSION. What do they gain? Just because Obama is the President doesn't mean he will be blamed for the crisis. The repukes caused it. Everyone knows that..... Just like they did when Clinton was in office and the repukes PAID FOR IT. They think it will be different this time around because it will be worse AND Global? I would LOVE to know what the assholes think they will gain.....other than the WH in 2012 and taking back the Senate. What? What good will come from destroying our country? Is it to take it to the brink so SS, Medicare and Medicaid could not possibly survive? There has to be something the GREEDY SOBs get from destroying a planet.
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MyshkinCommaPrince Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:54 PM
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18. It looks possible
I've been thinking the same thing for some time, on and off. The question is, why would they want that? How would they benefit? They're not all hoping to issue in the End Times of myth.

My current theory is that they look at the collapse of the Soviet state, see how many warlords and mafia chieftains rose to tremendous wealth and power in the midst of it, and they're jealous of that. They want to live like that, too. Or something. Yeah, it kind of falls apart if I think about it. But still, what's their motive?
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Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:02 PM
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19. I think they want to make sure that no minority is voted president again. Their party is the party
of old White men, dictated to by White CEOs. They are losing their conglomerated power and want the US voters to see just how much trouble these minority presidents will bring to our country. My theory anyway.
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