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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:18 AM
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Experts and media: It must have been Al-qaeda. Or some sort of Islamists.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 07:23 AM by Prometheus Bound
In case my point in posting this was not clear. Experts and the corporate media are fools and or propagandists and a waste of time. How they wanted this to be Al-qaeda! They actually seem to now believe their own propaganda. They are absolutely hopeless phonies.

What analysts are saying
"It appears to me very much that this is the work of al-Qaida or an al-Qaida-linked group."
-Justin Crump, CEO, Sibylline Ltd., London

"What was the ideological motivation, was it local or trans-national? Norwegian nationals have travelled abroad for terrorist training and in the past there have been linkages to Iraq, the Central Asian republics and Xinjiang in China.

"An attack in Norway followed by failed plots in Sweden in December 2010 and against the (Danish) Jyllands-Posten newspaper highlight that Scandinavian countries are in the firing line for terrorist activities. It seems no longer a factor that countries like Norway and Sweden are immune from terrorism because of their neutral foreign policies."
- Sajjan Gohel, Asia-Pacific Foundation

"The most likely suspects are al-Qaida-linked or inspired groups, including radical Kurdish group Ansar al-Islam. As the news continues trickling in from Utoeya, however, right-wing extremist groups or even a lone perpetrator with army training or access to ammunition and weaponry could be behind the plot ...

"Although details of the blast remain limited and no claims of responsibility have been made, initial attention has focused on the possibility of Islamist terrorism. The Norwegian Police Security Service has previously identified such a threat, highlighting it as the biggest threat to Norwegian security in a report released in March.
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/What+analysts+saying/5148238/story.html


Was al-Qaeda or far-Right group behind attacks?
Investigators are already working on the premise that Islamist radicals inspired by or linked to al-Qaeda are among the most likely perpetrators of the Oslo terrorist attacks.

The hallmark of a "mass casualty, no warning" attack with multiple targets is a typical tactic of the terrorist group and those who seek to emulate it, experts said. The attack also had echoes of the bomb and commando-style attacks in Mumbai, India, in 2008, albeit on a much smaller scale. Those attacks were carried out by the group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which has links to al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/was-alqaeda-or-farright-group-behind-attacks-20110723-1htuc.html#ixzz1SvLdncVd


Oslo explosion: Is al-Qaeda behind this?
It is not yet known who – or what – was behind the gigantic explosion that hit central Oslo this afternoon. But here are three factors that are worth bearing in mind.

Possible links to al-Qaeda and terrorist networks in Britain and the US
.....

Anger at Danish cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed
.....

Norway has troops in Afghanistan
.....
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100098400/oslo-explosion-is-al-qaeda-behind-this/


WikiLeaks files show Norway unprepared for terror attack
...Separate cables state that the country felt “immune” from terrorism and that groups such as Al Qaeda were “not a direct threat”.

...Al-qaeda, al-qaeda, blah blah
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/8655964/WikiLeaks-files-show-Norway-unprepared-for-terror-attack.html


Oslo attack initial speculation centered on Kurdish group

....Norway’s contingent in Afghanistan, or even its “cartoon crisis” of 2006, could make the country a target for any number of terrorist groups, as the Atlantic has noted.

....Still, Ansar — a Sunni group that has been formally designated a terrorist organization by the United States — could make good sense if for no other reason than the timing of the attack.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/in-norway-attack-speculation-centers-on-kurdish-group/2011/07/22/gIQA08KqTI_blog.html


Lethal Oslo Bombing: Who Are The Suspects?
....He said groups including the Tamil Tigers and al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula had cause to hold a grudge against Norwegian authorities.

Norway has also been very active in the Nato-led operation against Muammar Gaddafi's forces in Libya, and has sent troops to fight the Taliban in Afghanistan.

At home, Kiley said, authorities have - like those in Britain - been trying to get immigrants to the country to conform more to the Norwegian way of life amid concerns home-grown terrorists may pose a threat.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Video-Oslo-Bomb-Blasts---Sky-Security-Editor-Sam-Kiley-On-Possible-Reasons-For-Norway-Attacks/Article/201107416035729?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_16035729_Video%3A_Oslo_Bomb_Blasts_-_Sky_Security_Editor_Sam_Kiley_On_Possible_Reasons_For_Norway_Attacks


Norway attack: Likely suspected groups
* AL QAEDA
* ISLAMIC MOVEMENT OF UZBEKISTAN
* LASHKAR-E-TAIBA/JAISH-E-MOHAMMED
* AL SHABAAB
* TEHRIK-E-TALIBAN PAKISTAN
* AQIM
http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6E7IM13Y20110722?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0&sp=true


What the Oslo Bombing May Reveal About the State of the Global Terrorist Threat

Friday's bomb attack in Oslo that killed at least seven people -- and what police say is a related shooting attack at a youth camp on an island outside the Norwegian capital that left an larger number dead -- was widely assumed to be the first jihadist terror strike on Western soil since the death of Osama bin Laden. If that suspicion, based on recent events in Norway and its neighborhood, had been proven correct, it might have confirmed the increasingly diffuse and localized nature of al-Qaeda, and an inclination to use local assets -- or even simply to inspire local sympathizers -- to strike at less protected targets in the West. In the big-picture arc of the decade since 9/11, it's a strategy of diminishing returns for the jihadists, but the grim tidings from Oslo on Friday would have been a reminder that even a scattered jihadist movement whose capabilities are massively degraded will still occasionally get lucky

Read more: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2011/07/22/what-the-oslo-bombing-may-reveal-about-the-state-of-the-global-terror-threat/#ixzz1SvaFsySd


Why would terrorists want to attack Norway?

.....However, they and others point to several possible connections that could lead officials to consider whether al-Qaida is behind the attacks.

Norwegian special forces have been fighting in Afghanistan for many years and Ayman al Zawahiri, al-Qaida's new leader after the death of Osama bin Laden, has been threatening Norway since 2003, warning that its participation in the U.S.-led military campaign against radical Islam in Afghanistan would result in an attack on the Norwegian homeland. Norwegian special forces operate in central Afghanistan, near Kabul.

On July 9, 2010, three Norwegians were indicted for planning an attack on targets in Oslo, apparently Chinese targets. Two of the three, a Uighur (Chinese Muslim) and an Uzbeki, were arrested in Norway, while a third, an Iraqi with Norwegian residence, was grabbed in Germany. The detentions were coordinated with arrest in New York of Najibulla Zazi, an Afghan-American man who wanted to blow up New York City subways. The two plots were believed to have been put together by al-Qaida’s central command in Pakistan -- Osama Bin Laden and Zawahiri.

Last week, Mullah Krekhar, founder of Ansar al Islam (the first Iraqi group affiliated with al-Qaida), was indicted in Oslo for threatening Norwegian government officials with death if he were to be deported. Krekhar took refuge in Oslo in early part of the last decade and has been seeking asylum. In comments to various news media, he threatened attacks if he was sent abroad, mainly on opposition figures who have long called for his extradition to the U.S.

In January 2006, the Norwegian government apologized to Muslims worldwide after the publication of 12 cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad in the Norwegian newspaper Magazinet

http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/07/22/7142933-why-would-terrorists-want-to-attack-norway


How to Make Sense of What Happened In Oslo

....No one—terrorism expert or man-in-the-street—will be surprised if the attacks are linked to Islamist terrorists. There are plenty reasons to believe Norway might be a target. An Al Qaeda cell was unmasked there last year. And just a few days ago, Norway indicted a radical Iraqi cleric Mullah Krekar, (founder of Ansar al-Islam) for making death threats against Norwegian officials.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/07/22/how-to-make-sense-what-happened-in-oslo/#ixzz1SvboojHe


Norway attacks: Why was Norway bombed?
There are five possible reasons for this soft-target attack in the twisted logic of the terrorist. The first is simple – a revenge attack for the death of Osama bin Laden, given Norway’s Nato role.

The second is that last year a ­Norwegian newspaper infuriated hard-line Islamists by printing cartoons condemned as anti-Islamic.

The third is that al-Qaeda may see Norway as a soft target because of its small role in the war against terror. Even though it only has a few hundred troops on the front line at any time, Norway does have forces fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Norway’s treatment of the Iraqi Kurdish Islamist Mulla Krekar, once leader of the Islamist group Ansar al-Islam, could also be a reason. He has been placed under house arrest awaiting deportation to Iraq. Many Islamists are furious.

There is also an outside chance the bombing was sponsored by Col Gaddafi.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/23/norway-attacks-why-was-norway-bombed-115875-23290204/#ixzz1SvcEB5Rb


Norway Attack: Why? And Who Was Behind It?
Norway is far from isolated when it comes to its foreign policy leaving it open to terrorist attacks.

Not only does Norway's NATO membership mean it has troops in both Afghanistan and Libya, but the nation's three national newspapers also printed the controversial Prophet Mohammed cartoons in 2005-2006, reports The Telegraph.

Al Qaeda have also been known to be active in Norway, with three arrests related to a planned terrorist attack in the country last year. According to Foreign Policy's interview with Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of Norway's Peace Research Institute Oslo, Al Qaeda is "the only concrete supposition".
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/22/why-norway-attacked_n_907215.html


At least 80 killed in Norway youth camp shooting, police say

...Although police would not speculate on who was responsible for Friday’s attack or whether international groups were involved, Norway has been grappling with a homegrown terror plot linked to al-Qaeda. Two suspects are in jail awaiting charges.

Last week, a Norwegian prosecutor filed terror charges against an Iraqi-born cleric for threatening Norwegian politicians with death if he is deported from the Scandinavian country. The indictment centreed on statements that Mullah Krekar – the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam – made to various news media, including American network NBC.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/at-least-80-killed-in-norway-youth-camp-shooting-police-say/article2106259/


Was al-Qaeda or far-Right group behind attacks?
Investigators are already working on the premise that Islamist radicals inspired by or linked to al-Qaeda are among the most likely perpetrators of the Oslo terrorist attacks.

The hallmark of a "mass casualty, no warning" attack with multiple targets is a typical tactic of the terrorist group and those who seek to emulate it, experts said. The attack also had echoes of the bomb and commando-style attacks in Mumbai, India, in 2008, albeit on a much smaller scale. Those attacks were carried out by the group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which has links to al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/was-alqaeda-or-farright-group-behind-attacks-20110723-1htuc.html#ixzz1SvfBHvMl
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:24 AM
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1. It seems that the experts are wrong.
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:25 AM
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2. Yes, I added an edit at the top in case people misunderstood my point in posting this.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:27 AM
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3. Wait until they discover it was one of their own
right wing Xtian conservative neo-Nazis

In his own words:
One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100 000 who have only interests.
http://politicons.net/breaking-name-of-utoya-shooter-released%E2%80%A6-anders-behring-breivik%E2%80%A6-photos/
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:34 AM
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4. The GWOT Lobby earning their money.
Now of course the incident will be rebranded into the Lone Nut meme. Oops.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:38 AM
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5. When the Oklahoma city bombing happened those were
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 07:40 AM by undeterred
the same things said in the first 24 hours - blaming radical muslims. I remember a University professor going on nightline and saying all this stuff, and the next day they came up with Timothy McVeigh. You would think that would be a lesson learned for everyone not to make such quick judgments.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:39 AM
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6. also Saddam Hussein
that was a prominent theory, a huge effort was made by the neocons to link Iraq to that attack.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:17 AM
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7. ^
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