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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:28 PM
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The point is: This is what "Second Amendment Remedies" and "watering the Tree of Liberty" look like.
Or "voting from the rooftops" and all other such odious incitements to violence.

It would be virtually impossible to prove causation, that right wing incendiary rhetoric directly caused this shooter's actions. The true believers would deny it even if the shooter had notebooks filled with text saying he was doing Sarah Palin's bidding in "taking back" the congressional seat with his own crosshairs.

The point is, that all the stuff these people have been talking about, here is what it actually is, this is what it looks like. A 9 year old girl, old men and women, shot up dead and bleeding on the pavement.

This is what is being advocated.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:34 PM
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1. They Cower from Responsibility
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:35 PM
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2. NO Tyrants Died that Day, just Innocents
The tyrants were nowhere near the site.

So your premise is faulty, and the conclusions even moreso.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:36 PM
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3. No, because to these "tree of liberty" types, Gifford and all Dems are the tyrants.
More so because she voted for the health care bill.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:22 PM
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14. Wrong. The RW considers ALL liberals to be "tyrants". But go ahead and
keep defending them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:40 PM
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:44 PM
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5. at best, they want to use violent, provocative imagery without actually provoking anyone to violence
like the typical selfish brats they are, they want all the rights and none of the responsibilities.

at worst, they are secretly lusting for exactly the results we have seen.
they gain by assassination with a patina of plausible deniability.
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maritimer Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:19 PM
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13. They aren't so secret about their blood-lust anymore
Go to Redstate and FR and read the gleeful posts...
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:47 PM
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6. Empowerment through firearms.
To water the tree of liberty or settle a personal grievance or just blindly lash out.

Freedom Is Messy and Worth Ten Thousand Tragedies.

Or some such horseshit.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:52 PM
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9. +1
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:35 PM
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:37 PM
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17. You are empowered to shoot people with them. Solely upon your whim to do so.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:50 PM
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7. k and r n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 06:51 PM
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8. Recommend
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:09 PM
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10. Posted wrong place.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 07:10 PM by jody
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:18 PM
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12. Hey backseat mod, you've now posted this point multiple places in the thread.
Go ahead and alert and make your case if you feel it's in the wrong place, but you should probably cease your derailment, although the thread bumps are appreciated!
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:30 PM
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15. You've got to be kidding. I want your OP to remain in GD, n/t
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:11 PM
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11. TV News did this
Their incitement to violence sparked the fire - and they know it works. They know what time it is now and are deflecting as fast as they can - trying to look reasonable the whole time.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-11 07:37 PM
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18. No, it's what paranoid schizo looks like
Although I do believe Palin and others should be prosecuted for inciting terror

Then again, DHS and people like Republican Rep. Peter King incite terror all the time
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