Check this RW Dutch web site out.

[Skip_In_Boulder]

I got a line on this site via a tweet from David Corn and man this is some sick stuff. There are people there actually praising the Norway shooter. This is even sicker than what they have ay FR. Europe may have a bigger right wing fanatic problem than what I was aware of.

http://www.forum-voor-de-vrijheid.nl/showthread.php?s=d0cf1502ded15876fc35f20a39324bf1&t=26240&page=2

If it comes up in Dutch there is a translate button at the top.

[proud patriot]

1. I couldn't find the translate button

:-(

[Skip_In_Boulder]

2. Oh, I looked at it again

And I am using Google Chrome and it comes up as a function of the browser.

[jwirr]

3. I do not want to see this but I to am worried about far right groups

in EU. We know there are the neo-Nazis but I think we are missing the type of groups this guy came from. The ultra right Christian organizations who think they are empowered by God. How many more of these people exist around the world? We pretty much know who the hate groups are. Do we know about who they are in other countries?

[Skip_In_Boulder]

5. It is starting to seem like

right wing fundamentalism is a cancer that is spreading around the world.

[jwirr]

10. That cancer has always been there - we have just let grow into a

real problem.

[SusanaMontana41]

14. Yes.

Terrorism isn't new to Europe.

[Cleita]

8. I'm getting very worried about the Christian

conservatives in this country. Remember that most White Supremacist and neo-Nazi groups are a religion and call themselves a church of this or that. Now not all Christian right wing groups are White Supremacists but most are xenophobic and can't accept any ideas that are different than their own and they openly try to get laws passed that conform to their moral principles. I find Michele Bachman very scary for this reason. She has an army of these people willing to follow her over a cliff.

[jwirr]

9. I agree. We have allowed this to grow for years now and they think

they are somehow the mirror of the country. They are still in the minorities but they are allowed to act as if they are a majority. If they get anymore power we are going to be in trouble and in the end we will look very much like Nazi Germany did. We are letting hate rule our nation and that is a big mistake. At least Germany had an excuse - they were looked into a no win situation after WWI and wanted a way out. In our country when these groups do not get their way they have decided to destroy the whole thing.

[white_wolf]

13. Neo-Nazis are mostly a joke. At least the ones in the U.S.

Some might hold a few seats in countries where they have proportional representation, but even then I doubt they ever hold much power. They are too hated, but the extreme Christan right is far more dangerous and likely to gain power it seems.

[MadMaddie]

15. Many of them exist in the U.S and I fear the gov has not

been paying enough attention to them.

[Warpy]

4. The US has been dealing with the "immigrant problem" for over 200 years

and every single wave of new people has been deplored as mentally deficient, morally lax and bone lazy. The Mexicans are just the latest to get the treatment. Eventually they manage to prove themselves by producing enough rich people that they're accepted.

This is just new for much of Europe. Originally imported to be their shit workers, the Muslims dug in, married, had children and stayed. Now they're seen as a great cultural threat by people who have never had to deal with this sort of thing before.

You better believe their xenophobic far right lunatics are loonier than our own.

[lunasun]

6. great cultural threat by people who have never had to deal with this sort of thing before.

Oh Nazi Grmny dealt with it before.............

[Warpy]

7. Actually, they didn't. The problem there wasn't a sudden influx

of people with a separate culture who were threatening social norms, the problem there was that the people had long since assimilated completely and were beating the Germans at their own game. They'd become entirely too successful. Most were completely indistinguishable from Germans despite the cartoons depicting them as swarthy people with hooked noses.

They weren't a problem at all until the far right wing gave good Germans permission to single them out and hate them. As we see here, morons will always obediently hate anyone they're given permission to hate.

[jwirr]

11. Exactly. That is what is going on now. After the 60s it was not okay

to hate/discriminate against anyone. Then along comes the raygun/boooosh era and anything goes. We once again hear the old names and actions repeating themselves. The rethug party gave Americans permission to hate again. And the saddest thing is that it is coming out of the rw churches in God's name.

[LeftishBrit]

12. While it may be new for some of Europe...

there are parts of Europe that have had waves of immigrants, often greeted with intolerance, for a very long time. The UK, and especially London and other large cities, is a notable example. So is France. Norway does have a fairly long history of immigration; it has increased in recent years, but I just found one nugget of information: from 1500 to 1800, almost all civil servants in Norway were immigrants due to the fact that Norway had no university till the beginning of the 19th century.

What *is* fairly new (since 2002) is unrestricted migration between the countries of the EU.

I would say that European far-right loonies are indeed loonier than yours, but less numerous. Perhaps one key factor is that Europe still lives under the long shadow of the horrible history of Nazism and fascism: this acts as a warning to many as to the dangers of far-right policies, but is a perverse attraction to the truly loony minority.