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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:59 PM
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The Norwegian killer's manifesto was published on Stormfront also pic wetsuit with tricked out rifle
I have just finished reading through what appears to be the 1,518-page manifesto and handbook of the alleged perpetrator of the worst terrorist attack in Norwegian history.

The manifesto, bylined by someone calling himself Andrew Berwick, is entitled "2083: A European Declaration of Independence" and was posted on Stormfront.org, a white supremacist website, and discovered by American blogger Kevin I. Slaughter. (UPDATE: Norwegian TV has confirmed that the author is indeed the Oslo shooter, according to the New York Times.)

In it, "Berwick" declares himself a "Justiciar Knight Commander," a leading member of a "re-founded" Knights Templar group formed at an April 2002 meeting in London. He claims the founding group has 9 members, whom he does not name, and that three other sympathizers were not able to attend the original meeting.

"Our purpose," the document reads, is to "seize political and military control of Western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda."

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/07/23/what_did_the_oslo_killer_want

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:05 PM
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1. 3 words. Scary. Hindsight. Coward.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:06 PM
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2. That's not the Norway I know.
This guy is a total weirdo.

I hope that this guy does not ruin Norway's reputation as a place of peace.
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AverageJoe90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:28 PM
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6. Agreed. =(
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:00 PM
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21. He certainly ruined it's status as such...
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:21 PM
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3. k & r
Thanks for this.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:24 PM
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4. he failed to
mention that he lived with his mom.

Some "Justiciar Knight Commander."
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:06 PM
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10. A stereotypical freeper.
Lives with his mother, has this fantasy world where he's a hero; poses in his "heroic" uniforms. Unfortunately, this turdball acted on his sick fantasies.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:25 PM
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5. I shouldn't be laughing, but that is the most ridiculous looking rifle i've seen
Get a few more accessories, buddy.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:57 PM
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7. He didn't age well.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:03 PM
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8. Does he have the ALEC handbook??,,,




"Our purpose," the document reads, is to "seize political and military control of Western European countries and implement a cultural conservative political agenda."
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:05 PM
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9. That collection of outfits he wears at the end of the video
makes me wonder whether he was trying out for The Village People.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:12 PM
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11. if that were posted on any of the gun forums I frequent -- it would be met with howls of laughter

and endless epic mocking. No one would take him seriously.

Now, knowing what he did, its just sad.

Oh my, is that a Ruger Ranch Rifle? There's no pistol grip, the VFG is mounted on barrel because there is no rail, those ports in the handguard look familiar. The mag is skinny and has a slight bend to it. I don't know how the EoTech and magnifier are mounted.


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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:15 PM
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12. I posted this in LBN and was asked if I was posting gun porn
Told poster to complain to Foreign Policy Blog.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:37 PM
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14. Obviously he handled the not-so-serious weaponry just fine didn't he?
Sorry but it's more than sad, its tragic. To nit-pick that the weaponry isn't exactly perfect doesn't mask the deadly result.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:54 PM
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17. The results of his actions is tragic and sad.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 09:55 PM by aikoaiko
I'm not nitpicking his weapon. I'm trying to describe how bizarre this guy was. If it were a car it would be a Kia with a spoiler and drag racing tires. I write this because the average person may not realize how strange it looks.

I certainly do not intend to mask the horror of his actions.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:32 PM
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13. Is his mom rich? He seems to have everything....
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:37 PM
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:45 PM
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16. i went to stormfront this morning and they will only let members in...
i registered there 5 yrs ago but i forgot my user name and password. they used to have a section open to anyone who wanted to post but now only members have access. i guess they are trying to hide now.

i bet he`s a hero of the storm troopers. a dead commie is a good commie even if they are children.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:55 PM
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18. "Open Forums" at Stormfront were closed last night

Scrub-a-dub-dub...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:46 PM
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20. thanks...i was going to re-register but my email accounts are to public
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:00 AM
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26. It's open again

In one of the relevant threads, you'll see people quoting previous posts lauding this guy, but the posts being quoted are not there.

True to form, they have concluded that this is the work of Zionists.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 02:42 PM
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31. ya that guy really looked like a zionist......
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:57 PM
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19. That's one fucked up Nazi a-hole. Typical anti-Marxist, Bible-banging shithead nt
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 09:57 PM by Sarah Ibarruri
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:11 PM
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22. Notice he doesn't say "my purpose" he says "our purpose"
While it could just be semantics he talks as though he is speaking on behalf of a group, it is almost an acknowledgement that he was not working alone.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:17 PM
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23. Or maybe he's just a coward. n/t
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:38 PM
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25. There are A lot of nasty things I can say about the guy, but coward isn't one of them
He sacrificed everything he had for this horrific act, that is the sign of a psychopath but not a coward. He was not cowardly he was totally fearless, and that makes him even more frightening.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:05 AM
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27. Rather than taking on anyone who could hurt him, he dressed as a cop and shot young people
he is a coward.
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Search and Destroy Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:11 AM
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28. +1
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:20 AM
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29. While I see your point I still would not call him a coward...
Edited on Sun Jul-24-11 12:20 AM by Bjorn Against
He knew going into this that he would almost certainly end up either dead or in prison, he may have went for what he considered easy targets but he still no doubt knew he was not going to get away without consequences. I don't think he was a coward, I think he was something FAR WORSE than a coward.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:32 AM
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30. I see your point also. Either way, he is a psychopath and caused a lot of anguish.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 04:20 PM
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32. Could not agree with you more on that point.
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white_wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:19 PM
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24. It reminds me a lot of the incident that happened a few years back with Nazi group called the Order
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 11:19 PM by white_wolf
They based their ideas of a Nazi book called the Turner Diaries, which the FBI has called the Bible of the racist Right, that talked about a White Revolution. The book also inspired the Oklahoma City bombing. Their Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Order_%28group%29

Turner Diaries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Diaries
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