Walker cuts DMV in Dem districts (WI) now that voter ID is passed

[iwishiwas]

Source: teamsternation




Saturday, July 23, 2011
Walker cuts DMV in Dem districts now that voter ID is passed
By Lester Dore


Brazen power grab. That's the only way to describe Koch whore Gov. Scott Walker's latest attack on working families in Wisconsin.

Progressivetoo reports,

The Wisconsin legislature is finalizing a bill to close ten Department of Motor Vehicle centers located in Democratic districts within the state. The money saved will be used to extend operating hours at DMV centers in Republican districts. These cuts come on the heels of new voter ID laws that require voters to present a state-issued photo identification card at the poll booths.

The law is so restrictive that student IDs, even if they have a picture on them, can't be used to vote. ..............

Read more: http://teamsternation.blogspot.com/2011/07/walker-cuts-dmv-in-dem-districts-now.html

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There are no words for this power grab. damn!!

[Avalux]

1. Holy crap! This guy is really something....

how much do you wanna bet the same thing happens here in Texas? We just passed a voter ID law, thanks to the Puke Congress and the Goodhair holy ruler.

[iwishiwas]

3. I wonder if this comes out of the ALEC playbook!!

[Avalux]

11. Im sure it does....

Puke governors were instructed to destroy when elected.

[Thegonagle]

15. Ongoing instruction. The one who were elected are not the ones in charge. nt

[Doctor_J]

48. Losing an election does not mean you forfeit all of your constitutional rights

you "elections have consequences" parrots are out of your minds.

[leftyohiolib]

83. elections DO have consequences just take a look a wisconsin

"Losing an election does not mean you forfeit all of your constitutional rights" again it does look at wisconsin. maybe you dont lose them you just will have no way to use them. republicans dont care about the constitution they have the supreme court. remember what dumbya said about the constitution he swore to defend? if that makes me a parrot then so be it.
when they arrest you for trying to legally get into the state's house. you (not you personally)can shout all you want about your "rights" but youre still going to jail. then in 7 years when(if) your case goes to the supreme court. the verdict will be 5-4 against you. what constitution.
elections DO have consequences

[midnight]

69. I was thinking the same thing...

[radhika]

71. Lest We Forget: ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES n/t

[alp227]

2. Scott Walker and those who wrote these bills belong in federal prison.

The Justice Dept. needs to initiate a violation of the Voting Rights Act NOW!!!!!

[Yon_Yonson]

10. The feds won’t help because I am beginning to think it’s all connected

This massive CLUSTERFUCK in DC and all the fascists’ tin horn state dictators like Herr Walker. When is enough ... enough? When will the peoples of America go on a general strike like they do it Europe? Hit the NEOCONS, corporate amerika and their political whores in their pocketbooks and make them bleed greenback.

[socialist_n_TN]

18. That's what it will take Yon

And here it will take an INDEFINITE general strike. Along with a payment strike on unsecured bank loans.

[targetpractice]

4. Just like Jeb Bush put the lousy voting machines in FL dem districts in 2000...

Democratic districts got punch cards with up to 10% error rates, and Republican districts got the optical scan ballots with super accurate .01% error rates.

That's true election fraud happening under the guise of preventing voter fraud.

The 2012 election is going to be a huge clusterfuck.

[Scuba]

5. He also eliminated the Statewide Registration Deputy program...

...which used to certify people to register voters across the State.

Now if one wants to register voters in three different municipalities, one must be certified by each of those municipalities.


Voter suppression: for when you can't win on policy.

[sybylla]

79. Seems to me like this would hurt Republicans.

Live in a city which more than likely has a high liberal population and becoming a SRD means going to one Clerk - the city clerk.

Live in a rural area where the voters are predominantly, you have to visit every town and village clerk to register voters. You can't even be certified by the county clerk to register within the county.

[IDemo]

6. Hasn't this reached a point where the FEC should be involved?

This couldn't possibly be any more blatant.

[Kolesar]

101. Voting Rights Act?

I see discrimination of one type.

[msongs]

7. there was a time in the USA when the federal government would investigate this sort of thing but now

top mangement doesn't much care about voter suppression issues apparently.

[madrchsod]

36. state elections...but the federal elections may be another thing....

[bluestate10]

38. Always a dig at President Obama, huh? Even when federal control of state level

elections has historically been limited. Feds have power to act when federal elections to the House, Senate and Presidency are impacted.

[hobbit709]

53. you think this Voter ID plan doesn't have any effect on federal elections?

[bluestate10]

56. No. Because organized voters that are using their heads can overcome

Walker's unconstitutional power play. The people that are at risk are the ones that sit around wringing their hands. Walker is pissing into wind, even he must recognize that, even if the far Left does not.

[hobbit709]

58. So the average voter is just pissing in the wind?

What is the actual percentage of activists in either party compared to the actual voters.

[bluestate10]

88. Why do you distort words? Wisconsin voters are on course to stop Walker.

It is Walker that is pissing in the wind. Walker and republican goons have awaken a strain of political activism, even among people that are not activists by profession, that awakening in the end will send Walker to the dustbin of history, defeated.

[mascarax]

8. Just gets worse - he must go in the recall - time to donate again for Senate Recalls

Because this isn't just going to be Wisconsin...the ALEC money and agenda is in so many states.

I hadn't heard before about how severe the student ID restrictions would be.

[iwishiwas]

19. Thanks for donating what you can.

[bluestate10]

39. During the past week, I donated to two democratic candidates in the recall and

to ActBlue to give to all democratic candidates running to take republican seats and hold the two remaining democratic seats that are up for recall. I want constitutional order restored in Wisconsin. If republicans prevail there our nation is in trouble indeed.

[elocs]

9. At this point we cannot help what Walker does, we can only do what we can do.

No more whining and crying because Walker is who he is and does what he does. We need to work hard to overcome this and do what needs to be done.

Walker and the Rethugs don't play by any set of pretty rules--they do what they need to do to win and to hold onto power. We need to be stronger and smarter than they are and never stop fighting and never give up.

[RBInMaine]

27. Yeah, so RECALL all 6 six of those fucking PUKE senators then RECALL WalkFucker in the winter.

[elocs]

29. You already know we are working on that. I was thinking along the lines

of helping those who need IDs to get them, just like we would help people get rides to the polls if they needed them. We need to do what we can do rather than wring our hands over what is out of our hands.

[Gin]

73. exactly...beat him at his own game.....help get ID'S for those that

need them.....can't change "what is" right now....so...take action and beat him while he is still in office..

I was thinking of doing this is Va gets the same repressive laws..

Good luck Wisconsin....we are all proud of you guys for keeping up the good fight..

[dragonlady]

97. Helping people get IDs

This will involve more than just taking them to the DMV to sign up for a free ID. The process there will require the person to present a birth certificate (or passport) to prove name and date of birth. How does one get that document if he or she doesn't have one now? Most states require that you send a photocopy of your PHOTO ID in order to get a birth certificate. So it's a vicious circle. Even if applicants can be helped with the required fee for a birth certificate, the photo ID requirement would be a stumbling block. On the other hand, this may ultimately be the grounds for a successful challenge of the voter ID law in court.

[bluestate10]

31. EXACTLY!!! What disgusts me with some on DU is the tendency to complain

and freeze when republicans are pulling unconstitutional bullshit. That is when they are not voting for detractors like Ralph Nader or listening to misguided froth mouths like Hamsher. So what is Walker cuts DMV hours in democratic districts, find out the hours and organize to get registrants into the offices to sign up for licenses. Do that process every freaking day until massive numbers of voters are registered and are pissed off at Walker and republicans. Get those voters to polls during the senate recall of republicans to eliminate them and to protect the seats of the two remaining democrats that are up for recall. Then in January, start the recall petitions that will end Walker's reign. Once Walker and republican goons have been recalled, push leaders to undue the unconstitutional and anti-worker actions of re-thugs.

[elocs]

33. Exactly, and we have months to get our plans concerning IDs together.

Action is better than hand wringing or complaining about those nasty Republicans.

The ID law does not become law until next year. I know I will be asked for an ID when I go to vote at my country clerk's office on Monday for the recall election here in La Crosse where I Democrat Jen Shilling is going to whup Kapanke, but like last time I will say "no" because I know the law.

This is an area where we can take control of things even if the Republicans are making it harder. They did it to weaken us but taking action empowers us. It can be done.

[MadMaddie]

80. Look I am willing to send money to organizations to bus

folks to get registered if that what it takes.

We still have not seen the worst of what is going to happen.....

Every vote or non-vote counts and I am tired of hearing people say they are thinking about voting for Dems when all of the evidence like Walker, the Koch brothers and other Facist pieces of shit are destroying the country. Wake up folks, this is not a game these are the consequences whether you like them or not.

Let's kick their asses and make sure they never rise again.

[RaleighNCDUer]

85. It's not 'whining' - and you DO realize, don't you, that countering

this move eats up man-hours and funds that would otherwise be used in voter registration drives that we would normally have anyway. We waste time and cash just bringing the bar back up to 'zero'. That means less available for expanding the base, which is necessary to kicking the criminals out.

So don't preach with the "it's all good" crap.

It ain't.

[bluestate10]

89. Getting people registered is a registration drive. People that vote are

not going to allow themselves to be denied their right to vote. The key elements are people that had not voted but are upset with Walker and his republican goons, those are the people to get registered and get to polls. If the first election in the recall season in Wisconsin is any indication, Walker and republicans are in deep trouble.

[RaleighNCDUer]

102. And by closing the DMV offices they are making it not just difficult but, for

some, impossible to get the official state ID which will allow them to register. So now the simple registration drive is vastly more complicated since to register someone you have to get their supporting documents, drive them 10 - 20 miles to an open DMV office, get their ID, and THEN register them.

In a painfully tight economy, this will be beyond the resources of the ordinary registration drive.

This is blatant vote suppression, not 'business as usual'. And it WILL cost the Dems and hurt the Dems. You can't pretend it won't.

[66 dmhlt]

12. Probably just my 2nd Manhattan talking, but I say F▼CK HIM & F▼CK All Repubicans

[Bozita]

21. +1

:toast:

[Historic NY]

13. Somebody needs to take him out completely in the courts.....keep

him tied up defending his edicts,

[cyberpj]

59. Agreed. But the machine behind him is now so big I'm betting those who would do such a thing

would either be paid off or coincidentally dead before long.

[Yon_Yonson]

14. Read this Herr Walker you SCREW US AND WE MULTIPLY

[TomCADem]

16. Once Again, There Is A Big Difference Between Republicans and Democrats

[targetpractice]

22. Let me try...

Republicans use the letter of the law as weapon... to do everything legally possible to ensure only the most votes for their candidate are counted.

Democrats believe in the spirit of justice... let everyone cast votes and count all the votes to determine the will of the people.

[Bjorn Against]

23. Yes there is a difference, Republicans steal elections and Democrats just look the other way.

[blkmusclmachine]

54. And call it "bi-partisanship."

n/t

[They_Live]

17. One of the only articles

in the past 90 days that makes me think of the word "pummel".

[liberal N proud]

20. What the fuck?

:wtf: are they afraid to let people vote?


Because they know it is the only way they can retain power.

[pansypoo53219]

24. keep digging napoleon stupid.

recall getting ,more ammo. democrats need to drive those w/out the IDs to the DMV.

[bluestate10]

37. Yes. Let the bastard dig the grave that he will be buried in. nt

[Sportsguy]

52. God, I Love The way That Sounds

Refreshing!

[ladjf]

25. Is that move legal? nt

[bluestate10]

35. Who gives a shit? Beat the bastard at his own game. Organize and get

democratic voters registered and get them to understand why them MUST vote to recall republicans and protect the two remaining democratic senators. And early next year, get that bastard Walker out of office.

[ladjf]

64. I don't disagree with your suggestions. However, if he has broken

the law, his ouster would be much easier.

[bluestate10]

67. Recalling him and voting him out is the fastest route by far. nt

[RBInMaine]

26. Quit bitching and get to work on pledges to organize to RECALL this horrid motherfucker.

[RBInMaine]

28. If anyone, ANYONE even dares to say D's are ANYTHING like RePUKEs, SHAME on YOU.

The Republicans Party is EVIL. That's right. FUCKING EVIL ! Dems don't come anywhere near to this kind of FACIST, HITLER-LIKE EVIL shit.

Recall those 6 pigfucking state senators, then recall the pigfucker in chief.

[elocs]

30. Well, that is a pretty common mantra here at DU. n/t

[bluestate10]

32. That is a common charge on DU. Many are completely blind, or, are sock puppet plants. nt

[madrchsod]

34. i guess republicans can`t vote in those districts either...

i guess they`ll have to buss people to the dmv`s across wisconsin.

by the way, how are they going to reverse this policy in the federal elections?

[bluestate10]

40. Why worry about what Walker does? Beat the bastard at his game.

Organize, get voters registered and as Walker impacts their lives negatively, get voters that would have voted for him or republicans to turn on the bastards. The hand wringing by DU types that don't hesitate to rip President Obama for any perceived slight when those people have a path to prevent republican shenanigans locally illustrates why democrats lose elections that we should win.

[madrchsod]

41. actually i wrote that wrong...

i meant the democrats will have to buss or drive by car to get people registered... the hell with the republicans if they think they are`t getting screwed too.

to bad this is`t a federal election.

[Nailzberg]

42. I give up.

Gonna miss football on Sundays, not much else. Bye, America.

[LiberalFighter]

43. Wisconsin will need to reverse control of both chambers of the General Assembly

and the Mansion in order to reverse the bad legislation.

[recadna]

44. Walker had thought that too

The new WI re-distrcting map, which was rushed through before the re-call elections, was gerrymandered to make sure pukes control the legistalive for the next ten years. Just google "WI redistrcting"

[Doctor_J]

49. It will be way too late by then

and as you can see voting (D) is WI will be nearly impossible. Need to think in terms of explosions and such

[Ellipsis]

45. A couple of blue hairs I know have to drive 20 miles to a DMV.

This is a big problem.

[juajen]

46. I really hope you are not referring to the elderly as "blue hairs".

That is very objectionable.

[juajen]

47. I really hope you are not referring to the elderly as "blue hairs".

This is very objectionable.

[Yon_Yonson]

63. I never head the term ‘blue hair’

So I looked it up:

An old person who’s white hair appears blue. Usually it is the only thing you can see over the steering wheel of the car they are driving.

So now I am a blue hair well to tell the truth I been called worst. I am a blue hair standing side by side on the picket line with other Wisconsinites fighting back against a NEOCON prick that’s ruining this great State of Wisconsin.

[elocs]

78. Then we need to help them & anyone else who needs an ID to get one.

We cannot just complain and shake our fists at something that cannot be immediately changed. We need to be proactive and to do whatever needs to be done to counter the moves of the Republicans.

[MrScorpio]

50. This sounds like an opportunity for liberals to invade right wing districts

Busing people en masse to those DMV offices to get their IDs.

I would just love to see the faces of the Walker supporters when they go to their local DMV and see a roomful of Democratic voters standing in line.

[progressoid]

51. k/r

[Warren Stupidity]

This has to be challenged in the courts.

This is a re-institution of voter discrimination from the Jim Crow era of the south.

[Warren Stupidity]

55. This has to be challenged in the courts.

This is a re-institution of voter discrimination from the Jim Crow era of the south.

[RyanPsych]

57. Take a picture folks

this is what Democracy looks like when it is dying

[glinda]

60. Blatant acts of violating the Constitution. Why is he not in jail? Portions

of Washington should call him into be questioned.

[Yon_Yonson]

62. Because the NEOCONS control the WI Supreme Kangaroo Court

[Overseas]

61. This really sounds like sick satire. Is ALEC that cruel?

I guess I know the answer to that one.

Not enough to make it much tougher to register. They need to make it super extra tough.

Paul Weyrich must be so proud that his legacy has lived on. The right wing needs a lot fewer voters because the majority opposes their ideas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw = link to video of Weyrich statement on wanting fewer people to vote.

[Drahthaardogs]

65. This is beyond imagination.

This is truly something Communist Soviet Union or China would do. To see this happening in America is stifling. What is worse is that there are many a Republican who fail to see the loss of liberty and democracy, and instead will applaud these actions because it helps "their side".

[SHRED]

66. What a dick

[Juche]

68. I admire that

Pretty brazen. Admirable in a way due to that.

[indurancevile]

70. wtf? how machiavellian.

[NYC Liberal]

72. How about the 14th Amendment, section 2:

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

[Enthusiast]

74. This is why Walker and Kasich are so arrogant.

There are several mechanisms in place that assure future Republican victories.

[orbitalman]

75. K & R

[WCGreen]

76. Such Patriots these guys are....

KnR

[pam4water]

77. OMG K&R n/t

[caseymoz]

81. Any pretense this is not voter suppression is now gone.

You might say, Walker has tipped his hand and will pay.

[cascadiance]

82. Time to call in the feds to enforce the Voting Rights Act on this FU--ER!!!

We don't need any more of this bastard's Korporate Kochaine Koolaid!!!

[NICO9000]

84. He will do as much evil as he possibly can

He knows he's toast once they're finally able to recall him. In the meantime, he probably has another 12 months to destroy his state even more. I'm really sorry that the good people in WI have to suffer at the hands of this monster, all thanks to the idiots in their state who welcome fascism with open arms.

[in_cog_ni_to]

86. Go to the nearest sporting goods store and get a fishing license.

It's cheap too. I cannot wait until that bastard is sent packing and I don't even live in the state. My heart goes out to Wisconsinites. G-d that man needs to be out of office TODAY.

[bluestate10]

90. Fishing or hunting licenses. Even if neither is used for nothing but voting.

Walker and his thugs are trying to buffer their forces, they will win only if progressives are so put out with buying hunting and fishing licenses to ensure their vote.

[in_cog_ni_to]

94. The Dems in the state need to let it be known where people can buy the licenses

and let it be known they are the most affordable. MAYBE, the DNC could create a 'fund' for paying for licenses. Or Dems could create a new organization that helps poor people buy them. Raise the money, drive people to the store to get them and have the organization pay for them. I wonder if that's legal? Hmmm. There has to be a way to make buying fishing and hunting licenses EASIER and convenient for everyone. Online? https://jc.activeoutdoorsolutions.com/wi_public/goHome.do

[dragonlady]

98. Fishing license will not work for voting

I don't know if a fishing or hunting license bears a photo (I suspect not, since it can be ordered online). However, the acceptable photo IDs under the new law are only DOT-issued driver's license or ID. U.S. passport, military ID, tribal ID or certificate of naturalization. Student IDs would be acceptable if they include certain features but none of them do at present and it would take millions of dollars for the colleges to change them.

However, a fishing license would probably be useful for proving residency when registering to vote. I heard that our intrepid former Attorney General, Peg Lautenschlager, took her daughter out to get one when she needed proof of residency. This points out another terrible part of this new voting law. Previously you could prove residency by having another person corroborate for you (parent, neighbor, friend). That was ended. How many 18-year-olds have something in their own name to prove where they live (utility bill, bank statement) if they don't have a driver's license? Same goes for older people who live with friends. It's insane.

[UrbScotty]

87. Sickening. "No difference between Democrats and Republicans," my ASHCROFT.

[pwb]

91. Seems to me this law will mostly hurt their republican base, Seniors

Who can not drive and let their license expire.

[Liberal_in_LA]

92. wow. :-(

[DFW]

93. So when budget spending cuts loom....

It's OK to give Obama the authority to cancel all federal aid to states that elected Republican governors?

And when Walker is recalled, it will be OK to turn this practice around and have no voter rights in Republican districts?

Walker is setting Civil War-like precedents here. I doubt he knows it.

[mckara]

95. Violence Should Be on the Table in Wisconsin

It's time to wheel out the guillotine!

[Name removed]

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[upi402]

99. if only dems were as relentless

too many pre-cave on critical issues.

[Kolesar]

100. kick