The Norway terrorist writes about... Joss Whedon's Firefly/Serenity.

[ThatPoetGuy]

From his 1500-page manifesto:

"In the science fiction movie Serenity <61>, the two great superpowers, the United States and China, have merged into the Alliance, which has moved humanity to a new star system. On the little-known planet Miranda, a gas called Pax was added to the air processors. It was intended to calm the population, weed out aggression. It worked. The people stopped fighting. They also stopped doing everything else, including breeding and physical self-preservation. A small minority of the population had the opposite reaction to this pacification. Their aggression increased beyond madness, and they killed most of the others. Tens of millions of people quietly let themselves be wiped out.

Movie director Joss Whedon is careful to point out that the Alliance isn't some evil empire, but rather a force that is largely benevolent. They meant it for the best, to create a better world, a world without sin. However, according to Whedon, "Whenever you create Utopia, you find something ugly working underneath it."

This is the only reference to Whedon in this conservaterrorist manifesto. Most of his references are to US Neocons.

Daniel Pipes is quoted repeatedly, referenced as a source repeatedly, and several of his essays are reprinted in whole as part of the terrorist manifesto. Likewise for Pamela Geller, one of the creators of the "Ground Zero Mosque" hysteria. He says right-wing blogger Fjordman is his "favorite contemporary author." Fjordman's writing appears frequently in this conservaterrorist manifesto.

[Angry Dragon]

1. It sounds like Pipes, Gellar, Fjordman helped

create this monster

I wonder how that feels to know that by your actions you helped kill at least 87 people
Way to go people, I bet you are so proud of yourselves that you probably want to go out and party
They should be reminded of this every day for the rest of their lives

[Motown_Johnny]

2. I like that movie and TV series

and it has in no way turned me into some government hating psychopath.

[Ferret Annica]

4. Shiny, I agree.

I also don't see anyone becoming a mindless Reaver anytime soon, and I hope the series in some form or another comes back.

I miss Captain Reynolds and company.

[tsuki]

6. Have you met any Teabaggers? :)

[Ferret Annica]

8. Indeed. I talk on conservative forums and have recently been....

banned by a forum owned by one. I know them well, and do not agree with their anti Constitutional spin on things.

They seem to be more the sort who would like the failed Articles of Confederation that preceded the U.S. Constitution.

They do not understand that without a strong Federal Government there really is no U.S. of A.

[ThatPoetGuy]

5. Hey, I'm a big Whedon fan.

Buffy more than Firefly. I just shared this because I found it bizarre to see this passage wedged in between all the neocon psychos.

[AnnieBW]

3. It is what it is.

Firefly is a very anti-government kind of show, and a lot of libertarians seem to be attracted to it for that reason. However, Joss himself is very liberal, called in to Browncoat house parties that were organized for Obama, and has donated tons of money to LGBT causes.

[Shandris]

7. It's a very anti-authoritarian kind of show...

...and from that angle, it's rather successful. I find myself very anti-authoritarian, but likewise (obviously) liberal. That in no way means that being against an authoritarian government is a purely conservative mindset (although it is more prominent there, but not for the same reasons. Their reasons primarily stem from taxes.)

[Selatius]

9. He most likely liked Firefly because of its perceived anti-gov't stance.

The captain of Serenity was a Browncoat rebel who fought the central alliance in the war pitting the more civilized inner planets against the "less civilized" outer planets who simply wanted the freedom to live however they pleased. The Alliance felt it was bringing them order and a better way of life, while the rebels felt their way of life and freedom were being threatened.

Personally, Firefly was relatable in the sense that no matter the nobility of intentions, no gov't has the right to invade another's homeland to dictate what they can do or how to live, even if it is for their benefit. We have no right to meddle in the affairs of other people, and I thought that was applicable to Iraq.

Even though the Browncoats lost the devastating war, the Alliance was never able to stamp out entirely the spirit of resistance.