CNN: POTUS/VPOTUS, Reid, Pelosi meeting at WH at 6. Reid offers 2.5T cuts NO REVENUE

[Ruby the Liberal]

This is what CNN is reporting right now:

@LisaDCNN: DEBT - WHERE ARE WE?: H. GOP on conf. call now. Hoping for news/update in next hour. Dems meeting at WH 6p ET.

@LisaDCNN: NEW REID PLAN: "At least $2.5 T in deficit redux" w/ no revenue increases. BUT, unclear what baseline he's using and what he'd cut.

@LisaDCNN: NEW REID PLAN: Kudos to our @tedbarrettcnn for getting this scoop. More...

@LisaDCNN: BREAKING - NEW Dem. debt plan: Reid to offer at "least $2.5 Trillion" in deficit redux w/ no revenue increases, Dem. source tells CNN.



Edit - typo in title. Is 2.5T not 2.6T in cuts...

Since I can still edit - more from Lisa (I added it below as well):

@LisaDCNN: REID PLAN: Dem aide tells our @tedbarrettcnn they think it meets GOP call for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts with debt increase.

@LisaDCNN: REID PLAN: Another question (just me?) - what's in this for Dems? Feels like there must be another piece to this.

[DJ13]

1. "least $2.5 Trillion" in deficit redux w/ no revenue increases

Oh good.

Im glad our party is determined to hurt the lower classes, and treats it as its primary priority.

I would hate to get them confused with the Republicans.

:sarcasm:
:banghead:

[RKP5637]

2. Sounds like another cave in at a first glance. n/t

[titaniumsalute]

3. Jesus they really are the same party

Now they are arguing who will cut more and hurt the poor/middle class. The rich will just continue to get richer.

[obama14]

4. This sounds so bad.

Omg!

This sounds like such a bad plan - This is beyond a cave.

[defendandprotect]

5. We should be calling this "The Grand Scam" --

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. Lets see what happens. Could be another trial balloon just lifted off.

I will be FURIOUS if they cave without increasing revenues.

[defendandprotect]

29. Why would you accept any of this ... ? It's a scam --

As big a scam as Dems supporting these Bush wars for 5 years now --

When will it be too late for you?

When the last nuclear reactor is leaking?

When we have yet another BP "spill" in the Gulf?

When we invade Iran?

[Ruby the Liberal]

31. I don't accept it. Not in the least.

We went from suggesting 1.6T to 2.5T in cuts and from 1.2T revenue to 0? In 48 hours?

[defendandprotect]

32. The entire budget/debt "crisis" is a scam --

[Ruby the Liberal]

34. FDR is rolling in his grave that we haven't learned from his legacy.

Barack Hoover Obama indeed.

[defendandprotect]

37. Agree with you -- sadly --

And I'm quite sure this has been a depression almost from the very first --

we already had something like 15% unemployed long term -- and now evidently it

could be as high as 21% --

and only the occasional member of Congress has called it the "Great Recession" -- !!


FDR left behind such wonderful writings -- wish I had more time to read and quote them!!



:hi:

[AndyTiedye]

45. We Are at the Mercy of the Teabaggers

[Ruby the Liberal]

46. These guys?

:rofl:

[AndyTiedye]

51. Yes. You'll Notice the House is Empty. They Have Taken Their Ball and Gone Home

They'll make a killing on their ultrashort ETFs when we default.

[lamp_shade]

54. Love it. I just pasted it on my facebook. Thanks.

[indepat]

50. Like your style, your panache, your insights,

:thumbsup: :patriot:

[Ed Suspicious]

6. I raise my middle finger in salute to you arrogant pricks we elected as our leaders

if this comes to pass I say throw all the bums out. ALL of them. D and R alike.

[defendandprotect]

38. We've known from the first that Reid was useless ... we should have thrown them all out long ago!!

[Horse with no Name]

8. Signed, sealed and delivered with a big old stamp on it that says

"YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING FAILURES"

and I will do EVERYTHING to keep you and your fucking ilk out of office the next time.

Go feed your fat wallets at someone else's trough.

[RKP5637]

9. WTF did we vote in. n/t

[defendandprotect]

39. Corporate/fascism --

[RKP5637]

44. I am so disappointed in most things. I just feel anymore the D's just play

into the hands of the RW in many areas. I hope there are some primary challengers. I think it would be healthy for the country and the D party.

[defendandprotect]

49. We're all disappointed -- we need intelligence to overcome RW violence ....

and in all of human history that's never been done -- !!!


But, we're up next to give it a try!!! :evilgrin:


The biggest threat to us is Global Warming -- we're only now reaching the point of

feeling the effects of human activity up to 1960-!! 1960--!!!

The glaciers have been melting since the 1940's --- !!


Glacier melting will bring more numerous earthquakes -- and more severe earthquakes --

Earthquakes in turn will generate new volcanic activity --


Capitalism is suicidal --


We need to be shutting down the 106 nuclear reactors -- about two in every state --

before Global Warming proceeds any further --

May make the difference between a "whimper or a bang" -- !!




:hi:

[neverforget]

10. If this is true HOSTAGE TAKING WORKS....what's the next hostage?

[Ruby the Liberal]

11. More from Lisa Desjardins (CNN)

@LisaDCNN: REID PLAN: Dem aide tells our @tedbarrettcnn they think it meets GOP call for dollar-for-dollar spending cuts with debt increase.

@LisaDCNN: REID PLAN: Another question (just me?) - what's in this for Dems? Feels like there must be another piece to this.

[Parker CA]

18. Un-fucking-believable!

[WinkyDink]

12. Let's play pretend: Okay, now we are DEBT-FREE! NOW WHAT? Lower taxes for the RICH!

[WillyT]

13. Apparently Blackmail Works

:puke:

:evilfrown:

[defendandprotect]

40. Well ....

first came the Obama deception -- then came the fake blackmail --

[madinmaryland]

14. Wow! Talk about cryptic. I really don't know what the hell that says or means.

:shrug:

[Ruby the Liberal]

19. @LisaDCNN is her online username (Lisa Desjardins with CNN)

Following her username are her news updates as she is getting them.

She references "@tedbarrettcnn" which is the twitter feed of Ted Barrett with CNN, who has been talking with Dem aides today about the negotiations.

[Ruby the Liberal]

24. This may be easier

This is her feed. May be easier to read: http://twitter.com/#!/LisaDCNN

[madinmaryland]

36. OW. I just got a headache trying to read that.

[Ruby the Liberal]

47. Sorry!

It does take some getting used to.

:toast:

[Cetacea]

15. Apparently Reid didn't want to be left out of the slaughter

If this is accurate, it's disgusting.

[Tennessee Gal]

16. No revenue increases. I am hoping this is not true. nt

[Ruby the Liberal]

21. From your lips. It is blowing up on Twitter

made my blood run cold. PLEASE be a bad rumor or trial balloon!!

[Inuca]

41. I am not very good at tweeterese

could you suggest a good hashtag to follow this? Thanks.

[Inuca]

43. Nevermind, I answered my own question :-) n/t

[Ruby the Liberal]

48. What are you following?

Some people on my feed were quoting Lisa, so I have been checking her feed. WOuld appreciate anything you found useful!

[Inuca]

53. Not following people

went for hashtags #debt and #debtceiling. Of course the feed is full of noise, your way may be better.

[Ruby the Liberal]

55. Sorry - was indeed asking about # not @

Will check those out. I have a tendency to follow people who have a pulse on a current story (especially foreign correspondents) and then forget why I was following them a week later when I go back into the site and can't figure what they are on about . LOL!

Thanks!

[Inuca]

56. Give this a try

congressional blogger for the WP

@2chambers

[Ruby the Liberal]

57. I have seen that ID in RTs. Will add to my follows to see whats up

[sad sally]

17. But you can bet they will feel very sad, maybe even bad, they're

forced to accept the Republicans deal; they'll hang their head, pout their trembling lips, and quietly under their breaths, say, whew! thank goodness we will all still be able to leave this place for our month-long vacations. silly poor people; too bad they didn't get a good education, like us.

Now lets get those awful tax codes changed so those helpful corporations pay less.

[OmahaBlueDog]

20. I'm X-posting from LBN. Obama to meet with Dem leaders later tonight. Boehner says no deal yet

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4934088

Per MSNBC

[Ruby the Liberal]

22. Thanks for the link. I k&rd it for ya.

[lamp_shade]

23. "Dem source" "Dem aide" - sure.

[Mz Pip]

25. THere have been plenty of leaks

that have proved to be wrong. I'll take a wait and see approach to this one.

[Ruby the Liberal]

27. Here are the GOP Conf call leaks from CNN

@LisaDCNN Lisa Desjardins
DEBT - GOP Conf. Call: Still going on. Our @katebolduancnn getting v good information. Folo her and tweets coming here as well.
5 minutes ago

@LisaDCNN Lisa Desjardins
DEBT - GOP SUMMARY: Boehner, Cantor say no deal , GOP must stand ground. That Obama trying to set up GOP to raise debt w/no spending cuts.
4 minutes ago

@LisaDCNN Lisa Desjardins
DEBT - GOP more: sources conveying to @deirdrewalshcnn, @katebolduancnn a conf. call that sounds (to me) like anti-Obama, GOP Unite rally.
2 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/#!/LisaDCNN

[lamp_shade]

33. One CNN radio reporter getting tweets from "dem source" and "dem aide".

[Ruby the Liberal]

35. 4 actually. 2 Talking with Dem aids and 2 on the GOP Ccall

Like I said, we shall wait and see.

[The Hitman]

26. My policy is to not trust Tweets as substantive news

Don't get all worked up yet. Just wait a few hours...

[Ruby the Liberal]

30. Cautiously optimistic at this point...

But as usual, disturbed that they are floating this out there. Again.

:hi:

[Middle finga]

28. Now I see why Boener walked out

Why settle for 85% of what you want when you can get a 100% with no concessions. Repubs know they are dealing with a president that has no core beliefs and really no principles so all Boener have to do is hold out and he can get anything he want from Obama.

[obama14]

42. Asian Markets up... Dollar is up 5%

Something is in the works, and it doesn't look good for us.

[Doctor_J]

52. And when the Repukes sweep next year's elections, we'll be blamed

for "not showing up"

I am getting to despise "moderate" Dems as much as I do teabaggers and Big Media

[Gin]

58. blackmail works....

[Ruby the Liberal]

59. CNN: REID traded 2013 for no revenue

@LisaDCNN: DEBT DEAL: Reid just put out statement. Dems rejected short-term GOP offer. Dems offer $2.7 T deal that cuts spending, dsn't raise revenues.

Me - earlier reports were 2.5T, so we shall see tomorrow. If this is true, they are protecting the 2012 elections on the back of those who can least afford it in order to pay for the BushObama tax cuts. No idea where this "Reid statement" is published, this is a CNN twitter feed.

[mzmolly]

60. No COLA adjustment

either.

[mmonk]

61. The answer to last one is they still get to be considered the loyal opposition.