Open Thread for Listing ANY Republican Figures Willing to Condemn Right Wing Violent Talk and Images

[Tom Rinaldo]

For the sake of this thread a small allowance will be made to include a Republican who attacks over heated political rhetoric "on both sides" IF AND ONLY IF that Republican openly accepts that the most dangerous problem and the vast majority of violent threats and incidents have originated on the Right.

Nominees?

Anyone?

[rfranklin]

1. Crickets chirping....

bees buzzing.

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[elehhhhna]

2. It's ONLY been 36 hours.

[lillypaddle]

3. Short lived thread, I'm afraid

:(

[HereSince1628]

4. Actually, James Sennsenbrenner R-Wisconsin videoed at his hometown

gathering said that shortly after the shooting, and he looked like he meant it.

I'm not a fan of Jimmy at all, but he said what he said.

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. I would love to see that video

and if it was as you describe, he deserves some supportive emails for his honesty on this, given how hard it seems to be for most in his party to admit this.

[HereSince1628]

10. Sennsenbrenner visits with the district more than most, I think he realized

that when he does this there is now no denying the risk.

He seemed legitimately shaken.

[Cirque du So-What]

5. Not gonna happen

although I've seen a lot of repugs 'splainin' why it's not their fault. A wise man once told me, 'if yer 'splainin,' yer losin'!' There's no shortage of 'pugs on TV shoveling boatloads of manure, but not a mother's one of them has the integrity to admit a scintilla of responsibility for what has happened.

[emulatorloo]

7. bookmarking n/t

[seabeyond]

8. are we including the repugs that incite and encourage and then in disaster take it back?

need to know the rules

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. I would say so, I think they would be the rarest of a rare breed

...if they directly or indirectly incited violence and now take some personal responibility for personally having fed the atmoshere of hate that led to this type trajedy.

But their names would need to be listed with a special * next to it if they don't also conceed that most of this problem has been originating on the right

[seabeyond]

11. therein lies the rub. i didnt read the whole post of taking responsibility. blank... lol. nt

[freshwest]

14. Those are their rules!!!

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[freshwest]

13. Duncan Hunter (R-ong) came out against it. But look at his region... Eewww.

I posted it last night while googling for link for a quote posted here from Filner in CA about the Gifford shooting, but never found it.

What I have found this morning looking at some other websites is the RW squealing that liberals are being unfair to them. They're serial abusers and play the victim and perpetrator game perfectly.

Oops, wait, I'm not GOP, so should I be posting?

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. You don't have to be a Republican to LIST someone , silly :)

Did Hunter actually admit that the Right has been behind most of the dangerous hate and violence rhetoric and actions in politics? He does not count if all he did was condemn the violence of the shooting and talk about us all being Americans united etc. etc. If those type thoughts are sincere I welcome them, but they carry no political risk to utter, and they lack taking any personal responsibility for not countering the increasing tendency of SOME Conservative supporters and activists to cross that line.

[freshwest]

19. No, he didn't disavow RW rhetoric. Here's the quote:

'10News also talked to East County Congressman Duncan D. Hunter about Rep. Giffords. The two serve together on the Armed Services Committee.'

"I was disgusted and horrified by what happened," said Hunter.

'Hunter said the two also helped each other on border security issues. He spoke of Giffords' sunny personality.'

"She was always happy; she was always joking around because during this last election, we were helping one of the guys who was running against her… she kind of ribbed me good, naturally," he said.'

I didn't find that meaningful and felt the writer was too generous:

'Further evidence that party membership doesn’t matter when it comes to the tragic events in Tucson is a joint statement by the heads of San Diego’s Republican and Democratic parties.'

'In part, the statement from Tony Krvaric and Jess Durfee reads, "We must not allow cowards who seek to address political differences with violence to threaten our commitment to the principles of our democracy. In San Diego, we stand together Saturday and say that violence has no place in politics, not here, and never again."'

Here's the link:

http://www.10news.com/news/26414235/detail.html

But not one GOP or Tea Party spokesperson will own up to what they've done. Why didn't they police their own ranks, distance themselves? I believe they wanted their votes and didn't care how many people got hurt or how much damage they did to the country.

When googling last night and finding that link, I came across a story about the GOP candidate who lost to Filner in CA and he has not disavowed violence. Here are two links:

http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/4690

http://lastblogonearth.com/2010/11/05/white-power-popad... /

While I know some of the really radical people don't like the GOP, either, I don't believe the GOP are losing anything by this event. I'm not GOP, nor am I a GOP apologist.

[Tom Rinaldo]

17. It shouldn't be this hard.

These are for the most part politicians with staffs devoted to communications to help them. Hell, I would settle for something like this:

"I'll leave it to the pundits to debate whether one side or another is home to most of the violent rhetoric and deeds. What I can say for certain is that too much of it has come from people who claim to share some of the core beliefs of my party, the Republican Party, and that simply is unacceptable. We have a responsibility to get our own house in order before we go off looking for others to blame. I call on all of my own supporters, and those who claim to share what I and my party believe in, to renounce all calls for violence and all veiled references to threats of violence from political debate in our country. It has gotten far out of hand and it seems like all of us, and I am including myself and speaking directly to my Republican friends and colleagues here, have not done enough to deplore and repudiate the hatred that is being spread in the guise of principled political debate. There should be no room for that in the Republican Party or in our nation as a whole"


See, how hard is that?

[Arrowhead2k1]

18. Rethuglicans are spiteful creatures by nature. They will NEVER admit faults or responsibility.

Instead they will unify to feign outrage and condemn the left for daring to state the obvious. Just watch.

[freshwest]

20. Already happening, already in full swing!

[Tom Rinaldo]

21. Kicking to prolong the search

I wrote in a post above that at this point I would welcome hearing about any Republican who was willing to take some clear responsibility for the Right needing to get its own house in order. If they need the fig leaf cover of claiming there are "problems on both sides" so be it. I'll gag and swallow it IF they are willing to call out a Limbaugh, a Beck, a Palin, or even acknowledge that sane Republicans have an obligation to challenge Rightists who make statements about "Second Amendment Solutions" and "this time ballots, next time bullets if ballots don't work".

The fact that none are willing to go even that far is truly frightening, and illustrates exactly how far peaceful political dialog in this country has degraded.