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Sun Jan-09-11 08:20 PM
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As demographics will inevitably extinguish the GOP at polls, what have they got left BUT violence? |
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Seriously, in 2000 and 2004, they had to use every trick in the book to get close enough to a vote total for the presidency that they could credibly claim they won.
Their alienation of blacks and especially Latinos leaves the GOP no room for real growth in numbers, instead, they must rely on the stumblefuckery and failure of the Democrats to distance themselves from the GOP and thereby depress the Democratic vote, but even that will only work temporarily. But eventually, the GOP's base of angry, frightened, white racists will shrivel to political inconsequence.
The DLC Democrats seem to be positioning themselves as the reliable stewards of Wall Street's interests, but some of the very wealthy chafe at even the token regulatory restraints corporate Dems impose to placate voters who pay attention. And that all-or-nothing faction of the wealthy might also realize that the corporate lackeys within the Democratic Party are outnumbered and could eventually be ousted through a concerted effort by progressive pols and grassroots groups--especially as the GOP becomes a less and less credible boogie man for the lesser of two evils corporate Democrats to threaten us with.
Since the GOP will no longer be able to win at the polls, and the corporate takeover of the Democrats will always be in danger of being undone, what tools do the hardcore oligarchs have left but violence?
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Sun Jan-09-11 08:26 PM
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1. I was thinking the same thing... |
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the real powers behind the teabaggers will probably not cease and desist even after they are irreversibly trounced at the polls. That's why the growth of private mercenary armies has been so troubling. I would not be surprised if people like the Koch brothers are also financing covert groups in the military itself.
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Sun Jan-09-11 08:27 PM
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2. "But eventually, the GOP's base of angry, frightened, white racists will shrivel |
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to political inconsequence." Well Said.
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Sun Jan-09-11 08:34 PM
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3. That point is the most salient. |
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Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 08:35 PM by bluestate10
The GOP needs to keep as many people as possible poorly educated and basically ignorant of the world around them. Educated people by and large reject the party outright or become the more liberal or moderate voices in it. Angry whites that fueled the GOP's southern strategy are starting to die off, even as they flood voting booths. But time is always the winner, in a decade or less, the GOP will be well down the road to irrelevance. A two party system is more likely going to be maintained due a split in the democratic party once the GOP is dead.
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Sun Jan-09-11 09:46 PM
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4. Educating the white racists will help little. |
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They need to be terrified into giving up their backward views.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:50 PM
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6. the old farts would rather starve to death than admit blacks and Latinos (or anyone else) is as |
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human as them.
But their kids grew up in at least a nominally desegregated world, so the fear and hatred is not as deeply entrenched, and their kids will wonder why grandma and grandpa bitch about the blacks and Latinos so much even as they are being cared for by them in their nursing homes.
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:26 PM
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7. Yep, it's getting more difficult to keep the charade propped up as time goes by. |
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And it shows in many different ways.
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:31 PM
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:50 PM
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9. sometimes the shoe does fit. If you think the two parties are only as different as sports teams |
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maybe you should spend more time watching ESPN and less in politics.
Certain ideas attract certain kinds of people, and ideas have real consequences.
For example, while I disagree with Obama's version of healthcare reform, those who opposed it would have been perfectly happy with people continuing to go bankrupt or even dying to protect insurance companies right to obscene profits.
I don't have particularly strong views on immigration, but I'm pretty sure there is no issue where lefties do the equivalent of sitting in lawn chairs at the border shooting at poor people trying to sneak into the country nor do we advocate the genocide of adherents to one of the world's major religions.
Do you live in Washington, DC or only get your news from TV or what?
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:55 PM
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10. I live in California, where the Latino population has a way of defying assumptions and labels |
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It's not safe to assume that a burgeoning Latino or Black population guarantees stronger Democratic majorities in the future.
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Mon Jan-10-11 03:58 PM
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13. I live in CA too, and Latinos are not as reliably Democrats as blacks, but the GOP seems to be doing |
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everything possible to make it so.
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Mon Jan-10-11 03:19 PM
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11. I agree. The reason social conservatives are so angry is because they know... |
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that they will never, ever win the "culture war."
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Mon Jan-10-11 03:36 PM
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12. Have you ever been to the midwest or the south? |
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Conservatives are reproducing themselves just fine and there's no danger they're ever going to go out of style in those areas.
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Tue Jan-11-11 01:04 PM
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14. In rural areas maybe, but even there, farmers seem to be increasingly drawn to illegal immigrant |
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labor, which will eventually change the demographics there as well.
Also, they don't affect the overall trend any more than Hawaii having a lot of Asians means Asians will soon be a majority elsewhere.
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