So the President is adressing us at 21:00 EST.

[nadinbrzezinski]

Folks the made up crisis is now very real... and I have no idea how they will walk it back, and I mean BOTH sides.

I hope he goes for the 14th amendment, that's it.

SORRY

[DCBob]

1. he might... at least threaten to use it.

I hope he does. Its risky but I think it worth the risk and I think he will come out looking like a hero.

[NutmegYankee]

2. I really hope it isn't PST. That's really late for me. nt

[DCBob]

4. its 9pm eastern.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. EST, EASTERN, so it is dinner time for us in the Pacifc

:-)

[Ruby the Liberal]

3. Midnight Eastern? Seriously?

[nadinbrzezinski]

8. 21:00 EST, is 09:00 EST

[Ruby the Liberal]

11. Gotcha. I originally saw 21:00 PST and was like: what?!

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Corrected it, did not know what came over me

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. Oops! I thought it was me.

Glad to know I'm not losing my mind. For today at least.

:toast:

[senseandsensibility]

5. I really don't think he'll use the fourteenth amendment.

He doesn't seem to like never been done before, possibly risky, outside the beltway moves AT ALL. I have very little hope for his address tonight, although it gives me no pleasure to say so.

[Coyote_Bandit]

6. I am sickened by the leaders and politicians of both parties

playing this high stakes game of chicken. They are so damned focused on winning some political advantage that they have forgotten the people they are supposed to serve. Color me unimpressed.

[RagAss]

17. They play with our lives like we are dice in Vegas.

[Coyote_Bandit]

18. Question is: why do we let them?

Rhetorical, of course.

It's not like I really expect our government to ever be populated by a group of decent moral humane people dedicated to representing, advancing and protecting the needs and interests of flesh and blood people. That's never been true.

[RagAss]

19. True...those idealists are all dead or here on DU.

[Coyote_Bandit]

20. 8-) n/t

[Loge23]

9. Reports say that revenue is off the table

I suppose Obama will gloss over this travesty, if it is indeed true.
I'm back to the Health Care debate: no Public Option, no support.
No revenue, no support.

Of course, none of this matters to those who are in power anyway; but at least I sleep well.

[Marr]

10. I still don't believe default is a real possibility.

I think the "grand compromise" is basically set and the politicians are just wringing every last ounce of fear and political cover out of this thing as possible before it's passed. What it boils down to is that big business will lose money if there's a default, and that's not going to be allowed to happen. And as for those "crazy teabagger reps"... bullshit. I expect they'd be some of the cheapest to buy off.

[Rosco T.]

14. Phuck the idiots - 14th Amendment...

let them take it to court. let them try impeachment.

Phuck'em

[WinkyDink]

15. Now what can he say? If it isn't to promise to maintain SS/Med., I don't need to hear it.

[RagAss]

16. BREAKING.......He will discuss...

Government sponsored suicides ! That will balance this Fucking Budget !!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. So this was it... really...

default is coming.