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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:39 PM
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Kudos to Elizabeth Drew for telling it like it is
"What are they thinking?"
By Elizabeth Drew
NY Review of Books
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/aug/18/what-were-they-thinking/

Excerpt:

"Someday people will look back and wonder, What were they thinking? Why, in the midst of a stalled recovery, with the economy fragile and job creation slowing to a trickle, did the nation’s leaders decide that the thing to do—in order to raise the debt limit, normally a routine matter—was to spend less money, making job creation all the more difficult? Many experts on the economy believe that the President has it backward: that focusing on growth and jobs is more urgent in the near term than cutting the deficit, even if such expenditures require borrowing. But that would go against Obama’s new self-portrait as a fiscally responsible centrist.

Lawrence Summers, Obama’s recently resigned chief economic adviser, said on The Charlie Rose Show in July that he found it “dispiriting” that “all of the energy is on the projected deficits…when the problem right now is that the economy is in danger of stagnating from lack of demand.” The Republicans had made it clear for months that they would use the need to raise the debt ceiling as an instrument for extracting concessions from the Democratic President in the form of more cuts in federal programs. And the President assented to their premise, but only if there should also be some additional revenues. Were they all insane? That’s not a far-fetched question.

The President argued that it’s critical to make cuts that will “get our fiscal house in order,” so that the American people and the politicians would accept the idea of new programs leading to growth and more jobs. But there are numerous indications that the public is ready for such programs now, and serious analysts see no reason why he should not also be taking such steps now, even if this increases the deficit in the short run. But that would be at odds with Obama’s current self-portrayal. People who are looking for work, or worried about their unemployment insurance, or getting their kids to college, may not be impressed with the argument that they must be patient while the President adjusts his fiscal image in time for the 2012 election....


.....In the end, the President had made the Republicans look bad, but what did he get for it? He ended up agreeing to new restrictions that will hamstring his policies for as long as he serves in office. His own actions will have led to new laws that forbid him to borrow money for any government policy—unless, at some time, he goes out and campaigns hard for raising taxes in any form. His actions so far shed light on how likely that is.

This country’s economy is beset with a number of new difficulties, among them that recovery from the last recession remains more elusive than was generally expected, while the US is confronting a variety of international economic instabilities, especially the large debts and possible default of several countries in the eurozone, bringing on unpopular austerity measures. Recent experience with what should have been a simple matter of raising the debt ceiling, normally done with no difficulty, is reason for deep unease about our political system’s ability to deal with such challenges."

Much More at link above



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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:49 PM
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1. Maybe there is a lack of demand because we all have enough stuff.
Our clothes are still in good shape and we've got enough shoes. We've got a decent TV and a car that is older but functions.

Maybe we don't need a lot more.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:32 PM
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3. Well, our food tends to deplete itself and rent/mortgages comes due every month
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:38 PM
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4. That stays the same.
It's the discretionary spending that needs boosting and that companies complain about when they cite lack of demand.

Demand for food will always be there because we have to eat.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:41 PM
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5. That may soon become a discretionary luxury if we keep on in this direction
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 08:41 PM by Armstead
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:45 PM
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8. Or you go from steak to hamburger or chicken.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 08:49 PM by dkf
Or if you are really smart broccoli...

The broccoli!
My favorite veggie. Broccoli has 11.1 grams of protein per 100 calories while the steak has 6.4 grams of protein per 100 calories. That’s almost twice the amount of protein.

The poll was almost split 50/50, with the steak edging out the broccoli by one vote.

The point of this somewhat trick question is this: Protein is an important nutrient in your everyday diet, especially if you’re looking to build muscle and burn fat. The question isn’t about portion or calories, per se. It’s more about raising awareness to the fact that most people immediately look to meat for their daily protein requirement. Meat is higher in calories and fat while veggies are nutrient-dense and have minimal calories, which happen come from protein. You don’t have to be a full vegetarian or vegan to implement this plan. You can still eat dairy, fish, chicken and beef but just in smaller amounts and not everyday — like the traditional American diet suggests.

According to Dr. Joel Fuhrman’s new book, “Eat to Live: The Amazing Nutrient-Rich Program for Fast and Sustained Weight Loss,” this doesn’t and shouldn’t be the case. Veggies and beans are an excellent source of protein and are a great alternative to beef. In doing so, you can reduce your grocery bill as well as your carbon footprint.

http://blog.timesunion.com/healthylife/the-food-with-the-most-protein-is/7185/
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:48 PM
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9. Hamburger or chicken will be luxuries too
I'm frankly not sure what your point is
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:54 PM
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11. My little poke at chained CPI.
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Hatchling Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:44 PM
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7. Maybe YOU have enough stuff.
My clothing is shabby, my last pair of usable shoes is a year old, my tv gets 4 channels, I have no car, and get all my food from the food bank. As of Aug 3rd I may not be able to pay my exorbitant rent. I'm not asking for more, just enough to continue hanging onto the edge like I'm already doing.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:23 PM
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14. I agree that housing is still way too expensive.
But the irony is that the government is holding prices up when it needs to come down so people can afford it.

If the housing market resolved itself at a fair value, I bet you would have more options.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:59 PM
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2. Great post. K&R
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:42 PM
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6. Worrying about dust on the bureau when the bureaus are empty.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 08:47 PM by WinkyDink
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:51 PM
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10. Yep, it's the presidents fault for...
Having an obstructionist GOP congress?

Yeah, that makes sense. I'm sure the GOP would play along with more spending on progressive job creating legislation.

Nonsense.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:02 PM
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12. It's his fault for kowting to them
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 09:02 PM by Armstead
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:21 PM
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13. They are obstructing everything
How would demanding more progressive legislation change that? How would it change the attitude of blue dog senate democrats?

Please explain to me how the president being completely uncompromising would accomplish anything other than a Pyrrhic victory for left-wing critics.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:29 PM
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15. How about not demanding regressive cuts? That'd be a start.
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:43 PM
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16. Very interesting summation.
Thanks for posting this link. It was informative and well-written.
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