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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:06 PM
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Let's count: health care, repeal DADT, bin ladin dead. How 'bout a little fucking CREDIT here.
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 09:07 PM by UTUSN
And there's plenty of room to add on here.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:08 PM
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1. As far as I am concerned Health care doesn't count but I will give him props for bin ladin and DADT.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:12 PM
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5. You're a tough audience!
You know how hard it was to even pass modest health care reform? And the Republicans want to repeal even that.

I give a lot of credit to Nancy Pelosi for managing a diverse caucus in that fight.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:25 PM
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12. +1
eom
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:48 PM
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26. Get a pre-existing condition. Then let's see if you still think HCR "doesn't count." nt
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:11 PM
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2. Uh, you forgot a few: Wall Street reform, credit card reform, a more diverse SCOTUS,
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 09:11 PM by UrbScotty
the Matthew Shepard/James Byrd Jr. Act, making the student financial aid process easier, higher emissions standards for vehicles, the CFPB, the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act...
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:11 PM
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3. Repeal of DADT without including a non-discrimination clause
means little. In fact in could mean a re-set to 1982. Just another way Obama shows his love of Ronald Reagan.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:13 PM
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6. +1
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:17 PM
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10. Wow. So you've found a way to give no credit for DADT's repeal.
No surprise there.

We know. Whatever he does, there will be some caveat so you can still avoid any credit.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:31 PM
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:41 PM
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24. What total garbage. "despite his actions". Pitiful.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:47 PM
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25. Right, it's not like he created the strategy that passed the bill when everyone else gave up.
Oh wait. That's EXACTLY WHAT THE CASE WAS.

So spare us the "OBAMA BAD!" nonsense.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:36 PM
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18. There are some that will 'never' give President Obama credit for anything. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:35 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:40 PM
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:42 PM
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20. It is NOT going to be a absolute disaster, and I think you know that. n/t
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:44 PM
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21. You don't know jack unless you are Sec of Defense or head of
the Joint Chiefs.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:12 PM
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4. For some here it will NEVER be enough. nt
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FLyellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:14 PM
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7. My pony...don't forget my pony. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:14 PM
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:15 PM
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9. My son can no longer get his own insurance policy through major insurance
companies due to the pre-existing loophole...so, nope on health care.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:17 PM
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11. Didn't Congress repeal DADT?
Edited on Mon Jul-25-11 09:41 PM by cherokeeprogressive
I thought I read a thousand times on DU that CONGRESS was the only entity that could repeal DADT. Sure, he signed the passed bill, but it was CONGRESS what killed the DADT monster.
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:26 PM
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13. Health care reform?
Sorry.

Didn't happen.

Well, unless you're an insurance company.

They must be loving it.
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:44 PM
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35. Or unless you're a child who's claims have been denied for Pre-X conditions.
He derserves some credit for the reforms IMO.

He doesn't deserve credit for universal healthcare but credit where credit's due.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:28 PM
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14. How about your buddy starts acting like a Democrat instead of a corporate shill.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:31 PM
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16. "Health care"? Oh you mean the give away to insurance and big pharma
he gets blame for that, not credit. :thumbsdown:
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Trekologer Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:49 PM
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22. If it was such a big giveaway to insurance companies why were they fighting so hard against it?
Was it perfect? Nope, not at all. But the fact that the insurance companies were putting the full court press on in opposition seems to suggest it wasn't all that bad.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:02 PM
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29. Did you miss the ads run by Pharma and AHIP in support of the bill? nt
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 09:59 PM
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23. Seeing as I am opposed to the Wealth Care and Profit Protection Act
and don't much give a fuck about bin Laden other than not being fond of the extra-judicial stink on the affair combined with somewhere between gross negligence and willful scuttling of the economy as well as accepting the bogus Republican ideology as at least credible and too often correct, I'm not impressed by the few little chunks of the stimulus that went into half productive ends, signing Ledbetter, and DADT in the context of giving the seal of approval on the failed systems and institutions that are sinking the country.
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smoochpooch Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:56 PM
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27. He's running against one number and right now it stands at 9.2%.
If it's anywhere close to that one year from now, he loses.

He may get credit for some things, but he'll get plenty of blame for others. In the end, only one will matter in the 2012 election.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:39 PM
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31. My guess is that it will be higher by Nov. 2012.
The govt could always lie about it in Sep-Oct though, and revise the numbers after the election. In that case, it wouldn't matter.

It seems like EVERY time there are numbers released by this administration, they're revised downward with little or no fanfare a couple of months later.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:59 PM
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28. Obama got dragged into DADT kicking and screaming, and the health care bill is a handie to industry.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:07 PM
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30. Pro-corporation health care is NOT change I can beleive in.
Bin Laden didn't matter to begin with. It was a continuation of a meaningless war and the continued costing of the American people valuable money. DADT he dragged his ass on for SIX MONTHS and tried to tell the SF court that they needed more time even after that.

We still have POW camps overseas. We still have the PATRIOT ACT. We still have two and now added a third war for no reason.

AND he's looking to cut social programs to pay for the issues that the wealthy caused while not asking them for A SINGLE DIME.


So yeah. That is where I stand.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:40 PM
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32. "Here, you can have ice cream and a pony! Then I'm going to shoot you in the head."
OH BOY!

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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:41 PM
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33. k&r nt
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Shagbark Hickory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:42 PM
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34. Sorry my credit for DADT went to Joe Lieberman.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:50 PM
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36. $20 billion victims fund for gulf oil victims from bp
you'd never see THAT from the likes of reagan/bush
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