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Tue Jul-26-11 11:13 AM
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The Repugs pledging allegiance to an individual rather than to the USA is |
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an abrogation of duty and oath of office so great as to be tantamount to sedition and treason all rolled up into one. :patriot:
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:16 AM
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1. True. Got any ideas what to do about it? |
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:20 AM
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2. Norquist has that covered. |
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He always says the pledge is to the American people.
That said, I think an argument could be made that the oath of office supersedes other political oaths.
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:27 AM
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6. Is "the pledge" in the constitution? |
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:40 AM
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Tue Jul-26-11 12:19 PM
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9. The question is, does the congress know. And if it is not, why are enforcing it. |
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Tue Jul-26-11 12:53 PM
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10. Ah, the first part is rhetorical. The second is a *really good question.* |
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Anyway, congress is too busy representing whoever it is they work for (usually not the people) to worry about what's in the Constitution(RIP). (It's hard not to picture congress as two levels above the maffia on the Organized Crime Organization Chart. Their laws both create and support organized crime.)
I think their oath is unenforceable. And no one would enforce it because they are subject to the same witch hunting. It's a matter of judging "faith and allegiance" to a document that they ALL think they are expert in. Even with the benefit of good intentions, Congress doesn't agree on what the Constitution means.
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Tue Jul-26-11 09:48 PM
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11. Agreed. But enforcing a pledge that demonstrably injures the country is treason. |
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:43 PM
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12. No gallows is too high to hang Grover. |
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:44 PM
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13. No, the oath of office |
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the one each one of these kids takes.
Updated in accordance with the Congressional Record, February 18, 2011.
OATH of OFFICE
The oath of office required by the sixth article of the Constitution of the United States, and as provided by section 2 of the act of May 13, 1884 (23 Stat. 22), to be administered to Members, Resident Commissioner, and Delegates of the House of Representatives, the text of which is carried in 5 U.S.C. 3331:
“I, AB, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” has been subscribed to in person and filed in duplicate with the Clerk of the House of Representatives by the following Members of the 112th Congress, pursuant to the provisions of 2 U.S.C. 25:
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:20 AM
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:21 AM
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4. Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform |
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author of the "no tax" pledge.
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:22 AM
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I always had the impression societies were formed in order to decrease suffering and hardship. I think that's where this is coming from.
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Tue Jul-26-11 11:29 AM
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7. no - it's Grover Norquist in particular. |
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