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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:50 AM
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Detainee Abuse Photos: Fighting for Transparency and Accountability
Yesterday in federal district court in Manhattan, we appeared for the latest round in our long fight for the release of information about the abuse of detainees in U.S. custody in facilities throughout Iraq and Afghanistan. This time, we were arguing against the government's suppression of over 2,000 photographs depicting the abuse of detainees. In the face of the government's claim that it could withhold the photographs from the public without any judicial review, we argued that the core principles of transparency and accountability embodied in the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) required the court to review the government’s decision. Unfortunately, the judge ruled against us.

Earlier in the case, we prevailed on the argument that the photos, as direct evidence of government misconduct, had to be released under FOIA. But then in 2009, Congress passed an exception to the FOIA law exempting certain photographs of detainees taken during President Bush's term in office if the Secretary of Defense certified that their release would endanger Americans. The Defense Secretary did so, keeping secret over 2,000 photographs of detainee abuse. But he did not provide any descriptions of the photographs or explain how releasing them would endanger U.S. individuals. Yesterday, the court decided that the Defense Secretary's certification of harm — without any explanation — was enough.

Our democracy is not made stronger by the suppression of evidence of gross governmental misconduct. If released, the photographs would provide undeniable evidence of widespread abuse of detainees — abuse that occurred in any number of detention facilities throughout Iraq and Afghanistan. In other words, the photographs would directly contradict the narrative advanced by both the Bush and Obama administrations that the abuse of detainees was isolated and aberrational*. And the photographs would raise questions about the responsibility of senior officials for the mistreatment of detainees, questions that have yet to be seriously examined by any prosecutor.


Coming up on August 1 in the same courtroom is the next round in this long-running FOIA fight — oral arguments on our motion to hold the CIA in contempt of court for destroying videotapes depicting the torture of two detainees. Throughout all of these proceedings, the same idea holds true: transparency and accountability are the best deterrents to future abuse and the only way to repair the damage done to America's standing in the world by these abhorrent acts.

Added: *(the are speaking of the "few bad apples" lie).



Some background:

In case anyone has forgotten.

2 sets of photos

President Signs Law Giving DOD Authority To Exempt Photos From Torture FOIA

Secretary Of Defense Says Americans Should Not See Torture Photos



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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:53 AM
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1. k&r
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 05:18 PM
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2. Thank you
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 06:50 PM
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3. Glad to, Solly Mack....thanks for the post.
:kick:
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 07:06 PM
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4. knr and thanks for keeping this issue alive. nt
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:47 PM
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8. You're welcome. Several people on DU - yourself included - help keep it alive.
No amount of pretending will ever kill the facts - the US govt. committed war crimes and allowed the war criminals to go free. Sounds ugly because it is ugly. It still matters...it speaks to the very core of what America is and isn't... of what Americans are and what they are not.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:45 PM
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10. Remember when these threads would be on the top of the GP ...
unfortunately these facts now sink, even on DU.

:hi:





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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:01 PM
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5. Thank you for the update
It's gonna take another leak.

:cry:

We know from some of the descriptions that there were crimes committed and Holder won't move on them.

-Hoot
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:40 PM
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7. You're most welcome.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:07 PM
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6. K&R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 08:48 PM
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9. Thank you, Forkboy.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:55 PM
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11. Looking forward has its consequences. K&R
President Obama yesterday signed into law a Homeland Security appropriations bill that grants the Department of Defense (DOD) the authority to continue suppressing photos of prisoner abuse. The amendment, which would allow the DOD to exempt photos from the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA), is aimed at photos ordered released by a federal appeals court as part of an American Civil Liberties Union FOIA lawsuit for photos and other records related to detainee abuse in U.S. custody overseas, although it would apply to other photos in government custody as well. Earlier this month, the ACLU sent a letter to Secretary Robert Gates urging him not to exercise the authority to suppress the photos in their case, stating that the photos "are of critical relevance to an ongoing national debate about accountability."


Accountabilty is so yesterday.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 07:55 AM
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14. Sure does. Government knows what it can get away with...it knows most people will feebly protest
its crimes and abuses...for a while...then turn their heads away.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:39 PM
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12. K&R
:cry:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 07:56 AM
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15. Thanks, leftstreet.
I know. I wish America was different. :(

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 11:51 PM
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13. Gee, I hope everyone else agrees not to look backwards to the past
Some of the survivors of our torture can be such bitches about holding a grudge. But that's because they hate us for our freedom, not because of the waterboarding, the sleep deprivation, the stress positions and the other frat pranks we played on them for years at a time. Land of the free, home of the brave, you know?

This is such bullshit, and definitely not the change I voted for back in 2008. I never thought I'd have to go to an "Ask the Candidate" thing and ask whether someone running for office would vote to legalize war crimes and crimes against humanity. Seems like one of those "no-brainer" things, upholding the Constitution and our treaty obligations.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:03 AM
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20. Torture victims can be so tetchy...when they survive. Demanding justice and accountability.
They really have a lot of nerve. We're America , dammit! Torture means freedom and security when we do it.

No kidding! ("Ask the Candidate")
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:00 AM
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16. K&R
Obama's biggest failure...he hasn't a leg to stand on regarding human rights abuse as long as these war crimes go unpunished on his watch. My biggest disappointment in president Obama so far.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:00 AM
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17. Never forget. Thanks Solly. K&R n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:01 AM
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18. k&r...
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:03 AM
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19. K&R
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:04 AM
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21. Recommended. If DU'ers cannot be consistent on this issue...
Then it proves that we are truly Dems in name only and there is no underlying moral compass guiding us.

Bush, Obama, it doesn't matter who covers it up... it is indefensible.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:07 AM
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22. k&r! . nt
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 03:21 PM
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23. Too late to Rec, but this needs kicking.
:kick:
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