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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:14 PM
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Boehner proved Obama wrong and it was a gift to Democrats
Obama cast Boehner in a positive light as someone willing to take the issue seriously.
Boehner followed with tea party talking points. He showed Obama and the rest of us... "don't tell me I'm reasonable!"
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:22 PM
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1. Not sure I agree. Obama looks like a fool for trying to placate these rabid mongrels.
Euthanize them and be done with it.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:26 PM
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2. There's no "euthanizing" a party that controls the House and can filibuster in the Senate.
When the President no longer needs the two chambers of Congress and can simply decree whatever he wants, then I suppose he can do that.

Until then, the makeup of Congress needs to be changed in strong enough numbers that they do not have the power to sway legislation.
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:28 PM
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4. exactly CORRECT! This is merely one bloody battle in the
war against Republican majorities in ANY house of Congress.

We need 2/3 majorities in both houses in 2013.... then we will be rid of these pond scum legislators
forever.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:35 PM
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6. K&R (or I wish!) CakeGrrl! This is exactly right. The President is NO dictator
and he's only as strong as his Congress.

I agree with regard to changing Congress. We need to STOP voting in RepubliDems and RepubliCORPs. Only then can we move this country forward at a faster pace.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 01:48 PM
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8. Yes - the Prez is no dictator but...
it does not help his effort to govern by pussy-footing and giving in to the demands of one side (the rethugs) of the contest all the time!
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 03:14 PM
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9. Whether or not you or I like it, the Rethugs have the power in Congress
Reid could've, and should've, changed that last January by eliminating, or at least curtailing, the filibuster rule. That would have strengthened the President's position of negotiations. Reid, and the majority of established Democrats, did nothing, and things remained the same.

The House is dominated by Rethuglicans since most people didn't come out and vote and the elderly and TeaBaggers went, en masse, to the polls. Result? They are in power now. And they aim to make good their promise to make Obama a one-term president.

You agree that the president is NOT a dictator, yet you curiously lay all the blame of all the ills, or all the concessions during negotiations, and their failures, on the President. That's exactly what the PTB in this country hope you, and the majority of Americans, would do.

It's shortsighted, at best, and detrimental to this country, at worst. Because the end result can only be another GOP pro-corporate rightwinger in the WH and more rightwingers in the Senate. If you think President obama isn't catering to each and every one of our Progressive ideals, think how much worse we'll be off with a Romney or Perry in the WH. We simply can't afford that.

I'll remain supporting this President until we can clean out Congress. Until then, just expect more of the same.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 05:47 PM
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10. Bush used all kinds of tricks to get things done. nm
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rury Donating Member (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:09 PM
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13. That's because Bush doing the bidding of the wealthy and powerful
So the PTB stood aside and let him have his way.
Conservative lobbyist-owned Congressional "Democrats" who stymied President Obama's efforts to bring about progressive change were happy to accommodate Bush.
That's what Obama's up against.
Even when there were significant Democratic majorities in both houses, progressives were outnumbered.
That's just the ugly truth.
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:55 AM
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16. I wish I could K&R your post! Spot on, rury. This is exactly how it is. eom
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 12:53 AM
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15. Bush had a willing Congress, unlike Pres. Obama. That's the difference. eom
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 10:14 PM
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14. Exactly..and very well said with those two sentences. nt
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:27 PM
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3. So you advocate genocide? WTF does "euthanize" mean in a real political context?
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 09:54 PM
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12. I take it to mean completely and utterly neutralize their scheming nonsense.
Edited on Tue Jul-26-11 09:55 PM by bluerum
Take off the practice gloves and knock the bastards down. God knows that there are enough openings. Take advantage of their bumbling.

On edit; spelling
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JAnthony Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:31 PM
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5. I think people will object to your choice of analogies and terms
Republicans are simply scumbag human beings, people with no conscience, poorly educated, unable to think logically for the good of the nation, selfish even, but

human beings, nonetheless.

We need to start thinking of political "euthenasia" in the 2012 elections, no more Republican majorities in House or Senate.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 09:51 PM
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11. Agreed. Not to be taken literally. But I don't like having potentially life saving
medical care cut from the budget to placate these mongrels. My apologies to mixed breed dogs.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-26-11 12:55 PM
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7. I agree, he does
but only to people who are extremely anti anything not consistent with their ideology.
I don't love the idea of the idea of the "I don't know the details yet" cuts. But my count of congress and belief that something needs to be done leads me to keep and open mind.

I think Obama is right about people who just want the drama to be over. I also think he consistently comes across as the guy who actually cares about getting something done.
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