No more!

[kentuck]

Mr President, at some time, a line must be drawn. The more you surrender to these radicals in the Republican Party, the more they will ask for the next time. You will pay and pay thru the nose and they will never be satisfied.

The line should have been drawn a long time ago but the illusion of compromise and bi-partisanship clouded our judgements and decisions. We should have fought them when they threatened to not extend unemployment benefits unless we extended the Bush taxcuts. We should have taken it to the people at that time. But we did not.

So they came back with a vengeance. Now they are threatening all of us. They are threatening our very lives. You cannot surrender to these folks and expect anything good to happen in the future. It will only get worse and worse. The time to draw the line is now. Let them do what they will.

We should not be forced into writing ten-year laws at the point of a gun. The hostage takers must be challenged. They cannot be given what they ask for. That would be a fatal mistake. It is better late than never but now is the time to draw the line.

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[vi5]

1. It's a lost cause...

If this close to the brink, at this late an hour, after so many attempts and getting himself smacked down by Republicans, if he's still tooting this "bipartisanship" and "compromise" and "both sides" horn as he was last night then the fact is he's just not going to get it, it's not going to sink in, and he's going to continue dragging the limp, lifeless corpse of the Democratic party further to the right.

[kentuck]

2. Damn!

I hate to think that. :-(

[vi5]

3. I hate thinking so as well....

But c'mon. It is absolutely the zero hour here, and with as many times that it's been blatantly shown that the Republicans just aren't that into him or his bipartisanship, he STILL used his bully pulpit to praise Boehner, and pull the "both sides" crap.

I think it's more than a lost cause.

Or I should clarify that Obama as a Democrat and fighitng for Democratic ideology is a lost cause. I'm hopeful that liberalism and the Democratic party can have a resurgence. But now not only are we fighting against what Bush had done to the country in 8 years, we'll also be fighting (in some ways more) the ways that Obama has pushed the country further right.

Think about it. Now every single person who takes even a moderately, slightly liberal position is going to be "MORE LIBERAL THAN EVEN BARAK OBAMA!!!!!"

[kentuck]

4. The thing that puzzles me...?

Is why did the President get involved in this discussion to begin with?? This was a responsibility of the Congress. Who is this President talking to?? Who is advising him? They are acting like a bunch of keystone cops, not grand chess masters.

[bobdawg]

5. Obama has shown himself to be a compulsive loser.

He has done more to move the extreme right wing agenda forward than any President in US history.

[kentuck]

6. Except for the leaders in the Republican Party,

you might be right?

[bobdawg]

7. In some respects, Obama has been effectively radical right wing in a way

that even bush never attempted.

Especially in the areas of civil liberties, rewarding the wealthy, and extra-constitutional Presidential powers, Obama has been farther right than anyone except maybe a radical House teabagger. Certainly farther right than any President ever has been.