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Sun Jan-09-11 11:43 PM
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Anyone concerned about retaliation from a left wing nut job? |
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Though, I'm sure, many here would not like to admit it. There's also crazy left wing people out there with guns. And, if one of them were to retaliate against a right wing politician this whole thing could get much more volatile. It could end up being a tit-for-tat thing that goes on for a long time.
So, are left-leaning media commentators going to talk about this in a way that doesn't incite too much indignation?
This has to be played very carefully to avoid setting off someone who's a time-bomb.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:45 PM
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The left simply doesn't have a 24/7 hate machine to build the monsters over weeks/months/years and besides most liberals that I know to be a little crazy are harmless nutjobs that preach peace and diplomacy (thought they still keep their tinfoil hat on very tight). Too much Star Trek imo.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:12 AM
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26. No. I'd be more inclined to expect a copycat killing |
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of another Dem by another Palin/Rush/Hannity/Beck inspired whackjob.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:45 PM
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2. I am more worried about retaliation from a right wing nut job trying to pass |
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himself off as a left wing nut job. All in order to paint this right wing nut job as a left wing nut job. Now that I've typed it it doesn't sound right, but I'll always be more afraid of those who do their typing in caves.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:47 PM
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4. I think that's a legit concern |
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:48 PM
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5. +1.....this will happen before a lefty goes off the reservation. |
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:47 PM
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I know that sounds cavalier, but the lack of constant eliminationist rhetoric and a total absence of any kind of "...and that's the Chicago way!" speech among liberal figures goes a long way to convincing me that no, we won't be seeing anyone's DU profile on the news.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:48 PM
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:49 PM
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7. I would say when pigs fly, but |
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I've seen a video of a tornado hitting a hog farm. Not pretty. Pigs have actually flown before.
Any wise person would realize that it is futile to try to have a violent civil war with nonviolent people. Gandhi and MLK proved that doesn't really work. But, hey, we are talking about right wingers here. They aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.
Our side just isn't into it. I don't see it happening. I honestly don't.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:49 PM
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8. Yes. Often we have copy cat massacres after one gets a lot of media attention ... |
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As you mention insanity is not limited to right wingers.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:50 PM
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9. More concerned about rw violence considering their vitriol and dominance over the air waves |
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:50 PM
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10. well, read this and tell me who you would be worried about |
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:51 PM
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:53 PM
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12. I don't see it happening. The US left hasn't gone in... |
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Edited on Sun Jan-09-11 11:55 PM by Smarmie Doofus
... for violent force in any kind of concerted way since the 70s.
By that, I mean, there's no philosophical camp on the left which would advocate armed resistance... at least not at this time. Not to mention assassinations and indiscriminate mass murder of people on the other side.
Politically, it makes no sense. Morally, some schools of thought would argue that it ( armed resistance; not assassination of elected representatives) *could* be justified... but only under certain circumstances.... none of which exist at the moment.
If you're worried about someone going out and shooting RW congresspeople in retaliation.... that's not gonna happen.
Plus the left doesn't breed "nutjobs" in the same fashion or to the same degree as does the right.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:55 PM
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13. Look... a nut job is a nut job... |
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But usually left wing nut jobs are not the ones going around trying to kill anyone other than themselves.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:56 PM
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14. Tell you what I am concerned about... |
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Some rightwing nutbag offing one or more of their own and trying to make it look like a Liberal did it.
They would like nothing better than a civil war.
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Sun Jan-09-11 11:58 PM
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15. Nope, we tend to wring our hands. |
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:00 AM
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17. I am more concerned the LE will just shrug their shoulders and say, |
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nothing we can do. They will see this as an approval of their violence and they will feel they have free rein to do it again.
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:01 AM
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19. No. There is less hate and fear on the left side. nt |
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:02 AM
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20. I am more concerned that LE will shrug their shoulders and say |
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Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 12:03 AM by Arctic Dave
nothing we can do. They will see this as an approval of their violence and they will feel they have free rein to do it again.
I think LE needs to crush the teabagger movement with swift and decisive force. Much like they do with peace advocates.
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Mon Jan-10-11 04:27 AM
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37. Okay, It's late and I'm really dense: what is "LE"? |
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:37 PM
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Guess I have seen that here before, but in those cases the context was probably clearer, or it wasn't 3 am, or I wasn't having a senior moment! :-)
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:11 AM
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21. No. What Few Left-Wing Nutjobs There Are Who Might Get Violent Get Locked Up Right Away |
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Right wing nutjobs have always gotten a pass, which is why nearly all of the assassinations and assassination attempts have come from the right in our lifetime.
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:12 AM
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:12 AM
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23. When Democratic pols start urging people to take guns to political meetings |
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Mon Jan-10-11 12:22 AM
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25. Actually I have a feeling that left leaning people with mental issues are more likely to |
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seek help or family and friends will get them help. Remember the right think mental illness is an excuse and they just tell family members and friends that what is wrong with them is in their heads or there is nothing wrong with them that they can't pray away. The stigma of mental illness drives those to the right into isolation where they fester for years before acting out in anger. So I doubt that there will be a lefty insane gun man any time in the near future because they aren't forced to hide their mental illness.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:14 AM
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Frankly I'm more worried that the gun-toting idiot righties will be emboldened and more dangerous.
Most lefties I know are pretty pacifistic, even the ones with weapons.
That tolerance thing we tend to have generally precludes the senseless taking of life for ideology.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:16 AM
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28. Believe it or not there is no second amendment |
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talk in the left wing. You are a few decades late.
And I am sick and tired of false equivalencies.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:20 AM
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30. Like others, I think a RWer would do it again and frame the Left |
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If the corporate-controlled, RW-friendly MSM could actually get proof of a Leftie shooter, they'd cover them and their political leanings nonstop.
The fact that they're going so far to keep politics out of this story tells me that there's probably indication that the AZ shooter leans Right, if not an out-and-out Teabagger.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:21 AM
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31. Not in the least A lot of us deplore guns and violence |
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and would never think such a thing
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:28 AM
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32. I don't see it happening |
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:41 AM
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33. no, I think more vitriol and violence from the right is much more likely |
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:44 AM
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34. Yes, one might try to talk Sarah Palin to death with a suffocating stream of facts and figures... |
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Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 02:05 AM by ClassWarrior
...about peace dividends and health care for children.
:rofl:
It's true! It's almost happened to me numerous times at our state Dem Party convention!
NGU.
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:47 AM
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Edited on Mon Jan-10-11 01:53 AM by sabrina 1
For one thing, 'left wing media commentators' don't talk about 'locking and loading' and 'hunting down Conservatives' eg, so it's not likely they will be inciting anyone to violence.
If they did use the same kind of rhetoric the rightwing media commentors use, THEN I would be worried.
As a matter of fact, I am worried about more rightwingers being inspired by this, being egged on by rightwing commenters and teabaggers who say they will not be changing their rhetoric, and doing something equally horrendous. I am worried about the safety of several Democrats actually, especially those in Red States.
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Mon Jan-10-11 02:02 AM
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36. I'm far more worried about another Beck-inspired wingnut committing violence |
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Mon Jan-10-11 01:40 PM
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40. If there was, it could and should be blamed on the violent rhetoric started by ReThug mouthpieces |
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What would make a left-wing nut job take up arms and go a-shootin'? Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, et al spouting off about taking out the left.
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