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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 05:47 PM
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3 million Americans or so may find out the truth
3 million Americans or so may find out the truth
Professor Bill Mitchell
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=15394

I watched the US President speaking live today from the White House. I wish I hadn’t. The local media (here) characterised him as talking tough. What I heard was a leader who doesn’t know what he is talking about. But he isn’t alone out there in the “debt ceiling” debate land. I have noted before that when the crisis really hit I thought it would spell the end of the stranglehold that mainstream macroeconomics had on public policy. That body of theory had led the world into the crisis by endorsing policies that set the financial system up to collapse. As it was becoming obvious (as far back as 15 years ago) that a major crisis was approaching mainstream economists were in denial and claimed that the “business cycle” was dead. I was wrong in assuming (more hoping) that the mainstream paradigm would be wiped out by the travesty. And as the months pass, their erroneous theories seem to be getting more credibility not less. The debt ceiling debate has reached proportions of madness that I didn’t think were possible in a broadly educated country (at least to primary school level). What must the Martians be thinking of us now. Anyway, certain practical matters not counted on by the ideologues suggest that 3 million Americans or so may find out the truth.

Early on the US president revealed how poorly he understands the economy he is ruling over:

    " Now, every family knows that a little credit card debt is manageable. But if we stay on the current path, our growing debt could cost us jobs and do serious damage to the economy. More of our tax dollars will go toward paying off the interest on our loans. Businesses will be less likely to open up shop and hire workers in a country that can’t balance its books. Interest rates could climb for everyone who borrows money – the homeowner with a mortgage, the student with a college loan, the corner store that wants to expand. And we won’t have enough money to make job-creating investments in things like education and infrastructure, or pay for vital programs like Medicare and Medicaid. "


The US government budget is not remotely like a family/household budget. Households have to finance their spending, the US government does not. Households use the currency that the US government issues (under monopoly conditions).

No tax dollars go “toward paying off the interest on our loans”. Please read my blog – http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=9281">Taxpayers do not fund anything – for more discussion on this point.

A government that tries to “balance its books” while the external sector is draining demand and the private domestic sector is trying to save to reduce its exposure to debt (after the credit binge) will force businesses to close up shop and sack workers.

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=15394">more...

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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 05:50 PM
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1. Informative. Thank you. n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 05:58 PM
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2. I didn't understand it - can someone 'dumb this down' for me?
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 06:07 PM
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3. Think of standard double-entry bookkeeping.
A liability on one side or column of the ledger represents an asset on the other side of the ledger. In the case, a public sector deficit (surplus) also represents a private sector surplus (deficit).

When the government shrinks its deficit, money is removed from the economy. Businesses and individuals will have to increase their borrowing from banks if they want to maintain or increase their spending capacity.
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Ineeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 06:18 PM
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4. I still don't get it
especially that taxpayers don't fund anything. How else is revenue raised then? Also, although it may not be relevant to the discussion, this is a UK article, not US.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 06:54 PM
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6. Professor Mitchell is Australian, actually..
but he's writing here about the US economy.

As to taxes for revenue, US Federal Reserve Chairman Beardsley Ruml wrote a paper in 1946 titled "http://hiwaay.net/~becraft/RUMLTAXES.html">Taxes For Revenue Are Obsolete". At the time we had recently moved off of the gold standard and were operating under a fiat system, exactly as we are today. This isn't copyright any longer, but in the interest of length, I will just excerpt the most relevant section. The emphasis below is mine.

The necessity for a government to tax in order to maintain both its independence and its solvency is true for state and local governments, but it is not true for a national government. Two changes of the greatest consequence have occurred in the last twenty-five years which have substantially altered the position of the national state with respect to the financing of its current requirements.

The first of these changes is the gaining of vast new experience in the management of central banks.

The second change is the elimination, for domestic purposes, of the convertibility of the currency into gold.

Free of the Money Market

Final freedom from the domestic money market exists for every sovereign national state where there exists an institution which functions in the manner of a modern central bank, and whose currency is not convertible into gold or into some other commodity.

The United States is a national state which has a central banking system, the Federal Reserve System, and whose currency, for domestic purposes, is not convertible into any commodity. It follows that our Federal Government has final freedom from the money market in meeting its financial requirements. Accordingly, the inevitable social and economic consequences of any and all taxes have now become the prime consideration in the imposition of taxes. In general, it may be said that since all taxes have consequences of a social and economic character, the government should look to these consequences in formulating its tax policy. All federal taxes must meet the test of public policy and practical effect. The public purpose which is served should never be obscured in a tax program under the mask of raising revenue.

What Taxes Are Really For

Federal taxes can be made to serve four principal purposes of a social and economic character. These purposes are:

1. As an instrument of fiscal policy to help stabilize the purchasing power of the dollar;

2. To express public policy in the distribution of wealth and of income, as in the case of the progressive income and estate taxes;

3. To express public policy in subsidizing or in penalizing various industries and economic groups;

4. To isolate and assess directly the costs of certain national benefits, such as highways and social security.


In the recent past, we have used our federal tax program consciously for each of these purposes. In serving these purposes, the tax program is a means to an end. The purposes themselves are matters of basic national policy which should be established, in the first instance, independently of any national tax program.


As the monopoly issuer of the dollar, our federal government doesn't need to borrow from the markets or collect taxes in order to spend. In fact, money has to be spent into existence by the government before it can be taxed or borrowed. In a fiat system, taxes are mainly used to control inflation, but as Ruml highlighted above, they can also be a means of redistributing money and encouraging investment in key sectors or altering consumer behavior, etc.



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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 12:26 AM
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7. Sorry if the above response was confusing.
I was using a cell phone and see now there were typos.

If you are interested in the subject, you can find a good overview of our monetary system from Pragmatic Capitalism at the link below.

http://pragcap.com/resources/understanding-modern-monetary-system

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 03:31 AM
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8. This was all extremely informative, thank you ggm!
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 06:18 PM
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5. He obviously didn't get the Republican memo....
they got everyone not playing along with him....no new job, business not hiring, lets bet we can make $120 a barrel for oil, thye have been stacking the deck and the country is barley breathing ....thats what the truth is.
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