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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:29 PM
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Connecting the debt ceiling dots …and… Disaster capitalism/government

1. We all know that the debt ceiling is a routine government economic housekeeping bill.

2. This has been done 90 or so times before, yes with some 'no' protest votes but it was never held hostage.

3. 1 + 2 = made up crisis

4. The Budget, made up of spending, cuts, and tax increases, is first presented by the President and then negotiated in the House and the Senate as a matter of normal Congressional activities that are never ties to the debt ceiling.

5. 3 + 4 = really made up crisis.

6. The President said they have no plans to invoke the 14th Amendment.

7. The rating agencies (Moody's) is stating that it will 'downgrade' America's Bond/Treasuries ratings UNLESS there is spending cuts.

8. 5 + 6 + 7 For the first time, the rating agencies mandate a spending cut thus giving a false mandate to install cuts Right Now. The end game - they have it out to steal the very last dollar you and I have.


This is a very, very, dark and ruthless plan, enabled by all Republicans, blink blink the president, and most Democrats.

And they seem to be getting away with it because 1) we let them, and 2) we are incapable of connecting all the dots...
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:32 PM
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1. UNREC Not created by the president, you have some issues understanding the facts nt
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:35 PM
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3. Enabled by the president
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:12 PM
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5. Maybe you need to learn where to direct your ire
Everyone else in the country is figuring it out. The hooligans in the house are attempting to destroy our democracy.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:23 PM
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6. Enabled by the President
..I am primarily pissed at the Teabagger GOP. They are a horrid, destructive minority who should all be impeached.

But I am also pissed at the President for treating them as having legitimate points, and for giving the whole GOP what they want without a fight.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:24 PM
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7. Playing into the falseness of this made up crisis is not legitimate
The Ultimate Test of the fate of America will occur on or about Aug 2.

Either the President will sign a good bill, invoke the 14th, or side with the Reps....

It is as simple as this.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:45 PM
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11. I agree, but be honest, this is a republican caused crisis because they want to destroy Obama nt
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:51 PM
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15. Yes, I totally agree with you on this point... But,
Obama is allowing this to happen...
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:55 PM
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17. Anyone who says this is not following the story
There is no reason for him to "let this happen" you're missing motive.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:39 PM
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4. Never said it was Created by the President...
But he sure is enabling it isn't he...
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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 08:33 PM
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2. I was thinking the same thing the other day.
The next step will be putting all of our public assets for sale, like national parks. Dirt cheap, for a temporary short term gain.

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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:38 PM
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8. I don't think this manufactured.
This is what happens when voters become cynical and apathetic. These asshats got in office because a bunch of racist screwball voters got motivated and got rid of the Democrats in congress that represented their districts.

Unfortunately the GOP candidates that they voted into office weren't just playing up to the bat shit cray ideology of their voters, they really are bat shit crazy and now we are all paying for it including the GOP, and I doubt that wall street or corporate america is very happy either.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:42 PM
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9. Nothing in politics and government is by accident...
This is all well to planned....

Just like the Patriot Act, the huge Patriot Act, was (relatively) immediately available for passage...
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TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:45 PM
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10. The patriot act was passed with no opposition no one even read the bill
This is something different believe me.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:47 PM
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13. I have learned to believe in my own knowledge and instincts....
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:47 PM
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12. You sound like the people on the conspiracy websites here
and they really hate Obama and like to throw shit at him about secret plots against our freedoms.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:48 PM
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14. So help me here....
What part of my analysis is incorrect...
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:54 PM
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16. Your vibe is transparent, not that you're alone on DU nt
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 09:56 PM
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18. Your non-reply is enough for me....thanks...
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:02 PM
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19. If I get through on a piece I'm working on, I link it all together.
But I'm also busy trying to survive which limits my time.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-11 10:15 PM
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20. I look forward to your post....
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