You realize Obama will lose in 2012, then a Republican President is going to RAISE TAXES!!!

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Because they have to be raised!

Edited to add: President Obama will lose BECAUSE the teabag republicans have beaten him at politics and legislating...etc.

[dionysus]

1. .

:rofl::spray:

[Safetykitten]

2. Yes, you are correct on both points. A virtual fact lost on many here.

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4. Same with Bush I and Ronnie...etc.

[KittyWampus]

10. You actually believe Obama is going to lose?

[LiberalLoner]

3. why are you so certain President Obama will lose in 2012?

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6. Can't you see what is happening, the country is being destroyed on his watch and he backs down

EVER SINGLE TIME?

Cuts everyone is proposing will cause a 12% unemployment rate by election time....And, we may be looking at a second dip recession BECAUSE of the ongoing debt debate and lack of effort to make our economy function the it is supposed to be.

[emulatorloo]

11. Well then we shouldn't have elected teabaggers in 2010.

As to this "crisis" I am predicting a clean bill to raise the debt ceiling or 14th amendment.

Boehner plan will fail. Reid plan will fail. The only thing left is clean bill.

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12. I hope you are right...nt

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[Safetykitten]

9. In 2012, a weepy solemn ad by the republicans...

"Who was President during our financial crisis?"

"Who was President when the country defaulted/or almost defaulted?"

[lbrtbell]

14. And people will fall for the propaganda

That's why Obama needs to grow a pair.

[emulatorloo]

15. A solemn counter ad showing boenher walking out of meetings, and teabaggers voting to default.

"Who was President during our financial crisis?" hate to break it to you, most people still blame bush.

[krabigirl]

13. I don't think he will lose, although he hasn't earned it. The GOP field of candidates is horrible.

[sharp_stick]

5. The only difference will be that

those taxes will be mainly, or wholly, raised on those making one hell of a lot less than $250k a year.

on edit: Obama ain't losing anything in 2012 IMO.

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20. With all the current policies in place right now, do you think America is going to be better 3-5 yrs

from now? I honestly think the country is being destroyed by all policies, all proposals from both sides.

[Solomon]

8. Only a republican can raise taxes.

I'm sick of hearing the only Nixon could go to China, only Obama could cut social security. So here's the new one - only republicans can raise taxes.

[brooklynite]

16. A Republican President WILL NOT raise taxes...

Only two of the Republicans (Mittens and Huntsman) would think it was a necessary thing to do, and both would look at GHWB and say "he raised taxes and lost his Presidency." What they WOULD do is perhaps go after sacred cow spending.

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17. They will indeed raise taxes because they will be left with no

other choice, the fact is: TAXES have to rise asap.

[brooklynite]

18. I repeat: NO.

First, they won't convince the (likely) Republican House to pass them, so no point wasting political capital calling for them. Second, they'll use budget gimmicks to promise/hope for additional revenue from the economic recovery.

This isn't your Uncle Ronnie's Republican Party....

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22. Then we will have $20-25 trillion debt by 2016, then it is

all over for this country, just about.

[brooklynite]

26. Not saying that isn't true...

...just that rational financial behivior isn't politically possible on the Republican side.

[Rex]

19. Horsepucky!

[RoadRage]

21. I love the "Obama is going to lose" argument...

when right now the Teapublicans are pushing a default on American's that 75% don't agree with. They are pushing to chip away at SS & Medicare, when 75% don't agree with them. But, yet - magically, Obama is still going to lose to this mysterious republican that when actually given a "real" name like Romney, Palin, Bachman, Pawlety, etc... the polls show otherwise.

But, that's OK.. back here in 2007.. 90% of DU'ers thought Obama wouldn't make it through the primaries.. so the "fortune telling" on this site isn't exactly top grade.

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25. Obama is enabling them, no? He proposed increasing SS to age 67, he is now

agreeing to all their demands about cutting trillions...etc. He is doing exactly what they have asked, he is the one who agreed to keep the Bush tax cuts go on for two more years...etc. Can't you see?

[HomerRamone]

28. "the polls were wrong...when they got into those computerized voting booths...

...they voted Republican...it must be that they wouldn't say they'd vote for the Republican...after all, the voting machines are always right."

[Hawkowl]

23. But will Congress save SS and Medicare?

I predict they will--if Obama is prevented from destroying it. It is much easier for Pelosi to oppose a Republican president on this matter than to oppose Obama. One of the reasons I won't be voting for B.O.

[sendero]

24. Probably..

... I've been predicting Obama's demise based on the economy for over a year. When he had the resources to do something, he sat on his hands, now they are tied.

I really can't feel sorry for Obama, he made his bed - the country I feel sorry for, but then again it made its bed also by electing those tea party fucks.

[RC]

27. Another reason Obama needs to be Primaried.

[JoePhilly]

31. Not. Happening.

[grahamhgreen]

29. On us, but not the wealthy.

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30. [phone]