Norway shooter: Ammo was from U.S.

[kpete]

The requirement is that the weapon can not be easily converted to produce fully automatic fire.

Police Directorate has granted a dispensation to own 21 different models of semi-automatic rifles for hunting or competition shooting. Ruger Mini-14 is on this list.

The weapon is popular in the U.S., but not widespread in Norway. The weapon used in part to the deer hunt, according to one expert.

In Norway it is only allowed to use the weapon to hunt with three shots in magazine, and a bullet in the chamber. The weapon, however, was upgraded several times by the gunman. In December 2010 and January 2011 bought Breivik 10 magazines with a capacity of 30 shots from various dealers in the United States.

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The Norwegian madman who killed dozens at a kids summer camp claims he legally bought high-capacity ammunition clips by mail from the United States, prompting Capitol Hill’s leading gun control advocate to say on Thursday that America should be ashamed such purchases aren’t against the law.

Anders Behring Breivik wrote in a 1,500-page manifesto that he bought 10 30-round ammunition clips for his .223 caliber rifle from an unnamed small U.S. supplier, which then in turn acquired the clips from other suppliers. Norway forbids the sale of clips for hunting rifles that hold more than three bullets, according to Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten.

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/60154.html#ixzz1TQSPFn4T

[slackmaster]

1. Rush on magazine sales in 3...2...1...

:argh:

ETA Unrec for poorly written subject line (by the author, not the OPer.) The article says nothing about how he acquired ammunition, only some of his magazines.

[Codeine]

2. He could have purchased the same items legally in Sweden.

Just cheaper from American suppliers.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. Alas that is ONE of our main exports these days

guns and ammo

:-)

[Obamanaut]

7. ? "Alas that is ONE of our main experts these days..." What is one

of "...of our main experts..."?

[MineralMan]

9. Perhaps you meant to type "exports."

In any case, nothing in any of those articles said that ammunition was sold. The headline was incorrect. Only magazines were mentioned in the article. I'm sure ammunition is available in Norway for that firearm, and it would be far cheaper to buy it there than from the US, assuming that any US dealer would ship it to Norway, which I believe would be illegal.

[MineralMan]

4. Actually nothing in what you quoted has to do with ammo.

He bought magazines from the US. I'm sure the .223 ammo is available in Norway, and I don't know any American company who would ship that ammo to Norway.

Words are important. They have distinct and precise definitions.

[kpete]

5. ......gulp

peace, kpete

[Odious justice]

6. "Norway forbids the sale of clips for hunting rifles that hold more than three bullets"

Wouldn't that make the importing of this clip illegal? You can't mail things into a country that are banned there(without breaking the law).

[MineralMan]

8. Well, I wouldn't completely trust what was said in the article.

I don't know Norway's laws. But the author of the article at the second link made the mistake of confusing magazines with ammunition, so I'm not really sure I'd consider anything in the article to be all that accurate.

[Odious justice]

12. Fair enough.

[Sherman A1]

11. One would think

That given the information above that importing them or shipping them to Norway would indeed be illegal.

[petronius]

13. It could be a translation issue - the 3-round limit may only apply when actually hunting

For example, in the US it's illegal to hunt migratory birds with more than 3 rounds (2+1) - I assume that's to prevent you from just blasting away at a whole flock. But a higher capacity is perfectly legal otherwise...

[MineralMan]

14. Very possible.

My 12 ga. shotgun's magazine holds five rounds. If I take it hunting, I have to have a piece of wooden doweling in the magazine to restrict me from loading more than three. It can be removed in less than a minute, and is so removed right now. I haven't hunted for years.

[grahamhgreen]

10. And he filled the hollow-points with illegal nicotine from China to make any would deadly!

According to his manifesto....

[damntexdem]

15. U.S. gunnuttery promotes murder throughout the world.

Maybe there should be worldwide sanctions against the U.S. as a promoter of terrorism via its lax gun (including ammunition) laws.

[hack89]

18. Norway has a hunting culture with many people owning guns.

he didn't need to get anything from America to pull this off.

Remember - in a country with some of the strictest gun laws in the world, he was able to legally acquire everything he needed.

[TheWraith]

20. Talk about knee-jerk reaction: you didn't even read the cited portion of the articles.

If you had, you might have realized that there was no ammunition purchased from the US--the title has it wrong.

[NightWatcher]

16. so, the gun laws did little good, cause he broke the law before he killed?

so let's pass more knee jerk laws, I'm sure the bad guys wont evade those either.

I'm against all knee jerk laws, be they gun, missing kid, cars, Olive Garden, breast feeding...

[jpak]

17. Death Amerikan Style

Oh yeah - it can't happen here...

yup

[hack89]

19. So - in a country with some of the strictest gun laws in the world

he was able to legally own all the weapons he needed. So explain to me what extra laws the Norwegians need now.

[treestar]

21. One thing we still manufacture