In light of all the child posts I have a question...

[Cid_B]

As I sit in the Barnes and Noble cafe area there is a mother here with a crying/screaming child....

Does this area fall under the category of...

a) I expect to see and hear children here and some of them will likely misbehave or be irritating at some point

b) People are here to read and relax and should expect quiet (similar to a library)

[bigwillq]

1. B (nt)

[H2O Man]

2. C

[Brickbat]

3. A.

There is no expectation of "quiet" in a B&N cafe. LMAO.

[LanternWaste]

4. In my case, it's C..

In my case, it's C) If I can't deal with it, it's no big deal to leave.

But that's just me, and I'm hardly clever... :P

[Lint Head]

5. Children should neither be seen nor heard from -- ever again. W. C . Fields

[cbdo2007]

6. Why does everyone think this is all or nothing??

There are a million different scenarios we can all debate for infinite, but the point is that it is up to the business to decide, so it's useless to debate in a new topic every hour.

[FSogol]

7. A. It is a business, not a library. BTW, all of these child post have made me realize...

I'm not an old fogey like everyone else here at DU. :hi:

[HockeyMom]

19. Since I work with children, and special needs ones,

hearing a child crying and screaming doesn't bother me. I have MORE of a problem with Snowbird Seniors in stores and supermarkets with their walkers, or push carts, blocking everyone else. You can add cashiers who are so SLOW and can't bag groceries.

I am 62 years old. Get out of MY way. At least children, can MOVE.

[peace13]

8. As momma said,'Medicate yourself, not the child' !

But seriously, your point is an interesting one. Where does it stop and just exactly where can the children be allowed. Where can parents be certain that the evil eye will not be cast upon them or possibly an irate CCW who has heard one too many whines lights it up. Book stores are clearly for adults. Personally I think the folks who read the books for free in a book store should go on over to the library where they know it will be quiet.

[FirstLight]

11. lol

'medicate yourself'...hehehe :smoke:

[Cid_B]

12. Really?

You heard alot about the rash of licensed CCW holders "lighting up" public places due to screaming children? Really? :eyes:

[peace13]

16. See post 15 for response.

Sorry!

[peace13]

15. Good point, it could be anyone with a gun or knife as it turns out.

I am totally surprised by the number of folks out here that attack the kids. It is bad parenting and nothing less. I don't know any CCW's that have shot at a wild child but I do know one who beat his kids. Oh wait he was a law enforcement agent. Does that count?

[uppityperson]

20. Are you saying children should not be in bookstores, they are only for adults?

there is a big children's section and kids like to help pick out books.

This question is about the cafe part.

[peace13]

27. Nope..not at all. Sarcasm. Sorry, no smiley! n/t

[pnwmom]

22. Book stores are for adults? Books stores are CLEARLY for children!

Where do future readers come from? Why bookstores have children's departments?

Where will we be, as a society, if no children learn to love reading? Do you think that's going to happen at school?

[peace13]

28. I agree totally!

I don't even care if one of the little creatures gets antsy at a restaurant as long as an adults tries to distract or remove it! This whole debate is about lazy parents. I have seen some really great kids in many public places! Our society is all balanced on how we treat the least of us and from many of the comments here I would say that we are in real trouble.

[pnwmom]

36. I agree. I think it's the result of less and less toleration for differences.

Kids are different. It's up to the adults to deal with that. When it's someone else's kid, I just let it roll off me, which is probably why I can't even remember the last time I noticed a misbehaving child.

[peace13]

29. I agree!

I don't even care if one of the little creatures gets antsy at a restaurant as long as an adults tries to distract or remove it! This whole debate is about lazy parents. I have seen some really great kids in many public places! Our society is all balanced on how we treat the least of us and from many of the comments here I would say that we are in real trouble.

[Scout]

9. B n/t

[noamnety]

10. it doesn't matter what you "expect"

Children are a part of society and women with children are not imprisoned in their homes.

[demmiblue]

13. a. Barnes and Nobles is not a library...

although some treat it that way.

If you want this sort of atmosphere, then go to a library. I have to say, though, that the adult section in the library is almost always as loud (at times, more-so) as the children's area. I just bring earplugs or use my earbuds and play a white noise app if I go there to read.

[BadgerKid]

14. You can't control someone else's kid.

I suppose you forgive/ignore, or adjust your proximity? :hi:

[Yavin4]

17. "People are here to read and relax and should expect quiet (similar to a library)" Really?

What library do you go to? NY Public libraries are loud. Starbucks has more quiet.

[pnwmom]

18. A and C: The more children love to learn bookstores, the better off we are as a society. n/t

[uppityperson]

21. A. Children should be exposed to bookstores, are expected to be in bookstores. Bookstores aren't lib

libraries with the same type of rules.

[pnwmom]

24. I agree. And the bookstores want them there - that's why they have kids' departments. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. B. Parents should be responsible enough to remove their kids when they misbehave.

As in, "common courtesy".

[pnwmom]

26. I don't see the problem if it's a momentary issue. This isn't clear from the OP.

[Arkansas Granny]

39. I don't think anyone expects a child to be completely silent when out in public.

However, I have encountered children who were allowed by their parents to be loud and disruptive. This causes a lot of hard feelings toward the children, when it is really the parents who are to blame for their bad behavior.

[Lyric]

25. A

Life means living with other people. Sometimes they piss you off. Suck it up and deal.

[Myrina]

30. B.

n/t

[cherokeeprogressive]

31. A. If you want "similar to a library" go to a library.

[woo me with science]

32. We should just remove their larynxes.

Not permanently. Just until they are about 14.

Soon science will give us a removable larynx.

[BadgerKid]

37. That cord blood you saved will provide stem cells

for clandestine larynx labs!

[TheManInTheMac]

33. "People are here to read and relax and should expect quiet (similar to a library)"

Seeing as how Barnes and Noble is a retail establishment, people are supposed to be there to shop. Guess that explains what happened to Borders.

As to your current situation, if you don't like it, leave. It's up to the store owners to decide policy.

[Cid_B]

34. Back up there Hoss...

untwist your panties for a sec and take a deep breath...

Did I express a preference either way? I know it's fun and easy to look for outrage but I left it open on purpose.

[TheManInTheMac]

40. Sorry I came across rude...

I was thinking of the old movie cliche of the crusty old news stand owner saying "This ain't no lending library."

[lynne]

35. People go there to buy books. It's a retail establishment -

- the cafe is a sideline and wouldn't exist without the retail establishment. A comparison to a library isn't really accurate as people go to a library primarily to read books and study whereas people go to B&N primarily to purchase books.

Given that B&N is a retail establishment - and some of their products are marketed to children - and neither purchase or enjoyment of the product they primarily sell is dependent upon store environmental factors = you should expect to hear screaming children there once in a while.

[StarsInHerHair]

38. it depends, is the kid shrieking so that your innards jiggle like when a big drum

passes you in a parade? If so, then b