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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:31 PM
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Curious....what do we as a country do when our men and
women service members come home after serving in Afghanistan and Iraq??? There are no jobs now....what the h*ll???? What do we do??? :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:34 PM
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1. We don't do anything. They are "expected" to be on the street corners with
signs begging for handouts, just like all Vietnam vets with PTSD. That's how much the country cares for it's vets and homeless. Sad, so sad.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:36 PM
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3. That was exactly what Vietnam vets did. Going to war is so stupid.
It gives the evil men power.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:41 PM
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6. I know, it just makes me so sad.....
:cry:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:35 PM
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2. The military just sends them back. A dozen times. nt
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:36 PM
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4. well that too. they don't care about diagnoses as long as they can still fight.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:45 PM
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7. They don't care a whit about the soldiers. They only care about serving
their wealthy, powerful masters.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:37 PM
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5. Many of them will stay in--and be deployed again
The ones who get out face extreme challenges in the current economy. Homelessness is exploding among recent vets:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=259x30114

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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:46 PM
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8. I'm so sad about them all.....
Isn't it just sick that the young people have to "sign up" to get a job, and benefits. just saying........it's sad that our young people enlist and try to get ahead. D*mn.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:29 AM
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13. That's called the 'poverty draft'
The harder it is to find work, the easier it is for military recruiters to fill quotas.

And we're also using the NG and Reserves--the ones who normally are expected to only have to do weekends and summer camps after their active duty stints. But the fine print says thay can be activated up to a total of up to 8 years.

A local Army Reserve unit in my community is being re-deployed to Afghanistan in a week or so. I normally avoid getting to know deploying troops because dealing with loss and grief can be problematic for me (I knew more than 60 guys who died in Vietnam).

But I broke down and attended one ceremony in which I presented medals to the men and women in this unit, and I'll be there with their families when they are sent off again soon. It's a transportation unit, and when I asked one of the NCO's what they transport, I wasn't expecting to be so chilled by the response: "Fuel."

Two weeks after we send these men and women back to Afghanistan we'll be doing our quarterly Stand Down for homeless vets...


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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:46 PM
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9. Statistically speaking, the numbers aren't high enough to make much of a change in employment.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 11:47 PM by JVS
Also, the military isn't set up so that once you leave combat you're unemployed. You're still enlisted for what you signed up for unless some kind of discharge is given. So, really you're worrying about something that isn't a problem.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:49 PM
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10. Really??? well thank you for telling me that.....
:fistbump: that makes me feel a little better.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:52 PM
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11. Also, a lot of the expense of foreign deployment has to do with supplying them.
Gas, food, water, supplies, etc. are all very expensive to send to the front. We could bring them all home and keep them on full duty here for a lot cheaper. Deploy them for natural emergencies and stuff if they're needed.
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Ninten12 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:07 AM
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12. This vet says...
Suck it up! The "public" can pose all the hell they want to but they are constantly looking down their noses at us. It's like Jesse Ventura pointed out regarding the horrible homeless vet issue that people claim to always support the troops but they don't.

It's just not politically correct to voice disdain for us. We don't get any special treatment. Our GI Bills are absolutely worthless unless we can find school hours that will work with a job. Americans hate education and don't allow classes to be worked into schedules, yadda, yadda.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:06 AM
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17. Troops are an instrument of shock and awe in all manners imagined and practiced.
Shock and awe baby.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:39 AM
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14. I can't wait for Middle East war reenactments to replace Civil War reenactments...
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swilton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:03 AM
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15. Great question
That's why - even though I'm anti-war, I wonder about that...The USSR had the same problem with demobilization of its soldiers in Afghanistan and Eastern Europe.

In the best of all worlds I believe jobs should be created to protect the environment, national parks, etc., etc....Other civil service jobs in cities as well. Many of the skills are transferable.



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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:05 AM
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16. Create jobs. How's that for an idea?
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