To every lurking Tea Bagger, Freeper and Cave Dweller...YOU ARE STUPID.

[Atman]

If you miss your credit card payment, your rate goes up to 29-32%. The "default rate." The situation you've put the nation into right now is exactly the same, except we're talking BILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars, and new debt put upon the backs of our children and grandchildren. Are you fucking MAD? How can anyone, in any way, shape or form, see this as HELPING our economy? It leads me to only one conclusion; this isn't about the economy, it's about power and your hatred of the black man in office.

Please, moles, expose yourselves, and tell me how I am wrong.

.

[RagAss]

1. +1000000

[LiberalLoner]

2. K&VERY R, n/t

[sarge43]

3. Now, now Atman. You'll just make them cry.

Cowards and bullies do that when they're called out.

[dgibby]

4. TEA PARTY TERRORISTS: They're not trying to help the economy.

They're deliberately trying to destroy it and the govt.

[Plucketeer]

55. Our feelings EXACTLY

What default will do to this nation will be FAR MORE damaging than two small airliners plunging into the twin towers. 3000 deaths will pale compared to the long-term carnage inflicted by the stupidity of this showdown. As for your stupid "party", remember that "you reap what you sow". (Look that phrase up if it's never come to your ears before)

[pansypoo53219]

58. TRAITORS

roll out SEDITION.

[Chimichurri]

5. Yes. I would like an answer to that as well.

[pinboy3niner]

6. What they pay me to be a mole here is peanuts

But they could up it to brazillions, and I sill got nothin'. When you're right, you're right. :cry:


:)

[DeadEyeDyck]

72. I'm sorry but that comment left tears in my eyes. I wish I could send

you some $$$.

[Speck Tater]

7. I'm sure that will get them to change their minds. NOT.

If they could be swayed by reason, rationality or reality they would have come around long ago. Face it, they are beyond redemption. They are the terminally stupid subspecies of human that will probably contribute to the downfall not just of the U.S., but of the whole human race.

[louslobbs]

47. Thank you Speck Tater you saved me some typing.

Exactly what he said ++++++ and exactly how he said it.
Lou

[awoke_in_2003]

76. and stupid breeds faster. nt

[Nay]

95. Yep. THE STUPID kills. And this country is about to get a taste of that. A

whole potful of that, I'd say. Unfortunately, the rest of us get to suffer along with the morons. You know, maybe it's a good thing. From what I've seen over the 60 years of my life, I can't say the human race deserves to survive.

[Evasporque]

8. kick for tea party drolling morons...nt

[butterfly77]

9. Kicked&Recommended...

they started early this morning with their unrecommends.

[arbusto_baboso]

10. They don't care.

They honestly believe that in the New Regime, they will be the favored foot soldiers.

Little do they realize they will simply be more economic cannon fodder.

They're even dumber than you imagine.

[Poll_Blind]

40. +1

PB

[Blue Owl]

11. You are doing the white collar criminal's dirty work.

Unbeknownst to your freeper-addled minds.

[jorno67]

12. fuck yeah!

[lonestarnot]

13. And don't forget the complimentary DU fuck you! You country ruiners.

[flamingdem]

14. You teaparty FREAKS need to be taught a lesson, we need to remove every one of you ASAP nt

[Solomon]

15. I thought that his point about defaulting being the equivalent

of a tax increase because the interest rates will go up really hit it out of the park.

[Buns_of_Fire]

16. It was rational, well-reasoned, and correct. Therefore, it will have no effect on the teabaggers.

They think they're on a Mission from God or something. But they're not stupid -- they're FUCKING stupid.

Ignorance you can fix. Stupidity is forever. And I've flat run out of patience with it.:mad:

[MadMaddie]

19. For us the explanation is understandable for the uninformed

Teabaggers it's to complicated and reasoned.

[Silent3]

17. Not that the teabaggers aren't much, MUCH worse, but...

...not too long ago DU was filled with people screaming "Let it burn! Let it all burn down!" in their outrage against the TARP bailout.

They either...

1) Refused to believe the banking/credit crisis was a real crisis, quite sure of themselves that the crisis was just a ploy, a means to an end -- very much the same way many teabaggers are ignorantly confident that the US defaulting on its debts isn't a real problem. Or...

2) They didn't really care what harm would be caused if the economy collapsed, deciding that "doing the right thing" (in their not-so-humble-opinions about what's right) was much more important, and that it was better to let everything go to hell and rebuild from the ashes.

The big difference between the left and the right here is that when the left was going crazy with the "Let it all burn down!" attitude, it was just a noisy but fairly powerless part of the left. The right's current craziness, however, has gone main stream and hold plenty of seats in Congress.

[Ruby the Liberal]

29. I think the anger was about the 'no strings attached approach'.

No one regulated wall street. In fact, they are doing the same old shit at the same levels of leverage today.

No one broke up the 'too big to fail'. In fact, they all just merged and got even bigger (Wells/Wachovia, BoA/Merrill Lynch, MorganStanley/SmithBarney, etc, etc, etc)

No one has said boo about the side bets known as CDOs and derivatives. In fact, that market is even BIGGER today than in 2008.

I wasn't against it to float the economy, but you are damn sure that I was one that said "let them fail" without reform.

[Silent3]

37. That doesn't change the fact that there was a lot of unhinged...

...free-floating damn-the-consequences anger, people who would have been happy for millions of people to suffer so long as the bastards at the top suffered too.

I like what Barney Frank has to say about this. People quite often accept the idea of "collateral damage" in war, that innocents will be hurt, but that a greater good excuses that harm, yet strangely people have a harder time accepting "collateral benefit", the idea of people who don't deserve a benefit getting a huge benefit in the process of doing modest good for a lot more people.

[Wednesdays]

52. But, is it really "either...or"?

Could not the greedy bastards be punished, and the money used to help the common people?
:shrug:

[Silent3]

65. Certainly, I wish that had happened too...

...but that it didn't happen was never a good reason to be cheering on economic collapse, which some people did do.

[Amonester]

69. Sorry.

You answered my question in your previous reply up here (i.e. you do differentiate between the stupid teabagsteR$ holding the entire country hostage for growing their own corrupt ego, and the "right-on" rants about the crooks being bailed-out with the people's taxes).

[LaurenG]

91. WE aren't talking about DUers now, we are talking about teabaggers

People say lots a stupid stuff when they're angry but then they get over it. The difference is that the baggers are not getting over it, this is their normal state of mind. They are stupid and in their stupidity are dangerous to the rest of the world.

[Progressive dog]

103. Agree TEABAGGERS ARE EVIL

Not only stupid but evil.
"People say lots a stupid stuff when they're angry but then they get over it. The difference is that the baggers are not getting over it, this is their normal state of mind. They are stupid and in their stupidity are dangerous to the rest of the world."

[LaurenG]

106. I don't know about evil. Evil would take some thinking and I don't think they're

capable of thinking. They can repeat what they're told but never question their overlords. They have all taken the blue pill, safe in their little world believing what they're told...



"This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes."

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/quotes

[klook]

50. Precisely.

I'm still pissed that we extracted nothing from the marauding bandits we bailed out.

[Silent3]

67. I'm pissed about that too.

That doesn't change the fact that some people literally did not care if millions would suffer so long as the wrong people didn't benefit.

[joshcryer]

84. So wait, you want strings attached to a debt ceiling raise?

BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE TEABAGGERS WANT.

[KansDem]

94. Agreed -- Capitalism died with TARP

I don't know what economic system we have now, but it isn't "capitalism."

And the criminals got away...with bonuses!

[Atman]

18. No response from the mole-men yet.

I've been in a back-and-forth with a guy on FB, spouting the same shit. "We just need to stop SPENDING!" I explained that the debt ceiling wasn't about spending, rather, it was about paying bills we've already rung up. Didn't matter. His response was "Yes, but we have to stop sometime, otherwise they just keep spending!" There is no logic involved whatsoever. It is truly bizarro-world on the Tea Bagger side of the aisle, and they're sucking the Republicans into their black hole of stupid.

.

[w8liftinglady]

21. nah, the cowards just "un-rec"

[Maru Kitteh]

20. K AND R!

[AlinPA]

22. I personally know a lot of teabaggers (more than several dozen) and they really are stupid

people. Every one is bigoted. Most are fundamentalist "Christians".

[Populist_Prole]

73. I know many too, and see the same thing.

Another thing is, that every damned one I know is a confrontational hothead by nature. Always pumped up and looking for a fight, and they've become a helluva lot worse since Obama got elected.

[Raschel]

23. I agree & I thought they wanted their country back. Wouldn't that include raising the debt ceiling?

Business as usual? I guess not.

[awoke_in_2003]

77. "wanted their country back:...

that is a dog whistle that means "I want black folks to stay in their place- not the White House".

on edit: changed "there" to "their". Damn- I hate it when I do that.

[pacalo]

24. "Cave dwellers", as in those living under rocks & can't seem to grasp the concept of "tolerance"?

[Ohio Joe]

25. Yup, stupid douchebags

Every last one of them.

[Urban Prairie]

26. In Jesus all things are possible, for those who believe..

There are more than a few freepers, baggers, and dwellers, who have absolutely no problems with, nor will have any regrets IF the Teathugs drive the nation off the proverbial economic/fiscal cliff, especially IF doing so will hopefully accelerate the inevitably coming day(s) of their being raptured, b/c they and ONLY they piously represent all of what is pure and moral and honest and saintly, and good in the world, all others are obviously the evil spawn of or worship Satan, and are condemned to remain earthbound until the biblical prophesy in the Book of Revelations is fulfilled, and Judgement Day ensues.

[WinkyDink]

28. They "believe in Jesus" like I believe in the numeric value of pi: Don't think about it much.

[rhiannon55]

32. Wow. That is one long scary sentence.

And it's true. They can't wait for the collapse of civilization so they can fly like little birdies to their imaginary reward in the clouds. Fuck the rest of us. We're just fodder for their moronic delusions.

[awoke_in_2003]

78. part of me wishes I believed in god...

and the rapture- let it happen and get rid of the riff raff :)

[WinkyDink]

27. Trying to destroy, in this order: Democratic principles; Democratic voter base; Democratic Party;

Obama.

[eridani]

30. I don't agree. What they are is pig ignorant and proud of it, a very different thing

Stupidity is an accident of birth, but ignorance is a deliberate choise.

They are also amoral sociopaths.

[NICO9000]

46. Yup - always wrong, but never in doubt

I've never in my lifetime seen so many people be so proud of being dumber than a bag of hammers.

[awoke_in_2003]

79. hammers are useful...

they are more like football bats.

[PA Democrat]

31. Additionally, what do the morons think will happen if they get the drastic spending cuts

that they are drooling over? I am mad as hell that economic morons are driving the bus right off the cliff with the rest of us trapped inside.

[santamargarita]

33. You ignorant, servile scum! The real American people laugh...

at your teabagger stupidity!

[DearAbby]

34. Ahhhhhhhh Jesus...

don't track those bastids over here, I just cleaned the floors. You wanna play with trash, do it outside, not on my clean floors!!!

[babsbunny]

35. I like that!

[Mosaic]

36. It's racism

They hate anyone who isn't a freaking clone of themselves. Many blogs know that, no one in DC or corp media dare speak it, at least not now.

[seabeyond]

38. really, i am telling you. they think cave dweller is a compliment. nt

[malaise]

39. K & R

for the truth

[myrna minx]

41. K&R n/t

[stklurker]

42. ?

I am not your lurking freeper. But I don't get the analogy... We aren't paying the bill, we are trying to up our credit limit....

[Wednesdays]

53. Want somebody to pay the bill?

Then ya gotta fucking get after the ones who CAN pay the bill!

Gee, I wonder who that might be?

[stklurker]

75. Bill

I am all for repealing bush tax cuts, but the problem is much bigger than that now. Both sides pillaged SS a d medicare can't sustain against current healthcare costs, and our energy policy equates to blowing Arab sheiks. But that isn't what the op is about. The op said paying the bills, but the debt ceiling discussion is about upping the credit limit. Rage on if you wish, but we are in a tough fucking spot all around and all i see frankly is both sides posturing at the moment and avoiding the real issues, which are going to really freaking hurt.

[newspeak]

60. well, I see how worried the repugs were

when Little Boots increased the deficit by 89%, while giving war profiteering corporations huge amounts of our money fighting a fabricated war in Iraq for the global oil boys. And Reagan, that's THE GOD REAGAN, increased the deficit by 128%.

It seems the repugs are really worried that some poor person, elderly or sick might get some help from the damn government on the backs of the deserving rich who shouldn't have to pay taxes because they're so special. Big businesses who take their money overseas instead of creating jobs here still get tax breaks-the wealthy and corporations use much more of the infrastructure, our resources (usually pay little to nothing while we have to pay the clean up) and we protect their business' interests with our lives and taxes and did I mention the subsidies they receive?

You people getting tired of being trickled on yet? Or you just love your corporate masters? Because the wealth disparity in this country has increased to portions not seen since before the great depression, but ya'll still do your master's bidding. All they got to do is mention abortion, homosexuals or immigrants, and they've got your ignorant arse.

Economists that I hold in esteem'; Krugman, Stiglitz, Galbraith, have all said that we need a major job creations bill to get this country moving and that takes money. You got to spend money to make money. We also need to have reasonable taxation for the health and well being for ALL americans. What the repug plan does is take away even more jobs-hundreds of thousands of jobs, while sellling us to the highest global corporate bidder. They'd sell off this country in a heartbeat-our national treasures, every damn one sold to corporations-they'd privatize the shite out of everything and we, the american people, will be paying more, not less while getting shittier service. A corporation's only goal is to make profit-they could give a damn who they are hurting as long as they make a profit-and that is what the repugs want, a truly captive consumer. And if that happens, americans will no longer have any voice, only corporations will have all power-and they are not AMERICAN!

[Beartracks]

43. Tell me again, teapeople, how destroying the economy creates jobs?

Just curious.

=============================

[SHRED]

44. It's much more than about Obama

These teabag freaks are steeped in the brainwashing that government is bad...must destroy government.

They are products of years of AM talk radio and FOX.

---

[oldhippydude]

48. i kid of wonder

i remember the phrase years ago "jump starting the Apocalypse".. every one of those folks i know. is into that left behind crap...we are just collateral damage so they can be raptured.. after all when your God's folks, its no biggie

[lpbk2713]

45. It's true. They are indeed quite stupid.

And they will be quite proud of themselves if everything should grind to a halt.
As if things are not bad enough already.

[cabot]

49. amen n/t

[klook]

51. Very smart analogy

Some of them might even understand it.

[Stinky The Clown]

54. Careful. frankie the wanker will make fun of you

And his merry band of mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, low brow wankers will all jump in with puerile, sycophantic quips.

I'm amazed at how little it takes to amuse even those small minds.

[Veracious]

56. The "Tea LOL Party" GOING DOWN HARD!

I can not wait until we crush these punks in the next election.:headbang:

[Pisces]

57. The usual suspects haven't posted. These moles/trolls just like to stir shit and bash Obama.

[Jim_Shorts]

59. Teabaggers main talking point is a lie, S&P cooking the books

Jane Hamsher has a must read article

some snip-its: On July 21, 2010 President Obama signs Dodd-Frank into law. The Dodd-Frank Financial Reform Act stripped away those protections, so that CRA’s were now subject to the same expert liability as an auditor or securities analyst,

In October 2010, S&P issues its first threat to downgrade US debt. The report paints a target on the back of Social Security and Medicare, says nothing about the wars, the Bush tax cuts, private health care costs or the absurdity of 40 year projections.

on April 13: A bipartisan study on the financial crisis from the Coburn-Levin Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations released a report saying the credit ratings agencies were a “key cause” of the financial crisis. Two days later, David Beers reached out to Undersecretary Goldstein to let Treasury know that the Standard and Poors committee has changed its outlook to “negative.”

(sorry for the copy/paste but this may show that S&P is in bed with repugs)

Link: http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/07/29-12

[aintitfunny]

61. Stupid, stupid, stupid teahadists.

Stupid.

[libmom74]

62. Unfortunately you can't reason

with the willfully ignorant.

[Homer12]

63. I think they are all traitors

n/t

[delunapark]

64. Recommend

:kick:

[Stuart G]

66. They are here all right...someone posted crap about a flat tax.

..What kind of crap is a flat tax? like a sales tax..
oh it would be fair. 15 percent for wealthy..freeper, jerk.
that is what I believe.

[krispos42]

83. I'd like to see a flat tax

of 70%. With a $75,000 standard deduction, $150,000 for married.

;-)

[Beavker]

68. Yep, Obama is almost a left leaning Republican

He's handed these guys things they never should have. He extended the tax cuts, passed a once Republican health plan, extended the wars even after getting #1, even weakened gun laws...but these scumbags and their minions are so blinded by their racism they can't even see it.

[naaman fletcher]

70. You are, in fact, wrong.

Let's say you have a balance of 10K on your credit card at 9.9%. You don't pay, and the default rate kicks in, and you are now paying 30% on that 10,000.

In the case of the US, if we defaulted, we would have to pay higher interest rates on NEW borrowings, but not on the existing date.

/just sayin.

/no, I don't think the country can survive borrowing more and more and more every year.
//not saying we need a balanced budget tomorrow, but within 5 years. raise taxes, cut military in half for starters.

[liberal_mama]

71. If tea party traitors destroy our country

They need to be thrown out of America or jailed.

[Lucky Luciano]

74. Yep. No other explanations exist. Not even Clinton got this treatment and they were brutal to him.

[rationalcalgarian]

80. Yes, but....

Bill Clinton was white.

If the current president was white, the Teabaggers would never have come into existence. The Republicans would not be behaving this way. If the president was a white man, there would be negotiation and compromise and, perhaps, an honest attempt to right the economy.
But no.

The Teabaggers and Republicans have demonstrated that they prefer an alcoholic cocaine freak of limited intellect over an educated and eloquent man of obvious moral integrity. The difference? The coke-head is white. The good man is black.

That is the bottom line, the explanation for the lunacy of the right wing. The president is black. And he is smarter than they are. And they can't stand it. The racism is so ingrained in the right wing that they will destroy the nation before they will allow a black man to be successful. Civilized nations around the world measure their leaders by their ability to contribute but only the United States includes skin color as a prerequisite. Of course, the USA is the only country in the world that still uses feet/inches, ounces/pounds etc. (Yes, I know... there are two other world powers that still use that antiquated system... Burma and Liberia. Burma... Liberia... and the USA! Hang in there, brothers! Eventually, we the rest of the world, will realize the error of our ways and return to feet and inches, the way Jesus intended!)

When one finally comes to the realization that the right wing's destructive behavior stems from the color of the president's skin, the more sense it makes. The Republicans and Teabaggers are racist even though they deny it the way a Southern Baptist preacher denies being a gay whore-monger sniffing meth off a Brazilian boy's hot butt. But that is their reason for being. And anyone who supports their policies, ideas or even their very existence is a racist traitor.

[Mimosa]

82. I believe you're right.

The hatred of Clinton was intense. But no racism to it.

[winston65]

92. Can I get an AMEN?

This is some truth. If you don't think so and you can stomach it, skip on over to Fox Nation and have all doubt removed. It is nearly impossible to believe these people are Americans. To them mouth breathing knuckle dragging is a high compliment. A disgrace that in the 21st century the country is being held hostage by such human filth.

[Aristus]

81. Kiss my ass, 'baggers!

LIBERAL TILL I DIE, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

(And you're lucky the "middle finger" emoticon was abolished...) ;-)

[BrightSideOfLife]

85. You don't mean that Teabaggers are MORANS, do you?

[Kalidurga]

86. Love the title so apt...

I have never seen anything like this in my life. The baggers scare the daylights out of me. I am not an alarmist, yet I am alarmed at what they are willing to do to protect the rich, they are gambling our savings and everything we have worked for our whole lives. I can't tell you how tired I am of them bashing the poor. Nearly everyone I know is poor and has two jobs.

[Rex]

87. And it seems they take pride in that willful ignorance.

They seem to LOVE it when their leaders show their inability to think! Take pride in not being 'smart' like those 'other folks'. They somehow believe they can 'live off the land' (Red Dawn-like) when 'The Man' blows his wad and the shit truly hits the fan. When you try and discuss things like BILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars...you get this look of 'eyes grazed over' incomprehension, it is not that they don't understand - it is just that they don't really give a shit.

Or am I wrong lurkers?

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[lebkuchen]

89. I see the teabaggers as having made another attack on Fort Sumter

It's fighting the Civil War all over again, but with even great numbers of Americans put at risk, not to mention the global market.

[Enthusiast]

90. Stupid enough to believe that a

Wall Street president is a Marxist.

[KansDem]

93. TeaBaggers and Freepers don't like black men in white houses...nt

[McCamy Taylor]

96. Divide and conquer pits working class against working class----to the enrichment of the owners.

Black vs. white.

Women vs men.

Native born vs. immigrant.

And now old vs. young.

Whenever we fight among ourselves, corporate America laughs. The dupes who think that the Koch Brothers "like" them better than Black folks are so delusional that it makes me want to cry. If given the choice between a member of a minority group with millions and "Joe the Plumber", I know which the Koch Brothers would support. The rich are color blind except for the color green as in money.

[Yon_Yonson]

97. They lost their heads when confronted with reality

:wtf:

[ileus]

98. Preach it my brother/sister

[JDPriestly]

99. Excellent post!!!

[certainot]

100. limbaugh and hannity hammered it for months that it was no big deal and the left ignored it

they create their own reality - and can do it because the left ignores them - 1000 stations reaching 50 mil a week is huge

[B Calm]

101. Hey lurkers, FREEDOM ISN'T FREE, SO QUIT WHINING AND PAY YOUR TAXES!

[swilton]

102. The tea baggers are not the ones selling us out

We have our own party leaders who cave and enable...With strong backbone from the Democratic Party, this group would have been neutralized months ago.

[mojah]

104. It's True

It's sicking they keep moving to the right then the right moves the goal post even more right.
What would FDR say? This president is disappointing to say the least. I work with a lot
of teabaggers and they are not stupid one is actually in MENSA, racist and brainwashed is more like it.

[Urban Prairie]

105. Devil's Advocate (1997) Prophetic?

You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire; you build egos the size of cathedrals; fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse; grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, gold-plated fantasies, until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own God... and where can you go from there?

A: Credit Default swaps leading to: Too big to fail

And as we're straddling from one deal to the next, who's got his eye on the planet, *as the air thickens, **the water sours, and ***even the bees' honey takes on the metallic taste of radioactivity? And it just keeps coming, faster and faster. ****There's no chance to think, to prepare; it's buy futures, sell futures, *****when there is no future.


*Climate change

**BP Oil spill

***Fukushima

****Debt Ceiling crisis

*****Default?

[grimaldi]

107. Double post N/T

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[Rex]

109. In the history of the debt ceiling, how many times did SSI

become an integral part of passage of bills in reference to the debt ceiling? None. Also your argument that Rome fell because of a welfare state is sad, you are certainly misinformed about SSI and the way governing works at large. I would suggest go read Wealth of Nations and come back to have a more educated debate. GLHF.

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[Rex]

112. Wrong, they are irrelevant to you because of the inconvenience.

People didn't complain when it went up 7 times under GWB nor the other 60 plus times it was raised. You have no argument whatsoever.

[treestar]

111. Exactly. They went on about our grandchildren going into debt

as they whined about the stimulus. Now we see that was insincere.